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Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 07:29

I have repeatedly expressed to my in laws that I’m struggling with my baby. I went about ten months with no break, not even 5 mins to myself. No one babysat or came over and helped with housework etc. I have lost several stone and have problems with my teeth because some days I didn’t get to clean them. I am totally exhausted and mentally broken from lack of sleep and rest.

My MIL is the type to not ask to visit or make the effort to reach out and ask to meet up. She waits for me to do all the initiating. I was annoyed by this because in my mind if you want to see your grandchild you’d make the effort. I had to tell her straight up if she wants to visit just ask! Don’t wait to be asked.

So she started making more effort. She cancelled some times due to her health which was fine, no big deal. I cancelled a few times because my baby was having a bad day or I was feeling low or not up for visitors.

I then had other in laws criticising me saying I am stopping her from seeing her grandchild and excluding her. This baffled me because she has seen baby the most out of everyone and I kept inviting her over.

i felt hurt hearing this as I felt I was being portrayed wrongly. I asked my MIL what the issue was and she said that me cancelling on her is “devastating” and she can’t handle it. She said if I make plans with her in the future I’m not allowed to cancel. I said that’s impossible and I can cancel if I want to. I felt she was being unreasonable but she said she wasn’t.

now I feel I have to 1. Force myself to spend time with someone even if it’s a bad day or I’m exhausted from lack of support and 2. If I don’t make plans with her or I do cancel that she’ll bad mouth me to the rest of the family

this is causing me a lot of stress and arguments with my husband.

so am I being unreasonable to think it’s ok to cancel?

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Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 08:30

Gazelda · 26/04/2024 08:28

Like others, I think you should see your GP about how low you're feeling. See if you can take medication that steadies your mood.

However, you must realise that your DH is a major factor in how you're feeling? He is worse than useless and you are suffering for his inadequacies.

Can you access an employee helpline at work? Is there a way for you to get some counselling to help you see the bigger picture and to consider how you want your future to look?

When you're feeling a little stronger, I think you should tell your DH that he is letting you down. He's letting his child down. He's destroying his marriage. If there is anything decent about him then he'd pull himself together and start behaving like a father and husband. Giving you a break. Appreciating you. Treating you with love and respect.

As for MIL, she has her own problems. She has been let down by her son who has created this distance between her and her GD. But none of that is your doing or your problem. Maybe take a different tack with her and reduce contact. Send her regular pics. If you're going to soft play, message her in the morning and say we're going to be at venue at 11, why doesn't she pop down to see you both and have a coffee. Be more spontaneous with her than scheduled visits.

But most of all, ignore the gossip that the wider family are thoughtlessly spreading. It may be exaggerated from what MIL has said to them. Regardless, she's an ill woman who you have little in common with. If she and her relatives want to slag you off, let them. It makes no useful difference to your life.

Your priority right now is you. You need taking care. Let your GP help you get support.

Unfortunately she doesn’t do spontaneous, other family members have said they think she has undiagnosed autism

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GrumpyPanda · 26/04/2024 08:30

If MIL is too much of a delicate flower to cope with canceled visits then the solution is simple - no more prearranged visits. If you still want to see her, make it strictly on a spontaneous basis only. But I agree with others that your main problem is your useless, selfish dick of a husband.

Gazelda · 26/04/2024 08:28

Like others, I think you should see your GP about how low you're feeling. See if you can take medication that steadies your mood.

However, you must realise that your DH is a major factor in how you're feeling? He is worse than useless and you are suffering for his inadequacies.

Can you access an employee helpline at work? Is there a way for you to get some counselling to help you see the bigger picture and to consider how you want your future to look?

When you're feeling a little stronger, I think you should tell your DH that he is letting you down. He's letting his child down. He's destroying his marriage. If there is anything decent about him then he'd pull himself together and start behaving like a father and husband. Giving you a break. Appreciating you. Treating you with love and respect.

As for MIL, she has her own problems. She has been let down by her son who has created this distance between her and her GD. But none of that is your doing or your problem. Maybe take a different tack with her and reduce contact. Send her regular pics. If you're going to soft play, message her in the morning and say we're going to be at venue at 11, why doesn't she pop down to see you both and have a coffee. Be more spontaneous with her than scheduled visits.

But most of all, ignore the gossip that the wider family are thoughtlessly spreading. It may be exaggerated from what MIL has said to them. Regardless, she's an ill woman who you have little in common with. If she and her relatives want to slag you off, let them. It makes no useful difference to your life.

Your priority right now is you. You need taking care. Let your GP help you get support.

Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 08:27

AnxiousRabbit · 26/04/2024 08:21

OP your other half needs to step up. He should be the one helping with housework and also taking the baby so you get time for self care.
And you need to make sure you look after yourself...brushing your teeth should take priority over tidying up and washing dishes etc.

It's not your MILs job to volunteer to help or come and do your housework.....neither my mum or MIL did this for me.

But also the bad days are the days you need help. It shouldn't matter if you don't feel "up to it" if she comes round she can take baby out in the pram and give you some rest or time to do jobs, she may even help with housework etc.
So be brave and stick to plans even if you feel rubbish.....because at the minute you are burning yourself out trying to achieve an ideal with no support, and then turning away the support unless you have achieved your ideal standard already

I know what you mean, I don’t expect any help though, I only mentioned the lack of help or a break to give context to why I’m so exhausted which is why I cancel.

on hard days I can see what you’re saying about following through with plans, but the issue is my MIL would come over and not speak to me whenever we spent time together. She’d sit in silence and not even say hello how’re you. I’d have to do all the talking. I asked her if I’d done something wrong and she said no. Yeah she’s maybe not very talkative but when I’m feeling low the last thing I want or need is to have a visitor that I need to entertain basically. And imagine this - if she did come when I’m feeling low or upset etc she wouldn’t say anything, she wouldn’t be like are you okay? Do you want a hug? Let’s chat? She just sits in silence, she’ll even answer the phone to say she’s visiting the baby. But won’t say one word to me

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OrangeSlices998 · 26/04/2024 08:27

Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 08:22

Thanks for replying everyone. I know that I need to stop being a martyr. I think my issue is that my baby crying makes me think I’m a failure because I blame myself even though she’s a baby and she’s going to cry that’s how she communicates. I need to look after myself otherwise I can’t be the best mum to her. Because I’m so exhausted and depressed I’m less resilient so having in laws phone me up saying my mil has never seen her grandchild and I’m excluding her is the last thing I need But yeah I shouldn’t care but I find it hard not to. I want to be liked by everyone (which is impossible). I’d have better self esteem if I had a proper rest. When I explained to in laws that I’ve cancelled because I feel low because I’m exhausted from doing everything whilst my husband does nothing they were like oh we get it now, you’re not cancelling to be mean or to purposefully stop her seeing her grandchild.

plus I think MIL wants her son to visit her more so I think blaming me maybe makes it less painful for her instead of thinking her son doesn’t make the effort

It’s not about being a martyr, you’re blaming yourself again. You are being woefully unsupported by the person who should be your best support. That’s the issue here, your pathetic husband. Are you happy? You don’t sound happy. Are you on medication or in a position to take up counselling? Ultimately my gut feeling reading your posts is you’d be happier as a single parent without this manchild doing nothing to support you. Do you have friends or family around?

Motnight · 26/04/2024 08:24

Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 07:38

My husband goes to sports in the evenings

That's your real problem, Op.

Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 08:22

Thanks for replying everyone. I know that I need to stop being a martyr. I think my issue is that my baby crying makes me think I’m a failure because I blame myself even though she’s a baby and she’s going to cry that’s how she communicates. I need to look after myself otherwise I can’t be the best mum to her. Because I’m so exhausted and depressed I’m less resilient so having in laws phone me up saying my mil has never seen her grandchild and I’m excluding her is the last thing I need But yeah I shouldn’t care but I find it hard not to. I want to be liked by everyone (which is impossible). I’d have better self esteem if I had a proper rest. When I explained to in laws that I’ve cancelled because I feel low because I’m exhausted from doing everything whilst my husband does nothing they were like oh we get it now, you’re not cancelling to be mean or to purposefully stop her seeing her grandchild.

plus I think MIL wants her son to visit her more so I think blaming me maybe makes it less painful for her instead of thinking her son doesn’t make the effort

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AnxiousRabbit · 26/04/2024 08:21

OP your other half needs to step up. He should be the one helping with housework and also taking the baby so you get time for self care.
And you need to make sure you look after yourself...brushing your teeth should take priority over tidying up and washing dishes etc.

It's not your MILs job to volunteer to help or come and do your housework.....neither my mum or MIL did this for me.

But also the bad days are the days you need help. It shouldn't matter if you don't feel "up to it" if she comes round she can take baby out in the pram and give you some rest or time to do jobs, she may even help with housework etc.
So be brave and stick to plans even if you feel rubbish.....because at the minute you are burning yourself out trying to achieve an ideal with no support, and then turning away the support unless you have achieved your ideal standard already

Scottishskifun · 26/04/2024 08:20

Oh OP your posts are so sad to read so I'm going to focus on practical help.

1: please seek help from your HV and GP you are not a failure but I think likely to be suffering from Post partum depression

2: Contact homestart or ask your HV if they can refer you. They are a fantastic charity who can help out with children to give you a break

3: stop doing things for your husband he's a adult (although not acting like it) just do stuff for you and baby - he is completely out of order

4: please know you are not a failure what so ever velcro babies are hard (DS1 was one) you are simply doing the things to survive

5: please reach out to someone in RL a friend?

6: you definitely are allowed to cancel if you or baby aren't feeling well enough if his mum starts simply reply with I've said X can arrange and bring baby I'm not responsible for him if he doesn't make the effort.

Calamitousness · 26/04/2024 08:17

Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 07:38

My husband goes to sports in the evenings

So. He needs to stop until you are in a better place with your mental health. You can’t cope. He needs to support you before sport. How is that hard to see. Surely you’ve told him how you feel. He must notice you’re unkempt if you’re not brushing your teeth which is a basic. It’s all signs you’re not mentally well.

Youcannotbeseriousreally · 26/04/2024 08:13

I think there are issues here that are nothing to do with your in laws. You should have been able to brush your teeth. It takes like a minute, I fail to understand why that hasn’t been happening. It’s just a baby. It sounds it me like you might need some medical help to get you onto an even keel. Perhaps make an appointment with your GP. Also, put the baby down somewhere safe and eat and brush your teeth. Everything else will feel more manageable if you actually valued yourself

0verandoveragain · 26/04/2024 08:11

There's a lot going on here OP:

  1. You sound like you could do with a chat with the GP.
  2. Your DH needs to step up.
  3. There's definitely more going on if you didn't have time to brush your teeth and eat, a baby should never stop those things happening.
  4. Cancelling visits because the baby hasn't slept seems really wild to me, you can't live your life by a clock like that.
  5. Cancelling visits because you feel low is a whole different story, but you should really speak to the GP about this.

💐

boyohboys · 26/04/2024 08:10

Seriously OP, what's keeping you together? The more you post the less appealing he sounds. You'll probably find a dark cloud lifts without him in your life.

Hateliars34 · 26/04/2024 08:10

Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 08:07

Yes I am definitely not as he’s shown how useless and selfish he is. I have considered divorce. His mum has depression herself so it’s baffling that she isn’t able to emphathise with how I’m feeling and what I’m going through. Like I think me cancelling has made her sit at home crying and be in hysterics …

You would have more freedom if you divorced as one less person to cook for. And presumably he would take the child some weekends, which would mean you get a break!

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 26/04/2024 08:08

You need to speak to your GP about your physical and mental health.

And you need to stop blaming your MIL for what is obviously (to everyone else) a DH problem.

buidhe · 26/04/2024 08:07

You need to care more about you and less about the complaints of your husband and MIL. She complains about something...not your problem, learn not to be upset by it. She wants to see her grandchild and you will get the treatment you accept from her by being so affected by her moaning. Stop arranging visits and leave it to your husband to do.

Any complaints from him or her, 'I tried, it didn't work out, I'm too busy with work now", and start to get him to take more responsibility. Tell him e.g. Sat morning is his, Sunday is yours to look after baby until 11am so you can get a break. You are both working it's not unfair. You might have to head out of the house and just lie down in the car in a car park but you need to create the habit.

Start advocating for yourself - sounds as though no one else will. And care less about MIL moaniing to others. Complaints from other in-laws - say little maybe just 'there are two sides to every storey and MIL has seen baby more than anyone else so far'.

Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 08:07

Hateliars34 · 26/04/2024 08:02

You poor thing. No wonder you are so exhausted!!

Why does your husband do nothing?? Do you love this man? Please don't have other kids with him as things just get harder.

Agree with others, your MIL is very strange and wrong to badmouth you, but your husband is the real problem here.

Yes I am definitely not as he’s shown how useless and selfish he is. I have considered divorce. His mum has depression herself so it’s baffling that she isn’t able to emphathise with how I’m feeling and what I’m going through. Like I think me cancelling has made her sit at home crying and be in hysterics …

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MotherofChaosandDestruction · 26/04/2024 08:07

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Unless you have lived with someone like this I don't think you can understand how worn down it can make you. You can tell them until the end of time you are struggling and they won't help, what can you actually do but step up and parent. I am lucky I had an amazing support system around me but I was still exhausted and depressed.

OP please see a GP and think about leaving your DP, it won't get better and he'll continue to behave like this. I don't have to deal with my in laws shit anymore and it's bliss.

Hateliars34 · 26/04/2024 08:07

Could you wake up DH tomorrow at 8am, and say I'm leaving for 2 hours. Just leave the baby with him and go out for a nice breakfast on your own.

What happens if you do that? Can you try it?

The baby might cry but will be fine. I have a Velcro baby too and once a month I go on a night out. She cries a lot while I'm gone and often she's still up with my husband when I get home, but it's good for her to spend some one on one time with her dad and she's slowly getting better at going to sleep with him instead of me.

Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 08:04

boyohboys · 26/04/2024 08:02

What would happen if you just plonk baby on your DH at the weekend and tell him you're going out for the day? Not asking but telling him you have plans & just going (like he clearly does all the time without issue!)

I have had to resort to that nowadays. Then my husband complains about how exhausted he is from watching her for like one hour. Plus all the negativity and drama from his family makes me feel too low to even want to do anything

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Moglet4 · 26/04/2024 08:04

Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 07:38

My husband goes to sports in the evenings

There’s your problem right there. She’s his baby too (believe me, I completely get lazy husbands) and it sounds like on top of him not pulling his weight at all you most probably have post partum depression or at least depression brought about by not having enough help post partum!
Step 1: see the GP. Tell your husband you are doing this.
Step 2: Tell husband he gets 2 nights a week for sports. Make sure you get set days. Explain to him you will not take no for an answer, that he needs to start helping out (I hate that term, she’s his child too but in reality that’s what it often is) and that you are not coping. If he kicks up a stink, tell him that in that case he needs to start paying for 1 day nursery a week.
Step 3: join a mother group of some sort and make an effort to go to it, regardless of how you feel. This can just be a half hour rhyme time at the library, a fb appeal for other local mums to go for coffee, baby splash, playgroup- whatever, but it will get you out with company and at the very least a sympathetic ear and possibly more practical help. It will also help to socialise baby.
Step 4: accept that you can leave baby to cry while you shower and clean your teeth!
Step 5: if you have them, reach out to your own family and explain you could really use some help!

Im sorry you’re feeling so down, OP, but I think you’re going to have to help yourself a bit with this one. The issue isn’t really mil either, it’s husband.

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Hateliars34 · 26/04/2024 08:02

Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 07:57

Nobody babysat or took my baby even for ten mins. At the weekends I still did everything whilst my husband would get a lie in and complain about being exhausted. I asked my friends who had babies around the same time what they do at weekends and they said the dads would take the baby so they’d get a break, I said that never happens for me and they were shocked.

You poor thing. No wonder you are so exhausted!!

Why does your husband do nothing?? Do you love this man? Please don't have other kids with him as things just get harder.

Agree with others, your MIL is very strange and wrong to badmouth you, but your husband is the real problem here.

boyohboys · 26/04/2024 08:02

What would happen if you just plonk baby on your DH at the weekend and tell him you're going out for the day? Not asking but telling him you have plans & just going (like he clearly does all the time without issue!)

Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 08:01

harriethoyle · 26/04/2024 07:59

I think you're focussing your displeasure on the wrong person. WTAF is your "D"H playing at, giving you so little support you have developed dental problems from self-neglect? Or would his version be rather different and you've absolutely insisted that you do everything and not allowed him a look in, but now complain as to how you've martyred yourself?

Either way, MIL is not your issue. Your DH needs to step up...

I would ask him for help or to do things and he would forget or just wouldn’t do it. He would sleep in until lunch time most days. He sits on his phone 24/7. He tells his family that me being depressed stresses him out so I think they all feel sorry for him.

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