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To ask how much a head of department earns?

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Weallknowfrogsgo · 26/04/2024 17:56

In a school just in case that wasn’t clear.

dm’s friends daughter just got a role as a head of department in Greater London. Fantastic.

Had one of those convos with dm, you know the kind when the relationship is fractious and toxic and every other comment is a dig lamenting how successful X was v me. I was going to go into teaching but changed my mind. Basis of the dig

i think I’m doing alright, mid 30s earning mid 50s. Out of idle curiosity how much does a head of department earn, google told me about 45k but DM was insistent she was earning around 100k because ‘that’s what head of department earn’

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Weallknowfrogsgo · 26/04/2024 19:19

wellington77 · 26/04/2024 19:16

A head of department does not earn hundred grand even in London, are they working at some top private school?, that’s only where I may happen.

No I think it’s a state school

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wellington77 · 26/04/2024 19:16

A head of department does not earn hundred grand even in London, are they working at some top private school?, that’s only where I may happen.

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Weallknowfrogsgo · 26/04/2024 19:12

Notquitefinishe · 26/04/2024 19:00

It'll be more than £45k if they've been teaching a while because that's just top of the teaching scale - I get that as a classroom teacher. More like £55k I'd say (outside London).

5 years or so? I don’t know if that’s a while or not?

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PrivateSchoolTeacherParent · 26/04/2024 19:04

Well-paying private school here (not London). HoDs are on around £55k-£65k.

Notquitefinishe · 26/04/2024 19:00

It'll be more than £45k if they've been teaching a while because that's just top of the teaching scale - I get that as a classroom teacher. More like £55k I'd say (outside London).

bzarda · 26/04/2024 18:54

Before my baby I was a HOD (not a core subject) in an outer London school earning 58k. Totally depends on the school in my experience. Would be nowhere near 100k though.
As a side note, I wouldn't let what other people earn or comparisons from your mother bother you. Rise above.

BurbageBrook · 26/04/2024 18:45

Usually about £50k for a core subject. It depends on experience and might be slightly less or more depending on your experience.

AppleKatie · 26/04/2024 18:43

I am a HoD in a fancy well paying private school and I do not earn anything like 100k so I’m calling bullshit!

lavenderlou · 26/04/2024 18:40

My DH is a Head of Faculty (step above HoD) in outer London, 20+ years experience and earns about 56k. The pay will vary by school as you will be given a TLR (teaching and learning responsibility) addition to your standard teacher's salary. The amount of the TLR will vary by school and role. Someone in the middle of the main pay scale will also bring home less than someone on the top of the Upper Pay Scale.

Many headteachers don't earn 100k!

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 26/04/2024 18:39

I’m a head of department in a secondary school ( not London) and top of the pay scale.

I earn £52k

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Weallknowfrogsgo · 26/04/2024 18:37

FAAFOMS · 26/04/2024 18:36

I'm on £65K but my first HOD job was when I was a year in to teaching so took me to £35k with inner London weighting

That seems low given the work load

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FAAFOMS · 26/04/2024 18:36

I'm on £65K but my first HOD job was when I was a year in to teaching so took me to £35k with inner London weighting

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Weallknowfrogsgo · 26/04/2024 18:34

OrangeLemonLime24 · 26/04/2024 18:12

UPS 3 (top of ‘normal teacher’ pay band) is £51,179 for a full time teacher in outer London. Top TLR band 1c is £15,690 (so, depending on how school is organised, this is likely to only to be for science, maths and English as they line manage a lot of staff and have the largest number of student outcomes) So, in all likelihood, the most your mum’s friend’s DC is on is £67k PA.

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Would you have to have a lot of experience to be top of the banding for both (sorry if that’s daft it’s just so alien to me) you would in my sector

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Wonkywinky · 26/04/2024 18:32

Variable.
I'd think you were on the right lines.
A headteacher 100k+

QueenofLouisiana · 26/04/2024 18:27

DH was on about £57k as a HOD in a reasonable size secondary. This was for a core subject, not in London.

MigGirl · 26/04/2024 18:23

No way are they on 100k, I mean our executive head is on between 100-120k (only know as that is what they advertised the job as). HOD even with London weighing won't be on that.

avocadotofu · 26/04/2024 18:17

Between £50-75 if she's getting inner London weighting and it's a big school.

SkyBloo · 26/04/2024 18:15

It can be £60k top of scale - some boroughs pay retention amounts on top of normal pay scale.

Crabwoman · 26/04/2024 18:14

A lot of headteachers don't even earn 100k. Maybe in big acadamies.

OrangeLemonLime24 · 26/04/2024 18:12

UPS 3 (top of ‘normal teacher’ pay band) is £51,179 for a full time teacher in outer London. Top TLR band 1c is £15,690 (so, depending on how school is organised, this is likely to only to be for science, maths and English as they line manage a lot of staff and have the largest number of student outcomes) So, in all likelihood, the most your mum’s friend’s DC is on is £67k PA.

loropianalover · 26/04/2024 18:12

I think mum is telling porkies

Comingupriver · 26/04/2024 18:11

Between £50-60k

poorbuthappy · 26/04/2024 18:09

Dh is HOD at city secondary. £54k

idontlikealdi · 26/04/2024 18:07

H is HOD across two departments, he is on c 70 because of TLR and SLT. Academy.

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