Stop homeschooling your children.

YABU and need to lay off the tiktok mate.

Absolutely this, saw a video of a mum bragging that her children would never do GCSE’s as ‘you don’t need them’. Totally oblivious to all the doors she is closing due to her own hatred of school.
Many homeschoolers do a great job and no disrespect to them,

I really hope I haven't bought books from your 'educational consultancy'

Or for a placement in an appropriate school. I have a colleague who waited 2 years, and the EOTAS funds were ridiculous.

So let’s say you don’t diagnose them. If they can’t cope in school while waiting for an EHCP or a proper diagnosis, what would you do?

I understand what you mean OP. I have no doubt that the majority of those who homeschool do an excellent job. But there is a minority that do it because they can't be bothered to get up for the school run everyday, don't think that their kids should have to follow the school rules, and are teaching their kids to hate school and "the system". It doesn't do the kids any favours in the long run.

Hi OP
just wanted to say I didn’t ‘ love’ diagnosing my child with some thing, their diagnoses broke my heart and they will forever have a different kind of life experience …. Your clearly a rather goady/ nasty person to suggest that people diagnose their children for the sure hell
of it.

My daughters best friend was de-registered at the beginning of year 10 (the first term they went back properly after lockdown)

Her mum has always been very over protective of her, even now at almost 17 she isn't allowed to go anywhere on her own.

She was 'homeschooled' by her mum through her GCSE's. She had hopes of becoming a marine biologist, but the poor girl failed every one of her exams. She's now in college, resitting the core subjects (after failing again just before xmas) and is taking the only course she was allowed to register for.

I feel so sorry for her, especially now my daughter is starting to look at universities..the gap between them has never been so wide and I feel it will take a lot for this girl to get to where she wants to be, especially with her mum holding her back (there's a lot of emotional blackmail going on)

Stop claiming people diagnose their children. Do you have a fucking idea of how long the waiting lists are to get seen, how hard is to get an EHCP to stay in school (I had to appeal with the support of £££ educational lawyers, not everyone has the means though), and what happens to these children while they wait?

Sometimes families just don’t have a choice.

I think it depends. When my kids were young we went to an art group similar to another mentioned on here that had a lot of home ed kids in it. They were young, and were largely "unschooled" for ideological reasons and had never been in nursery/school. Quite a lot of the parents (some added me on FB etc which is how I know) were anti vaxxers and "Freeman of the land" types. Many of the kids did not wear shoes, or would wear inappropriate clothes (eg princess fancy dress costumes for painting), and "their choice was respected".

I suspect this demographic are very different to those who do it due to lack of SEN provision, bullying etc..

I have seen excellent HE, but also awful HE.
Too many families either say they are unschooling without knowing what it means. They say their child is learning English from following recipes when baking and maths from counting out change at the shop. It is fine for 5 year olds, but they talk this way with much older children.

The other common approach is to sign kids up to Oak Academy and leave them to self educate.

For some children it works really well. Others do better in normal schools. Not really any of your business is it?

Far more concerning are the home schoolers who want to keep their children off school so that they can abuse them. Tiny percentage since covid changed things, I am aware, but the lack of checks does mean it stops those children ever becoming independent enough to seek help or feel they can escape.

I think the odd home schooled child who miss spells words is the least of our worries.

Well, I work in a school and I think you're both talking rubbish.

I have multiple advance degrees and I couldn't home educate.
Especially for the primary years. I could do Alevel maths and chemistry no problem! But basic reading, spelling, times tables, no. I don't have the patience.
I've only encountered the bad kind of home education. Those that hate school teaching their kids to hate school.

The reason outcomes of HE children in research are good is that every research study in the UK has been self selecting. So only families with good outcomes take part. The research is meaningless.

Well that was effective goading.

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Your point is pointless because the alternative - school - is SHIT. It isn't fit for purpose. There is no way an unqualified TA shoving on a video on is better than a motivated parent. And that's before you take into consideration the bullying/ gender bollocks/ peer pressure and sheer dullness of the daily routine.

I know a wealthy family whose DC were home schooled until secondary with professional teachers, they are all doing well.

I know another family where the mother had been bullied at school herself, who decided after “doing her own research” (which led her to also refuse childhood vaccinations for them) to home educate and “unschool” them. She finally accepted that it wasn’t working just using an app on her phone for an hour a day. The eldest was more than 2 years behind with their reading and the next eldest has been diagnosed with SEN when they finally started school. We are all hoping that they can catch up and that the toddler will go to school at 4

I think one of the reasons that HE DC's outcomes compare well with those who attend school might be that until the arrival of covid-19, it was mostly the domain those who were very committed to their strand of the concept and who put it into practice with care and attention.

My take on OP is that she is referring to a different tribe' Those who have a looser idea of how much learning is going on, and probably haven't thought about their approach, whether outside input is needed and if so when/what sort. What's not clear to me is whether such people really exist, or if it's just the latest internet illusion.

If it is real, then it's quite possible that those DC will not reach the levels of those whose parents approached the whole shebang with a different ethos.