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buttonchocolate · 26/04/2024 22:28

A male was caught on camera whispering to a small boy and then biting his ear in a potentially sexual way.

The police are now involved too

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Pantaloons99 · 30/04/2024 21:54

I can't believe how ridiculous this is getting. 'Call the Italian Police' and name dropping.

This is how people get lynched, the internet masses get carried away with absolute nonsense.

Butchyrestingface · 30/04/2024 10:30

LakeTiticaca · 27/04/2024 08:33

The footage is pixilated so it's a bit difficult to form an opinion of what actually happened

I saw the non-censored version on a Canadian news site. I thought without pixilation, it certainly looked unusual but not necessarily sexual.

PenelopeTitsdrop1990 · 30/04/2024 10:24

Creepy as hell,and I can't believe some here are excusing that behaviour..I hope you don't have children 🤢😡

The man's behaviour as soon as the child waves is very telling. He looked embarrassed that he had been caught. Vile creep 🤢

AmandaAlli · 30/04/2024 09:26

BringItOnxxx · 29/04/2024 21:23

It could be an uncle from what I can see from facebook. If you Google Matt Wallace on twitter there is more info.

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Matt Wallace is not someone I would trust with the truth, his whole X feed is fake AI photos and theories about Michelle Obama really being a man. When I looked on his account I see that I had him blocked quite a while ago, and I don’t block many people, they generally have to be either abusive or racist. He has reposted the same post about the snooker incident multiple times in a really sensationalist manner, with photos of the child splashed across them.

BringItOnxxx · 30/04/2024 07:54

Longma · 30/04/2024 07:37

I haven't googled but is this name the man you, or twitter, think it is?

If so I am not sure you should be putting names out there, without any evidence. That's how vigilante groups start!

No that's not the man's name. Matt Wallace is on twitter and has been covering the case.

And genuinely I don't think South Yorkshire police would've spent more than two minutes reviewing the footage before deciding it wasn't worth pursuing due to the amount of time required. I hope that the Italian authorities take forward the lead however.

Longma · 30/04/2024 07:39

Seen this is random Twitter bloke's name who is then naming the person he thinks is responsible. I'm not sure it's a good idea to link names in MN tbh.

Longma · 30/04/2024 07:37

I haven't googled but is this name the man you, or twitter, think it is?

If so I am not sure you should be putting names out there, without any evidence. That's how vigilante groups start!

BringItOnxxx · 29/04/2024 21:23

It could be an uncle from what I can see from facebook. If you Google Matt Wallace on twitter there is more info.

Amx · 29/04/2024 21:07

What?? It's not his dad? Who is it to him then?

DrJoanAllenby · 29/04/2024 20:49

The Italian man named doesn't look like the man in the video! 🤷🏼‍♀️

Damnyourheadshoulderskneesandtoes · 29/04/2024 20:46

Saralouhe · 28/04/2024 11:42

I think people saying he knew the camera was there and was pulling silly faces at it before hand as a justification are off.
He may have been stood there so long that he let his mind wander and simply was not thinking about the camera in that moment.
He forgot he was potentially being filmed and behaved in a way that is normal to him and the child reminded him there's a camera there.

When people show you who they are, believe them.

Or he might have enjoyed the risk of possibly being caught on camera. There are some really sick creeps out there. I hope it's nothing.

Janiie · 29/04/2024 20:43

This is awful, the poor boy. If it is just playful or something more to have the young lad's face all over the Internet is massively intrusive and damaging.

Trial by social media. Ugh.

Saralouhe · 29/04/2024 20:41

Longma · 29/04/2024 20:34

The police are already investigating.
They will have access to the same information you have and way more.
If it needed reporting to the Italian authorities they have the means to do this.

It doesn't need random people picking bits from twitter, than may or may not be correct, and emailing random Italian police forces!

That's how the 'don't fuck with cats' killer was found.

Longma · 29/04/2024 20:34

BringItOnxxx · 29/04/2024 09:17

I've seen his name online. It doesn't appear he's the father. He is an Italian man. How do we report this to the Italian police?

The police are already investigating.
They will have access to the same information you have and way more.
If it needed reporting to the Italian authorities they have the means to do this.

It doesn't need random people picking bits from twitter, than may or may not be correct, and emailing random Italian police forces!

Sophds · 29/04/2024 20:20

Should definitely be investigated because it’s weird but I know some continental families have weird little quirks like this. Gut feeling is it’s not paedophilic or abusive but inappropriate, hope I’m correct.

I’ve found response to it quite distressing for a few reasons. 1. It’s fired up the “hang/shoot them all” crowd and from personal experience too many of those types turn out to be simply deflecting. (A friends dad who used to get very vocal about her having marginally older boyfriends - calling them pedos etc - in her teens turned out to be touching her sister for years. Don’t trust these types and never will) 2. Strong emotional reactions tend to keep abuse victims quiet by making them fear the reaction of going public.

Should be investigated. Kids face shouldn’t be plastered everywhere. Saying they should all be shot/killed/seriously injured doesn’t make you a hero in fact you’re contributing to the issue (if you aren’t up to it yourself).

BringItOnxxx · 29/04/2024 11:05

GerminateMyParsnips · 29/04/2024 10:55

The last thing the police (or this case) needs is people sharing names online and going about acting as if they already know what's going on and who these people are. Maybe he's Italian. Maybe he isn't. Online rumours can, and do, get it wrong and whoever out there is sharing names, is being stupid.

We literally JUST had the problem with online vigilante types sharing the wrong name in relation to the male abuser featured in Baby Reindeer and the Chris Jefferies example is valid, I think, because it is about the public deciding they know more than the people investigating and their actions possibly jeapordising any potential future court case.

That's exactly why I haven't named the person identified. However reporting to police (who can do there own checks) is entirely appropriate.

Otherwise why would we have Crimestopppers etc? Makes no sense to say we have information but not going to report it.

GerminateMyParsnips · 29/04/2024 10:55

The last thing the police (or this case) needs is people sharing names online and going about acting as if they already know what's going on and who these people are. Maybe he's Italian. Maybe he isn't. Online rumours can, and do, get it wrong and whoever out there is sharing names, is being stupid.

We literally JUST had the problem with online vigilante types sharing the wrong name in relation to the male abuser featured in Baby Reindeer and the Chris Jefferies example is valid, I think, because it is about the public deciding they know more than the people investigating and their actions possibly jeapordising any potential future court case.

BringItOnxxx · 29/04/2024 10:37

Schoolchoicesucks · 29/04/2024 10:31

I have seen a brief clip of this but won't go looking again. That poor kid.

Either he is being abused by his dad and this will now be investigated and stopped.
Or it was a slightly weird interaction between a father and son, one that to many people looks odd, maybe the kid was uncomfortable with it and now it has been plastered everywhere and all of his friends, their families have seen it and they have to go through trial by twitter as well as a police investigation.

Obviously if it is the first, then I hope the boy will get the support he needs and the man gets the justice he deserves.
But if it's the second then what an ordeal for that family. Obviously this is what I hope is the case.

My husband and kids goof around - piling onto each other on the sofa. The kids instigate this as often as dh. If there were cameras filming a time when dh instigated it would there be demands for police investigations?

Exactly a police investigation is to rule out any wrongdoing. We have to err on the side of caution when it comes to child protection however.

I have reported the information about the man to West Yorkshire Police. Will also follow up with NSPCC and hope they can liaise with authorities in Italy. Apparently some person on line had created a crypto with the info... whatever that means?

Schoolchoicesucks · 29/04/2024 10:31

I have seen a brief clip of this but won't go looking again. That poor kid.

Either he is being abused by his dad and this will now be investigated and stopped.
Or it was a slightly weird interaction between a father and son, one that to many people looks odd, maybe the kid was uncomfortable with it and now it has been plastered everywhere and all of his friends, their families have seen it and they have to go through trial by twitter as well as a police investigation.

Obviously if it is the first, then I hope the boy will get the support he needs and the man gets the justice he deserves.
But if it's the second then what an ordeal for that family. Obviously this is what I hope is the case.

My husband and kids goof around - piling onto each other on the sofa. The kids instigate this as often as dh. If there were cameras filming a time when dh instigated it would there be demands for police investigations?

BringItOnxxx · 29/04/2024 09:59

Willmafrockfit · 29/04/2024 09:55

why is it your business

do what you like but no need to post about it here crazy person

Children's safety is everyone's business. Are you dim?

BringItOnxxx · 29/04/2024 09:56

Willmafrockfit · 29/04/2024 09:55

why is it your business

do what you like but no need to post about it here crazy person

You sound crazy. I'm asking what the most responsible thing to do is.

Willmafrockfit · 29/04/2024 09:55

BringItOnxxx · 29/04/2024 09:55

Why would anyone be against safeguarding a child?

why is it your business

do what you like but no need to post about it here crazy person

BringItOnxxx · 29/04/2024 09:55

Why would anyone be against safeguarding a child?

Willmafrockfit · 29/04/2024 09:54

BringItOnxxx · 29/04/2024 09:42

Are you him?

are you completely crazy
are you in the police force,
just leave it
stop being a vigilante - it is not good behaviour

BringItOnxxx · 29/04/2024 09:52

No I've seen his Facebook and pictures of the boy..they clearly live in Italy.

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