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Should kids go on holiday abroad every year?

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TillyTooms · 27/04/2024 19:21

To grow up well rounded or is it just a nice luxury to have?

Before having kids I imagined we'd be jetting off every year like I did pre kids however having a neurodivergent child has meant I'm not able to work as much as I could previously and our income has seen a reduction.

We have a comfortable income and can do days out and pay for my daughter's hobbies but not enough to jet away every year.

I know this sounds like a stupid question but I just feel like I've let them down somehow.

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JadeSheep · 27/04/2024 22:39

First time I went abroad I was 23.....Do you think I'm ill adjusted? 🙄

Crazycatlady79 · 27/04/2024 22:38

Of course it's s fucking luxury.

My twins and I have never had an holiday, never mind an abroad jaunt.

Some people are so blinkered, it's unreal...🤦🏼‍♀️

Bigcoatweather · 27/04/2024 22:35

We’ve generally gone abroad once or twice every year and I’ve grown to the realisation that I hate the faff - I was doing something I felt I was expected to do. Hate airports, don’t like flying, lose all benefit of the holidays on the journey back home. Just had a long weekend in the UK with the teens and it was soooo much more relaxing. Also, I want to reduce our carbon footprint, so I’m thinking of once every two/three years and no long hauls ever again.

I do think it’s important to see some of the world outside of your own country, but I fell into the trap of thinking it was necessary every year - it’s really not.

SapphireOpal · 27/04/2024 22:26

Does your DC even want to go abroad?

I'm ND and I hate it.

SmallFY · 27/04/2024 22:25

I will add that abroad absolutely not necessary for well rounded. Totally a huge luxury.

But.

I do think that to be rounded you need to experience different places and things.

Be that beach, forests, hills, built up areas, types of music, food, languages.

With the UK being small we're hugely lucky to be able to access these easily.

I'd never assume a child who hadn't left the UK wasn't well rounded or experienced.

However I have a colleague, who despite living less than an hour from London have never been. They shop in the town they live in. Holiday at the same family caravan each year. That's their entire experience of the world.

For the adults that's their decision to make. But I do feel their kids are at a disadvantage.

GingerScallop · 27/04/2024 22:24

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 27/04/2024 19:50

how do holidays ensure someone is well rounded?

No one thing ensures someone is well rounded. It's lots of things. That's pretty much the definition of being well rounded! Having direct experience of other countries and cultures is one small aspect of being well rounded.

that was exactly my point. Among those things are parenting, community and good luck.

portaide · 27/04/2024 22:10

@MyFirstLittlePony it really isn't. No one asks for those things in particular but if you're going to land a job at a top international firm the experiences and skills that being 'well rounded' bring absolutely DO matter. If you've never left dull-on-sea but have a raft of top grades no one cares. You'll fall down at the interview.

Babaero · 27/04/2024 22:10

I don’t really think where you holiday has any bearing on how well rounded you end up!

WhamBamThankU · 27/04/2024 22:09

I think it's a luxury unless you have family abroad. My parents/then solo mum took us abroad every year, sometimes twice until I was 16. Then I didn't go abroad again until I was 30! My kids have had plenty of UK holidays and are about to go abroad for the second time. I don't feel like they've missed out as England has some beautiful places.

Tbry24 · 27/04/2024 22:08

I went on one foreign holiday with my family as a child, one school trip to Europe and I have been abroad to Europe once as an adult for a weekend. I’m in my 50’s.

I couldn’t even afford holidays in the UK with my child. He’s in his 30’s he’s been abroad three times once to France with a relation, once was a European school trip and once to Spain with a friend and their family.

Myself and my DP won’t be having any holiday this year even in the UK as we have mortgage and bills to pay.

Dbirk · 27/04/2024 22:05

The uk has roughly the GDP of Texas....travelling within a tiny nation really isn't going to give kids the international advantage they need. They need to b navigate timezones, food, language, culture etc in order to have a career in an international company. There are precious few UK only jobs that's make 1% money.

MyFirstLittlePony · 27/04/2024 22:04

"Well rounded" is a middle class myth where middle class parents tell themselves this is an important thing (that can be achieved through money)

Same with DoE or playing an instrument or going on an (expensive) volunteering project abroad (helping the disadvantaged in the U.K. is not glam enough)

All these things are really just signifiers of middle class ness and to root out kids who don't fit that mould

The funny thing is though that in the world of work having been on holidays as lot, playing an instrument and having done DOE counts for nothing and nobody cares

So go on holidays abroad if you like, but don't worry if you can't or don't want to Smile

moderndilemma · 27/04/2024 21:57

You could go 'abroad'. UK airport, resort that has Irish pubs, english breakfasts. You could return having experienced nothing. But maybe with a suntan.

Or you could explore our own country. You might find ancient castles, unusal foods.

berksandbeyond · 27/04/2024 21:25

LittleGlowingOblong · 27/04/2024 21:22

I actually think it’s nice to give your kids a really rich and densely-layered knowledge of their own country, and leave them the joy of stretching their wings further afield when their older.

I have a friend who’s taken her primary school aged kids to Vietnam, Jordan, Kenta, etc, and I can’t help wondering what those kids will do when they reach the age to seek their own adventures.

This may come as some surprise to you, but you can visit places twice

Sour grapes

LittleGlowingOblong · 27/04/2024 21:22

I actually think it’s nice to give your kids a really rich and densely-layered knowledge of their own country, and leave them the joy of stretching their wings further afield when their older.

I have a friend who’s taken her primary school aged kids to Vietnam, Jordan, Kenta, etc, and I can’t help wondering what those kids will do when they reach the age to seek their own adventures.

Zanatdy · 27/04/2024 21:15

No, mine have been on some great holidays abroad and travelled to see their dad in Asia when he was working there, but they definitely haven’t gone every year

LiterallyOnFire · 27/04/2024 21:14

TillyTooms · 27/04/2024 20:42

Thank you for all the kind comments.

I've been thinking about why I feel like this and definitely will mention it in my next therapy session but I think for me the time I went away with my grandma was a pleasant memory as home wasn't secure so to answer my own question even going away doesn't mean your a well rounded individual.

I'm just trying the best for my children but I like to think their home life is better for them than it was for me and they don't need the escape the same.

But I like the idea of saving for a bigger trip when DD is older (not sure DS could go) and I'm going to look at holidays in the UK and see what we fancy - my children are only young yet anyway so everything's new to them and hopefully they enjoy just spending time together.

Holidays are great when you can afford them and have time and energy to arrange them well.

They're not necessary and they don't always have to be overseas even when you take them every year.

Definitely one to challenge in your own head, if you're struggling.

PrimalOwl10 · 27/04/2024 21:12

I never went abroad with my parents only my auntie once to Canada to stay with friends and disneyland Paris. We have taken the kids abroad once and going again this year. Many of my friends don't go abroad often certainly not every year.

SeasideIceCream · 27/04/2024 21:11

Experiencing a wide range of new things is important to being well rounded. Travel is a really good way of doing this and does give you experience in some life skills like getting on a plane, train, new languages etc. This doesn't have to be abroad all of the time. A child who has been camping in the UK national parks, experienced the free national museums, had trips to the seaside etc is as well rounded if not more than a kid that's been to a TUI all inclusive every year where they're sat by the pool for 7 days.

An annual holiday is good for family bonding and well being. An annual abroad family holiday isn't going to make your child well rounded though

PlantDoctor · 27/04/2024 21:08

I only ever went abroad with school as a kid. My parents didn't have the money to take us. I haven't taken my 4yo abroad yet. Hoping to this year but won't cry if we don't. I grew up well rounded and did a lot of travelling as a young adult. Most younger kids going abroad seem to spend their time in the hotel pool, so not much different to the UK?

LondonFox · 27/04/2024 21:00

I never went to hollidays abroad with my family as they prioritised that we have nice place to live and flat they left to my DSis.
I lived around Europe and have amazing job and nice home. Never regretted how my childhoid was.

Tbh children under certain age do not need hollidays abroad, it is just more stress. After certain age it is nice to have luxury but in no way crucial. Better to save £100 and give them to go on a cheap flight and hostel when they are 18. And for that money you cannot even get to an airport as a family.

Babies just like eating sand and pebbles.
Toddlers love anything inflatable and a new playground.
4-8 is food and maybe new place. It can be camping in a forest 500m away from home.
8-11 is anything with available electricity to charge phone or games and some fun thing like pool, going to new town to buy something etc.
Only in secondary they have social circle aware of amazing holidays and mental capacity to process being imersed in another culture. But it is just nice luxury.
Untill that point they can learn as much from an hour visit to a museum/castle and complimentary meal.

PeloMom · 27/04/2024 20:45

While it’s a luxury I think it’s also quite important if you can afford it . I went abroad for the first time at 13 (I lived in a communist country until I was about 10 and travelling abroad wasn’t really an allowed thing there) and found it life changing. I’ve taken my now 5yr old to multiple countries and after each trip I feel he grows a lot mentally and emotionally; he’s a very adventurous eater, is interested in speaking other languages and trying new things.

TillyTooms · 27/04/2024 20:42

Thank you for all the kind comments.

I've been thinking about why I feel like this and definitely will mention it in my next therapy session but I think for me the time I went away with my grandma was a pleasant memory as home wasn't secure so to answer my own question even going away doesn't mean your a well rounded individual.

I'm just trying the best for my children but I like to think their home life is better for them than it was for me and they don't need the escape the same.

But I like the idea of saving for a bigger trip when DD is older (not sure DS could go) and I'm going to look at holidays in the UK and see what we fancy - my children are only young yet anyway so everything's new to them and hopefully they enjoy just spending time together.

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mrsed1987 · 27/04/2024 20:37

I didn't go abroad until I was 16, it just wasn't the done thing to go abroad!

My 5 year old has already had 2 all-inclusive holidays.

TheNoodlesIncident · 27/04/2024 20:34

Nice to have but not necessary, even holidays in the UK. Young children get benefits from having different fun experiences but you can provide that by going places locally. I remember a colleague with a child talking about "his first holiday". The baby wasn't even one! At that age it's a holiday for the adults, not for the child. It just seemed daft to me. We took our DS to Greece when he was about two, but it was definitely a trip for us - and we weren't sure how well he would travel anyway. Experience builds character but it doesn't have to be abroad.

When DS did the National Curriculum swimming, the swim school teacher told me that about a third of the kids coming to the pool from schools had never been to a swimming pool before, ever. That's a lot of kids who won't be fortunate enough to go on expensive holidays either.

You do what you can for your children and don't waste a moment feeling guilty about what you can't do.

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