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To refuse to up my hours when my children are at school?

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stayasiam · 27/04/2024 10:37

I am a teacher working 0.6 (3 days a week)

DH often works away, and even when he doesn’t leaves at 7 am and back after the children are in bed. He does do what he can but realistically isn’t around much. Obviously this means everything to do with the children and home falls to me. The one bit of respite I’ve had is that during school holidays they are in nursery for a couple of days so every 6/7 weeks or so I get a couple of days to myself. This keeps me fro losing my sanity Smile

Obviously when they’re both at school this will change and I’ll have them in the holidays so AIBU to refuse to up my hours or even ask to to 3 days spread over 4 or 5? I really will value a couple of short days a week to get stuff done and just breathe a bit!

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SkyBloo · 28/04/2024 10:28

number of parents who work full time and have their children all holidays and have no one else who takes them is probably fairly small.

I disagree with this! Few people can afford to have time not working when children are in school. Its inefficient to have a day off and be paying an arm and leg in childcare other days. I only know one mum who has a day off work when the children are at school, and she earns a lot so brings home more in 4 days than most people do in 5. Most of the part time working mums i know do some combination of 4 or 4.5 days, spread so that they finish early and collect the kids 2 or 3 days, rather than having a full day off to themselves and using childcare other days.

stayasiam · 28/04/2024 10:22

At the moment the children do an activity on Saturday afternoons which is an hour and fifteen minutes to get there so DH gets this slot if you like undisturbed. They also go to church every last Sunday of the month for a family service so he gets a couple of hours then.

I do get more time in a sense as my job obviously has more holidays but this does advantage DH: he’s never going to have to worry about covering this time. I can’t really see the point of making myself stressed to make it ‘fair.’ That’s like waking DH every time the baby wakes - no point to it but fair.’

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Neveralonewithaclone · 28/04/2024 09:50

Work as little as possible, your dh just isn't around.

FleetwoodMacAttack · 28/04/2024 09:44

When does your DH get time to himself? If you step up more hours will he have less pressure on himself financially? As the main (female) breadwinner I am exhausted and would love some time to myself!

eatsleepfarmrepeat · 28/04/2024 09:12

I went up to 4 days after youngest started at preschool and got myself a cleaner four hours a week.

Main motivator for me was I love my job and I wanted a promotion, the cleaner was to counter the fact I used one of my non working days just to clean the house and actually my life has improved significantly now I’m not spending all that time cleaning and also I’m in a work setting earning money!

My Fridays will always be mine, but on the whole, four days is nice.

stayasiam · 28/04/2024 09:09

@anon4net most working parents get no time to themselves

I think they do, actually. Of course some don’t but the number of parents who work full time and have their children all holidays and have no one else who takes them is probably fairly small. I’m not of course claiming non existent but small.

And even if it wasn’t, why (genuinely) would I make my own life more difficult because someone else’s is more difficult? Some people manage without gardens but it doesn’t mean I will live in a property without a garden because it’s possible to raise children without one. OK, bad example but you get my meaning I am sure.

The options are

Work three days spread over five: responsible for all pick ups and drop offs, treated as a FT member of staff on PT pay, and always rushing and stressed.

OR

Work three days spread over three. Kids in wraparound for three days a week. Two days to clean the house, see any friends, get my hair done, exercise, pursue hobbies, read, watch tv. Enjoy life a bit. And … why not Smile

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GerbilsForever24 · 28/04/2024 08:56

I haven't read all the posts but just to ask how exactly your dh plans to step up when you do more hours? With all due respect, you might be enjoying that time alone but I guarantee you are using a lot of it to do things like cleaning, shopping, meal prep just in your own time, without any additional demands on you. Who will be doing all thay once you swap to this mad dash all over all the time?

Never do 3 days over 5 or whatever. It doesn't feel like 3 days and everyone treats tou like a full timer who is leaving early.

MuggleMe · 28/04/2024 08:50

My two are 6 and 10 and I've kept my Fridays. My DH has a chronic health condition that means I'm always the one up with them in the mornings, doing most of the chores. Fridays are my chance to balance that. And I assume as a teacher you'll end up doing prep on your 2 days off. If you don't need the money it's invaluable.

Purpleturtle45 · 28/04/2024 08:44

stayasiam · 27/04/2024 10:37

I am a teacher working 0.6 (3 days a week)

DH often works away, and even when he doesn’t leaves at 7 am and back after the children are in bed. He does do what he can but realistically isn’t around much. Obviously this means everything to do with the children and home falls to me. The one bit of respite I’ve had is that during school holidays they are in nursery for a couple of days so every 6/7 weeks or so I get a couple of days to myself. This keeps me fro losing my sanity Smile

Obviously when they’re both at school this will change and I’ll have them in the holidays so AIBU to refuse to up my hours or even ask to to 3 days spread over 4 or 5? I really will value a couple of short days a week to get stuff done and just breathe a bit!

I am a teacher working 0.6 too with 3 kids who are all now in school. I haven't upped my hours for a few reasons.

-I don't want to pay for childcare before/after school and never be able to pick up and drop off my kids from school.

-Part time gives me flexibility as my HT happily allows me to swap days on occasion where possible so I can attend my children's school events etc.

-It gives me an opportunity to breathe and catch up on things at home.

-It gives me some time to myself which I feel like I need/deserve.

I work in quite a big school so regularly pick up extra days on supply for extra money but this is optional and I only do it when it suits me. If my HT is desperate at short notice she will let me come in 9.15-2.45 so I can till do school run for my kids.

I am not sure how your husband would expect you to still do school runs on any ways you work. Doesn't seem conducive to a teaching job.

anon4net · 27/04/2024 22:06

stayasiam · 27/04/2024 10:54

It would be a huge faff but they would try to accommodate it if I asked for it, I know. But it’s a huge PITA and (I know this probably sounds really whiny but …) it would mean NO time whatsoever to myself, like literally none. It would be out of the door to the school run, onto work, same in reverse end of the day, cook dinner, bath and bed, same again tomorrow, all school holidays ….

@stayasiam most working parents get no time alone. This is everyone I know.

But if you can afford it, then 3 days a week certainly gives you more time alone, time to batch cook, clean, run errands, take dc to appointments etc.

Marblessolveeverything · 27/04/2024 18:14

It sounds like you have managed to identify your needs to be happy and protect your well being.

Genuinely I congratulate you, all around me are people running themselves into the ground, for what?

Life is for living and living as well as possible. I truly believe happy people make better parents and your mindset will rub off on your children, which is a better legacy than a few quid extra in thw bank.

Ohnobackagain · 27/04/2024 17:39

@stayasiam I know you said he does long days but could your DH make changes to do some pick ups some times? Even if you don’t do extra days? And definitely keep your ‘sanity’ days … everyone needs a break!

BorisIsACuntWaffle · 27/04/2024 15:58

Yanbu as you are doing equivalent of full time in any other job during term time.

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ineedtostopbeingdramaticfirst · 27/04/2024 14:41

I would explain that those two days at home are opportunity to spend time doing housework, life admin and work overspill. If you work 5 days you will still need to do those things and won't have time . Your dh would need to do more if you were to work full time.

This isn't about you getting a couple of days off. It's about work life balance for you both. If you have time in the week to do the house stuff it's less you and your dh have to do in a evening

Octavia64 · 27/04/2024 14:15

I have worked 0.6 over 5 days.

As others have said, you get the worst of both worlds.

You get part time pay. People see you are in every day and expect full time work.
As a teacher there is also a lot of marking and preparation on top of that.

I used to get up at 6, do the morning routine with the kids, get them to school, go straight to my school, teach the short day (often no free lessons and only a 20 min break) then leave to go and get the kids. Do extra curriculars, homework dinner bath and bed and then sit down to marking and planning as my DH arrived home.

I also had to mark and plan and the weekend because I couldn't fit it all in in the week. DH said he would step up with cleaning shopping etc but didn't so we got a cleaner.

You can't attend any CPD or meetings unless you arrange childcare and parents evenings are a nightmare.

Everydayimhuffling · 27/04/2024 14:01

OP, I'm about to do what you are describing: stay teaching 3 days or 3 over 4 even though both DCs will be at school. DP is hoping that it'll allow me to not work in the evenings, do some pick ups and drop offs and do some training that will be helpful for future employment. It will hopefully also give me time to work on my health, which I've somewhat neglected since having kids.

3 days over 5 sounds like the worst of all worlds. No extra money, no time to discuss things with colleagues etc, and no time for yourself. Definitely discuss it with him.

MultiplaLight · 27/04/2024 13:50

What is it about then?

Him not wanting you to have any time to yourself?

stayasiam · 27/04/2024 13:49

There’s no need to go FT financially but it isn’t really about the money. I’d be keeping the same hours but spread over five days. I’d have to pay some wraparound fees but then I’d be paying for fuel for five days so balances out really.

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Meadowfinch · 27/04/2024 13:42

I'm a lone mum, work full time, and it can be done. I've been doing it since ds was two without issue. It just takes a fair bit of organising.

I suppose it depends whether your household finances can cope with you working those hours longer term. If they can, then enjoy it. If they can't then you dh needs to get home earlier at least two days a week.

Beautiful3 · 27/04/2024 13:41

I reduced my ft hours to 3 days full days pt. It was great. My friend did 4 shorter days and she was complaining that she never got anytime to herself. 3 days is perfect.

EarthSight · 27/04/2024 13:36

I think spreading your hours out like that, unless you want them, is a mistake. On a surface level, people may know you work reduced hours, but because you're there 5 days a week, you will be seen as full time. There's risk they'll subconsciously expect you be as productive as a full timer. I've also worked part time with days that were spread out during the week, rather than working consecutive days, and it doesn't allow you to switch off in the same way. I felt like I was psychologically at work like full timer, just without the extra pay.

ItsAllMadness24 · 27/04/2024 13:36

Surely there's no need to financially though because when the children start school youl be savings thousands on the childcare youl be paying for two.

WimbyAce · 27/04/2024 13:31

My youngest starts school in Sept and I won't be increasing hours, currently 3 days. I do so much at home and I know this would still fall to me if I increased hours.

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