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Cancelling visits with in laws

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Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 07:29

I have repeatedly expressed to my in laws that I’m struggling with my baby. I went about ten months with no break, not even 5 mins to myself. No one babysat or came over and helped with housework etc. I have lost several stone and have problems with my teeth because some days I didn’t get to clean them. I am totally exhausted and mentally broken from lack of sleep and rest.

My MIL is the type to not ask to visit or make the effort to reach out and ask to meet up. She waits for me to do all the initiating. I was annoyed by this because in my mind if you want to see your grandchild you’d make the effort. I had to tell her straight up if she wants to visit just ask! Don’t wait to be asked.

So she started making more effort. She cancelled some times due to her health which was fine, no big deal. I cancelled a few times because my baby was having a bad day or I was feeling low or not up for visitors.

I then had other in laws criticising me saying I am stopping her from seeing her grandchild and excluding her. This baffled me because she has seen baby the most out of everyone and I kept inviting her over.

i felt hurt hearing this as I felt I was being portrayed wrongly. I asked my MIL what the issue was and she said that me cancelling on her is “devastating” and she can’t handle it. She said if I make plans with her in the future I’m not allowed to cancel. I said that’s impossible and I can cancel if I want to. I felt she was being unreasonable but she said she wasn’t.

now I feel I have to 1. Force myself to spend time with someone even if it’s a bad day or I’m exhausted from lack of support and 2. If I don’t make plans with her or I do cancel that she’ll bad mouth me to the rest of the family

this is causing me a lot of stress and arguments with my husband.

so am I being unreasonable to think it’s ok to cancel?

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Volpini · 30/04/2024 21:00

exomoon · 26/04/2024 10:37

It's not an either/or situation. Both the DH and his mother sound like cunts. OP is perfectly entitled to tell MIL she won't be organising, facilitaing or hosting visits anymore.

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I have to say, if my MIL repaid my efforts to involve her by slagging me off to family, especially when I was at my lowest, I’d also be giving her just cause to moan as she would from that point on have zero access to me.
i appreciate that you are not emotionally in a position to be kicking people to the kerb, but when I was in your position (dangerously exhausted with zero bandwidth) I quickly learned to be focusing on absolute essentials. When the boat is sinking, deadweight gets chucked overboard.
MIL Drains who come to my house and refuse to speak, then slag me off to relatives (who are then stupid enough to call and drag me about it) would all be top of the Things to Jettison list.
The arrogance and cheek of your husband and his entire **ing family to be dragging you at this time!!! As my dad used to say “those that contribute the least demand the most.”
Never a truer word.
xxx

Volpini · 30/04/2024 19:15

Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 08:04

I have had to resort to that nowadays. Then my husband complains about how exhausted he is from watching her for like one hour. Plus all the negativity and drama from his family makes me feel too low to even want to do anything

Firstly, OP, I’m really really sorry that you have been driven so low.
it’s not the same scenario, but I had an incredibly difficult second baby with lots of issues who screamed all the time and slept very badly. I went back to work when he was 10 months old and he was like this til he was about 3. My husband was diagnosed with serious life threatening illness as I went back to work, so I did all of the nights because husband needed all the rest he could get (not his fault and my choice to try and give him the best possible chance), so I had very little respite. Different situation, but I want to tell you I have some understanding of what a tunnel this feels like. I look back and have no idea how I got through it. I felt totally desperate, I was so completely beyond exhausted, couldn’t see straight at all. I’m so very sorry you are in this place. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

As so many people are saying, and I am sure this is going to make you feel so much worse, your partner is the problem. He is being incredibly, worryingly selfish and immature. I can only imagine how hard this is to hear let alone tackling when you are this low and probably lacking the ability to think proactively because you are just surviving.

You cannot do anything without more sleep/ rest. So the absolute first thing to do is to find one way to start building yourself up. You also desperately need to find someone to confide in who can help you find a way through. It’s really important to feel heard, without judgement, which you are not getting from your partner and his selfish family. You may feel as you start to express this that a large amount of stress and pressure lifts from you, which of itself a huge part of feeling unwell.

As many people have said, a GP appointment sounds like an important place to start. Do you have any private health/ employee assistance programme benefits at work? That may also be a decent avenue to go down.

Once you are stronger you can look to establish a way to do something about your situation with your partner. I can understand this is going to feel unsurmountable until your mental health and rest feels more solid.

I know and recognise the despair of this level of fatigue. my inbox is open should you want to chat offline.
lots of love to you

Toomanyemails · 30/04/2024 10:17

You have a huge DH problem. Your husband:

  • is not taking any responsibility caring for his child, to the point you're exhausted and can't take care of your basic needs
  • is going out to 'sports' in the evenings, leaving you, still exhausted
  • isn't even doing the coordination with his own parents which he agreed to do, causing arguments and upsetting his mum
  • isn't standing up for you to his parents
  • does not seem to be contributing in any way to the housework, looking after baby or supporting your mental/physical health
Does this man make your life better? You've skipped over the questions about him but it's heartbreaking to read how down you are, and infuriating to think your partner is there and not helping! Please do take the advice to see a GP seriously, you sound very low and there should be routes to support that will make this easier
Stormyweathr · 30/04/2024 10:06

Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 07:45

My issue is with her saying I’m purposefully excluding her by cancelling because I’m exhausted when she is aware of how much I’m struggling but she seems to think I’m cancelling because of something to do with her ie she’s taking it personally

Tell her to resolve the situation that going forwards your husband will be bringing the baby to see her once/twice a week

the ownership is then on him and it will also give you a break to have some time to yourself

Molecool · 26/04/2024 20:47

@softslicedwhite

“And in many cases as you read more and more about the parent you see that they too are a Velcro parent. And I don't say this to bash, or make parents, especially women, feel horrific about having what could be perceived as a high needs child or employing attachment parenting methods. I just find it interesting that the baby is the one perceived as needy when actually the parent also plays a role.”

It’s an interesting point you make, but I am in a similar situation to OP but having already had one very much not-Velcro baby. My parenting is the same, if not more laid back with baby #2, happier to hand over to anyone who’ll hold him, can’t get to him as quickly as I have a 2YO. Reading this, I am not sure if I should be blaming myself for my own failings right now because I’ve been too high needs, but if I have, then it doesn’t account for the enormous difference between my first (chilled) and second (velcro) borns.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 26/04/2024 20:23

I would never expect my SIL to be coordinating visits from my parents and me to see my brothers kids. Obviously I go via him or via our group chat that we're all in.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 26/04/2024 20:06

Cbljgdpk · 26/04/2024 07:32

Your husband can make the plans for her to see his mum; then it’s all on him. I don’t see why there has to be this pressure for women to make the plans and spend time with in laws.
Is your husband doing his fair share OP?

Agreed

coconutpie · 26/04/2024 19:17
  1. Stop facilitating visits for MIL. She is not your responsibility.
  1. If MIL's family ring you up or confront you in person to criticise you, hang up / walk away. Do not engage with these awful people.
  1. Get a divorce. Your H is a prick. He fucks off every evening to play sports, has a lie in every weekend, complains about being tired while you don't even have time to BRUSH YOUR TEETH? What an absolute bastard he is. If you can't bring yourself to divorce yet, stop doing anything for him. No laundry, no cleaning up after him, nothing. In fact, try a trial separation. Send him packing to his mother's house, she can deal with him. If you divorced, you'd have no man-child to look after. It'd just be you and your precious baby. Do not waste another minute of your life on this awful sorry excuse of a husband / father.
  1. You are not pathetic. You have raised a baby all by yourself, while dealing with a shit, selfish husband and shit, selfish in-laws, are back at work and are doing your best for your baby. You are amazing.
  1. See point 3. Get a divorce. You'll be much happier.
  1. Go see your GP. You sound like you need some support. GP is a good place to start.
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botleybump · 26/04/2024 18:42

I'd be sending my husband to visit the in laws with the baby so I had five minutes to myself!

Blows my mind!

Molecool · 26/04/2024 18:36

Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 07:40

I have a Velcro baby she wants to be held constantly otherwise she is hysterical and her crying triggers me so I can’t leave her I know I need to be stronger but because I’m so exhausted I just give in. Baby exclusively breastfed and cosleeping. Contact naps only. I feel like a failure because I haven’t been able to be stronger

I have one of those babies, he’s 14 months now. Unless you’ve had one, you don’t know what it’s like. My first wasn’t like this so it is not a PFB thing / something you’re doing wrong. I am so exhausted that I have been sent for an MRI due to the doctors thinking I have nervous system issues. The “help” is me taking the baby to visit family. I can’t give any advice but know you’re not alone and to those questioning why you can’t have a moment to yourself, I get you. You really don’t get a moment, not to wee, not to brush your teeth. If you do those things, it’s met with so much screaming that it takes a long time to attempt to settle, it’s either not worth it or exhausting to do it anyway. Reach out to me if you need to chat so you feel less alone x

softslicedwhite · 26/04/2024 16:46

0sm0nthus · 26/04/2024 16:45

She has cancelled on me in the past and I’ve just accepted it
next time make a massive song and dance, tell her she's not allowed to cancel, etc, serve her own medicine right back to her

Or, rise above it

0sm0nthus · 26/04/2024 16:45

She has cancelled on me in the past and I’ve just accepted it
next time make a massive song and dance, tell her she's not allowed to cancel, etc, serve her own medicine right back to her

0sm0nthus · 26/04/2024 16:44

She just sounds like a batshit child-woman!
Does she come from a culture where daughter-in-laws are expected to unquestioningly obey the MIL?

BabyBoyBeautiful · 26/04/2024 16:40

Your husband is a knob, your MIL is a secondary issue that would be resolved by sorting the husband.
But you can lie the baby on a mat for five minutes to clean your teeth....bit of a stretch blaming MIL for that one!

Tuesday03 · 26/04/2024 16:13

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CelesteCunningham · 26/04/2024 16:12

Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 15:52

She has cancelled on me in the past and I’ve just accepted it. She said she is allowed to cancel but I’m not

I'm not for one second saying she's reasonable in the way she treats you, I'm just saying that she probably is genuinely devastated when you cancel.

Clearly your lack of support is the biggest issue here though, regardless of his mother.

Hedgehogdetective · 26/04/2024 15:52

CelesteCunningham · 26/04/2024 11:47

In fairness to the MIL, it sounds like she's pretty seriously physically disabled and has depression too - cancelling on her probably is devastating because there's probably not much else in her week. That doesn't mean you shouldn't cancel when you mean to, but I think her upset is understandable. She's clearly not in a position to provide support of any kind unfortunately.

Your DH really does sound awful though OP. As you know, that's the problem to fix. Flowers

She has cancelled on me in the past and I’ve just accepted it. She said she is allowed to cancel but I’m not

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semideponent · 26/04/2024 14:44

OP, if you're struggling with your mood, self care and relationships, can I suggest approaching your local Home Start for some support from one of their volunteers?

I used to volunteer there myself and found it's the simple things that make the difference - someone to hold the baby for a bit, someone to chat to about what's going on right now and what you want for the future, go for a walk with now the weather's nicer, perhaps take care of things while you shower and brush teeth. Basically, someone for 1-2 hours a week to help you with the small steps towards things getting better. The volunteers are really carefully screened and trained. Sometimes there are groups you can join too.

UneTasse · 26/04/2024 14:29

You might have started this thread about your MIL, but your husband is the real problem here - and I think you know that. In the event that you can bring yourself to have sex with him, given how deeply unattractively he is behaving, PLEASE for the love of GOD use every form of contraception known to humanity.

And you know, I would think about leaving. You're back at work, baby is at nursery, and even if he is a high earner, it feels like your standard of living would be considerably improved by NOT having him in the picture. It's vanishingly unlikely he will look for shared custody, except to be a bastard about it, but even if he does, at least you get some proper PROPER time off to rest. He does nothing, so you wouldn't have more to do as a single parent than you do now.

Your MIL isn't really doing anything wrong. But my goodness, your husband is doing EVERYTHING wrong. I can't imagine he'd be particularly surprised or bothered if you just left.

Gillbil · 26/04/2024 14:20

I've figured out the issue, your husband is a massive prat, and doesn't want to be a dad.
LTB
And i mean that literally. If the only concern you have is bills and how a divorce will effect your child.
Your relationship is over, start preparing.

And I hope it gets better.

SpoonieMum19 · 26/04/2024 14:10

You’re not a failure OP! Far from it, you’ve survived a tough time with very little support.

Some babies are just Velcro babies and it’s tough, you do what you need to do to get by and they eventually grow into the next stage.

You’ve been badly let down by your DH in so many ways. Leave your MIL to him 100% and focus on doing what you need to do to feel better.

Sending love and strength!

Nosleepforthismum · 26/04/2024 13:36

You’re not pathetic OP. Far from it. You are holding down the (parenting) fort solo 24/7. That is a tough role. Your DH however, is a shit bag. I’d just divorce him as he clearly does fuck all and you’ll then have one less baby to deal with and get rid of MIL at the same time. No point bitching about your H to your MIL though, men like this don’t change so it’s a complete waste of your energy. Focus on yourself and baby and cut that dead weight from your life.

paisley256 · 26/04/2024 13:24

I agree with pp that you sound like you're drowning and blaming yourself for everything when it's your husband who isn't helping you.

I know what it's like to be completely alone with babies and zero breaks and how easy it is to feel overwhelmed. It's easier to do it alone though than be part of a marriage where the expectation is all on you to cope while he lives his life as he did before baby arrived.

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 26/04/2024 12:27

You have a shit husband and allowed yourself to fall into the trap of feeling that allowing your child to cry was the same as making her cry.

I'm sorry your MIL has upset you but I think this is really something you need to hand over to aforementioned useless husband. If she can't/won't engage and then bitches behind your back, then draw a line under it and he can deal with her.

Also start leaving the baby with him and going out on your own.

ThisIsMyRubbishUsername · 26/04/2024 12:19

In all honesty I would stop making any effort with your MIL. Let her whinging and gossiping to other family members be true.
Shes not able to help you, can’t even be bothered to speak to you when she visits and she is dragging your mental health down. Don’t enable her visits, leave it to your DH.
Get rid of any expectations of her, she is never going to meet them. She also sounds like the sort of woman where nothing you do will be good enough anyway. His family will gossip about you whatever you do. You need to focus on yourself and carve time out for you. Your husband need to step up, but he sounds as useless as the rest of his family.

You have been describing yourself as ‘pathetic’ on this thread. First step in self-care for you is to stop thinking of yourself that way. You are not pathetic. You have a lot on your plate because you have useless inlaws and a husband who are not supporting you when you need it the most.

As your baby gets older and more independent things will get easier.

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