Clothing in the gym

I don't have any weird anal porn issues

These are the leggings I mean - you'd have to be living on Mars to not know what I mean

Why should "no one have to avert their gaze"? Isn't averting ones gaze what we usually do all the time? Do we usually go around staring at each other?

You can definitely see people wearing not much clothes and not make it into some weird sexual emergency.

This says much more about matey than about anyone else

Bloody hell, what's he like when he goes to the beach/pool on holiday?

I never see women in skimpy clothes at the David Lloyd where I go. But I barely notice anyone else anyway, I'm too focused on what I'm doing. Maybe he should try that

You'd get that anyway whatever one wears in the gym

I'm on his side. When I last went to a gym I couldn't help but notice a group of 3 women, barely dressed, that decided to invade a group exercise class and take over a corner of the room, because they weren't comfortable working out in the main gym area. I thought to myself that it would make more sense for them to fully dress themselves.

I don't think it's a man/woman thing. No one should have to avert their gaze in public to avoid viewing overt exhibitionism, which is what wearing next to nothing to the gym is. Material also absorbs sweat.

No…. And honestly there is a huge difference between thinking someone is dressed sexually and being sexually aroused by them

I personally don’t want to see girls doing RDLs in tiny scrunch butt shorts

@KreedKafer
What men should NOT be allowed to do is to tell me that I have to modify my clothing to avoid distracting/tempting/bothering them.

Hell yes, KreedKafer 👏
Exactly what I was going to say.

Essentially what this man (and the Op) is saying is:
"I deem this clothing unacceptable and I don't like my thoughts, when I see women wearing these clothes.
Instead of dealing with my own problem, I demand women change what they are wearing"

Fuck that

This is a teeny skip away from "she was asking for it" mentality.

My gym is hot and I run hot. My shorts and sports bra are not a sexual invitation. If men feel they can't help but letch that's their problem, my arse existing is not inherently sexual, not my fault they think it is.

I'm quite capable of observing the extremely fit, attractive men in my gym in no shirt and lycra shorts that allow me to see the outline of their cock without getting the fanny wobbles, not my problem if men can't do the same.

I can see both sides. I follow Joey Swoll on social media and some of the things he posts are pretty bad. Lots of influencers and women who make content for only fans are in the gym acting like it's a strip club. He equally calls out men who are half naked and making content too. There's a woman rubbing herself on a machine on one video and two women groping a man's arse when he's working out so maybe it's not just men who can't control themselves.

I see men perving and women filming content for only fans in my gym, both are as bad as each other and luckily my gym bans people who do both. You should be able to wear whatever you want as a woman but we also have to recognise that there are some women purposely going out of their way to shock people for the views and reactions.

People can look at me in the gym or out running if they want, I don’t really care if that’s all they do.

I'm sorry, but you why are so obsessed with thinking about anal sex and anal porn? You've got some serious issues.

If you can't see scrunch butt leggings without thinking about porn stars taking it up the bumhole, that says a hell of a lot more about you than it does about women who wear the leggings.

Nobody's saying they're 'not allowed' to find us attractive. We're saying that the fact that they find us attractive isn't our problem and that it is not an invitation.

For example, I've got massive knockers. If I go out wearing a fitted vest top, I'm sure there will be certain men who look at me and think 'Cor, massive knockers'. Whatever. Provided they keep that thought to themselves and don't act upon it or share it with me, it's not affecting me or doing anyone any harm. Men are allowed to like boobs.

What men should NOT be allowed to do is to tell me that I have to modify my clothing to avoid distracting/tempting/bothering them.

This really isn't complicated stuff.

Where has anyone said this?

Are you saying men ONLY find women attractive if they aren't wearing many clothes?

Men can look at women in the gym and find them attractive, exactly as they would if they saw women at the beach or in the office or in church. If their mind then goes from "you are good looking" to "I want to bend you over the rower and fuck you" that's on them, as is any feeling of guilt -they can either tell themselves "don't be creepy" or "Well its a normal human reaction, as long as I don't act on it who is it hurting?"

As long as they don't stare or leer at, or worse attempt to engage with women who clearly aren't interested, nobody else knows what someone is thinking so not really sure why that guy is angsting about it so much. He's not saying "their bodies are making me touch them" which would clearly be inappropriate, just "their bodies are making me think things I then feel guilty about thinking"....which is a him issue.

If a man looks briefly at me in the gym I don't know whether he's thinking "fuck she's hideous" "wow she's hot" "I wish she'd hurry up and get off that machine so I can use it" or "what shall I have for tea?" And I don't care.

If you look at photos of Joseph Pilates teaching in the 50s and 60s they're all wearing short-shorts/leotards/tight leggings, it's really not that different from now. The 80s high-cut leotard was basically their scrunch-butt leggings moment. There's nothing new under the sun!

Because a basque and suspenders isn't comfortable to work out in? And also aren't "porn" clothing BTW...

And scunch bum leggings aren't anal porn clothing 🤣

And saying "wear what you want" but also "safe," means you were equating what you wear with how "safe" you are from men... basically victim blaming by saying "wear that and you're unsafe so whatever happens is your own fault"

The clothing seems to invite men to gaze in a sexual manner, which is essentially what pornography does. I understand women want to be comfortable in the gym but the clothing now has literally invites men to engage in sexualized
thoughts.

Tell me you’re a misogynist arsehole who sees women as objects without telling me …

The anorak thing is intended to increase sweating and make the workout more challenging, I think? Personally, the very thought of exercising in an anorak makes me feel slightly queasy because for me being hot and sweaty is the absolute worst part of exercise!

Baseball caps (the clue being in the name) are designed for sport - as well as keeping sun or rain off your face and shade your eyes for outdoor sports, they keeping sweat from running into your eyes and keep hair out of the way, so I don't find it surprising that people wear them to a gym. I don't use a gym, but if I did, I'd probably wear a baseball cap to use a treadmill or an exercise bike.

My god stop saying anus! 🤮🤣

It's giving 'she was asking for it' vibes.

Badly worded but basically some outfits both men and women are attention seeking and all attention isn’t sexually motivated

The internet is full of people barley clothed spread eagled over gym equipment with a camera set up complaining that people look at them

I absolutely disagree with him.

People wear gym wear at the gym - not a surprise.

Gym wear is often (but not always) tight fitting with a high percentage of lycra because you need a wide range of movement to work out properly. This means it shows the contours of the human body.

The human body is something we all have and we can often see it's contours in certain situations - the gym, the swimming pool, the beach.

Just because you can see someone's body outlines, does not mean that they want you to stare at it. It most certainly does not suggest that they are offering themselves up in any sexual way.

Yes people look, that's normal - to stare is not normal and can be challenged.

If this person is so unable to control his own emotions he should use his neck and eyes to look away. If it shocks him so much that he may be unable to control himself or fall into a victorian maiden like faint, then he needs to take steps to help himself.

This counts for all sizes and shapes of bodies - everyone has a choice in what they wear. Of course people will have an opinion on it, whether they like it or not - but their opinions and thoughts would be best staying inside their own heads.

I'll wear what I bloody well like and if some weirdo can't control his thoughts while he's on the treadmill that's very much his problem.

I think the reason some women wear skimpy clothes at the gym is that a) the less fabric, the less sweaty and restricted they feel and b) if you work out seriously and are proud of their efforts, it actually makes you feel good to be able to see your body in the mirror when you're working out. I don't think it's unreasonable for someone who has worked really hard to achieve something to be proud of that.

At times when I've been overweight and unfit hated my body I've always exercised in leggings and a big oversize t-shirt that covers my bum, stomach and upper arms. At times when I've been a healthy weight and physically fit, I've exercised in leggings or shorts and a sports bra/crop top because it makes me feel really fucking happy to be confident about my body and to be able to see it in the mirror without wanting to hide it from the world.

If you think that's intended to attract attention, I'm not sure how you square that with the fact that I do the majority of my workouts at home, in private.

He needs to go to Afghanistan. The men there have found a solution for him.