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To refuse to up my hours when my children are at school?

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stayasiam · 27/04/2024 10:37

I am a teacher working 0.6 (3 days a week)

DH often works away, and even when he doesn’t leaves at 7 am and back after the children are in bed. He does do what he can but realistically isn’t around much. Obviously this means everything to do with the children and home falls to me. The one bit of respite I’ve had is that during school holidays they are in nursery for a couple of days so every 6/7 weeks or so I get a couple of days to myself. This keeps me fro losing my sanity Smile

Obviously when they’re both at school this will change and I’ll have them in the holidays so AIBU to refuse to up my hours or even ask to to 3 days spread over 4 or 5? I really will value a couple of short days a week to get stuff done and just breathe a bit!

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stayasiam · 27/04/2024 11:15

Thanks - this is making me think staying at three days is definitely the right decision. Five short days would be horrible. And the longer school holidays will be stressful enough!

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ThePure · 27/04/2024 11:13

I'm not a teacher but I did change from working 3 full days to 5 short days when my kids went to school and it was a terrible plan.

Work definitely expanded because if you are there for most of a day no-one realistically covers for you. It was hard to leave on time. I was always late, stressed or in a rush.

The kids frankly did not appreciate it. They were tired after school and it was not quality time. They enjoyed after school club when we switched to that.

I did indeed have no time to myself ever. I was always rushing from work to kids stuff and often working again when they were asleep and doing all the housework at weekends as I had no time in the week.

Tropicalsunshine · 27/04/2024 11:11

When my husband suggested I go full time we had a discussion and I laid out all the stuff I do on my days off. All the washing, shopping, cleaning, life admin etc and I said that he would need to take on half of it and it would have to be done at the weekend. I appreciate this is what lots of people have to do but if you can afford not to it could be better for you both.
If he doesn't 'get it' and fully understand that you work hard - even if it's not all paid work-

  • then that's how resentment builds.
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NorthernDramaLlama · 27/04/2024 11:10

Do NOT spread your hours over 5 days! You’ll feel like you are working full time for .6 pay, seriously! You can’t guarantee what your timetable might look like. At least with 3 full days you know you’re going to have 3 full on days.
When they start school you’ll have 2 days a week to mark, prepare lessons, have play dates, do life admin, chill a bit during term time.
Hopefully your kids will attend a school with wrap around care so they’ll be looked after on those 3 days even with your husband’s long hours.
We always have after school meetings, training, parents eves, etc on Tuesdays so my DC were in afterschool club every Tuesday and their dad picked them up when he finished work / had to finish early to pick them up.
ExDP always thought I had it easy because I was off when the DC were off and used to moan about how I was on holiday. It saved us thousands of pounds me working term time only, but he wouldn’t recognise I was still working - just looking after our children instead of teaching other people's! When he is on annual leave he does naff all with DC.
I used a mixture of free / cheap / reciprocal play date activities to make sure I had some alone time during the holidays. It can be done!

stayasiam · 27/04/2024 11:10

I hope so @AnotherNightAnotherName , but just the same it’s never getting time to myself in any meaningful sense I suppose. Don’t get me wrong, I love them to bits and I wouldn’t be without them and they are actually lovely children but just some time to actually be would be good!

@Marynotsocontrary the primary school they will attend does have wraparound care. I’m possibly willing to collapse one day so working Monday - Thursday with Friday off but still only being three days (so potentially leaving early Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and arriving late Tuesday and Wednesday or any other variation) but having NO time makes me 😭

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AnotherNightAnotherName · 27/04/2024 11:03

When they’re home from school though they will be older and will probably be able to play together / watch TV independently etc, it’s not like toddler years where you have to be glued to them. You don’t need to bath them every day either.
Not saying you would have it easy at all, but just that the evenings after school might be more relaxing than you are imagining.

Or you could be busier if they do extra curricular.

arethereanyleftatall · 27/04/2024 11:07

Op - I thought the same as your husband did op - as soon as my youngest was in reception I organised my work (my job means I can work as little or much as I want) ti work all the time they were in school. It was shit. For everyone. For me cos I was knackered. For my kids cos I was knackered. And for my husband because we then ended up doing all the errands:chores/admin that I would have got done in the week on my days 'off', on the weekend.

As a single parent, and if your kids do extra curricular, and you work all the hours they're in school with marking etc on top if you're a teacher, then you will end up working 7am -10pm straight through every school day. No life.

MistressIggi · 27/04/2024 11:07

stayasiam · 27/04/2024 10:44

I don’t think he’d pressure me to work more hours but he does assume that I’ll work five days a week but shorter days so I can do drop offs and pick ups which seems to me to be the absolute worst of all worlds - all the disadvantages to part time without the tangible benefit of a couple of days off!

This is awful. You expected to bend over backwards to facilitate his working life. What flexibility is he showing?

MultiplaLight · 27/04/2024 11:07

What's your drop off and collecting plan for 3 short days? You may find having 3 days over 4 easier, with a day off at home too.

Fellow teacher here, work FT and do pick ups, H does drop offs. Luckily I have family support so do get some downtime. DH doesn't work long hours either.

Marynotsocontrary · 27/04/2024 11:04

If you stick with the 3 longer days have you a plan to manage school drop-offs and collections?

AnotherNightAnotherName · 27/04/2024 11:03

When they’re home from school though they will be older and will probably be able to play together / watch TV independently etc, it’s not like toddler years where you have to be glued to them. You don’t need to bath them every day either.
Not saying you would have it easy at all, but just that the evenings after school might be more relaxing than you are imagining.

Peonies12 · 27/04/2024 10:59

that doesn’t sound like it’ll work given your DH current work. But do consider if he would like to reduce his own hours, and you work more?

Dippydinosaurus · 27/04/2024 10:57

You can't do shorter days as a teacher not sure how that is an option? When are you going to do your planning - at weekends? So essentially you're working 7 days a week then. I don't think it'll be possible.

I used to be a part time teacher now work full time for the local authority. I have more spare time and more chilled working full time not as a teacher. I can do almost all school picks ups and drop offs. Whereas before I would have to use wraparound as wouldn't leave school until 5ish

TheYearOfSmallThings · 27/04/2024 10:56

YANBU. I work 30 hours (one short day WFH and Friday off) and I will continue to do so while my son is in primary school. My quality of life would be so much worse without that time to myself.

BrutusMcDogface · 27/04/2024 10:55

Yanbu x 100 million!

If finances allow, I strongly recommend you have those two term time days to yourself to catch up with school work/housework and being a human.

theresapossuminthekitchen · 27/04/2024 10:54

Mmmmdanone · 27/04/2024 10:48

Stay as you are then. I don't think the working parent realises how easy the part time one makes their lives.

Absolutely. I’m lucky that my husband very much appreciates how much easier it is when I’m part time, many take it for granted because they just don’t think about any of that stuff at all! My husband did a year or so of being the part time worker finishing early to pick up the kids so he knows what it’s like.

stayasiam · 27/04/2024 10:54

It would be a huge faff but they would try to accommodate it if I asked for it, I know. But it’s a huge PITA and (I know this probably sounds really whiny but …) it would mean NO time whatsoever to myself, like literally none. It would be out of the door to the school run, onto work, same in reverse end of the day, cook dinner, bath and bed, same again tomorrow, all school holidays ….

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arethereanyleftatall · 27/04/2024 10:54

My own experience is that if you want a decent quality of life, you can't work all the hours your children are in school/nursery plus look after them the whole time they're not. You need a break. If you can afford it, keep your break.

Onelifeonly · 27/04/2024 10:53

You are right. A major benefit of working part time is that you get time alone to do whatever, even if its just catching up on chores. I worked 3 days for years. When my children were at part time nursery, I planned those free nursery times with military precision. When they went to school, I made sure that as far as possible, all personal appointments were on my free days, as were all their appointments, so I could take them without needing time off work etc.

DreamyMintFish · 27/04/2024 10:52

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DelurkingAJ · 27/04/2024 10:52

Just be careful that your contract states that you get those periods off. DH does timetabling and he tries but sometimes the sets just don’t work…his school never make guarantees about which periods PT teachers get off (or FT ones for that matter) because year to year A level and GCSE set numbers fluctuate.

BluLagoon · 27/04/2024 10:51

God no, don’t do it! You can always do supply for extra cash if needed.

theresapossuminthekitchen · 27/04/2024 10:51

Kitkatfiend31 · 27/04/2024 10:47

How can you do that as a teacher? School days and meetings are set times?

I think she means e.g. work 0.6 with no lesson 1 and no lesson 5 every day (assuming 25 lessons a week) so she can do pickup and drop off. We had a few part timers do this at my school years ago but it’s not so common now partly, I suspect, because it’s a nightmare for timetabling.

Sorry - cross-posted with the OP!

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