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AIBU to think I haven’t flown much

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Florraine · 25/04/2024 16:55

I had a rather odd discussion yesterday about travel with a friend and have been left feeling a little glum. They travel everywhere and seem to think that I travel less than the average Brit, which I always thought wasn’t true.

they are a bit up themselves I must admit!

I’ve just turned 29 and having given it some thought, I have been on 91 flights in my life time (counting one trip as two flights - outward and return). Mostly in Europe but several in Africa and the USA.

I can’t seem to work out we’re they joking or being serious when they said I need to get out more.

were they right? Is it unusual not to have flown much by my age (29)?

OP posts:
burnttoad · 26/04/2024 08:49

Florraine · 25/04/2024 17:33

I’m just asking about flights. I’ve been to France, Germany and Ireland lots of times without flying.

I never really got how individuals flying impacts CO2 emissions THAT much. I mean, if the plane is already flying anyway then how much extra CO2 can one more person bring? I always thought that the avaiation industry contributed to climate change through the sheer number of flights on offer (some routes with multiple flights per day) rather than planes being full when they fly? I never really got how one more person on a plane adds to CO2. Maybe you can all enlighten me?

Er it's really not that hard to understand.
If people were travelling by plane so much there would be fewer planes

Did you really not understand this?

They aren't putting on flights 'anyway' and you bring on the plane makes no difference. If there was a 50% drop in passengers do you really think airlines would have the same number of flights?

It's like saying you don't understand how you throwing shit out of your car window causes a problem as the road sweepers are coming anyway as do many other people throw their shit out of their windows.

Goldfishonabike · 26/04/2024 08:46

Well, she’s won the competition for the highest carbon footprint and strange boast, well done 😅
saying that though, being well-travelled isn’t only measured by number of flights.
Some people fly to eg South East Asia and then cover many countries by bus, or do inter rail in Europe.

I couldn’t for the life of me count how many flights I’ve done, as I lived in the UK for 15 years while traveling to my home country in Europe several times a year. I now live in my home country and we visit DH’s family in two other countries regularly, sometimes by flight and sometimes by car, we also regularly go back to the UK, so we tend to go to a lot of the same countries, so I have loads of air miles but not very widely travelled in the last 15 years or so!
I did a lot of traveling in my twenties, and most of it was by bus and train, so I covered more countries by land transport than by air.

Goldenphoenix · 26/04/2024 08:26

91 flights is loads! Offset your carbon.

LindorDoubleChoc · 26/04/2024 08:09

How very very VERY odd! The whole thing!

LandArt · 26/04/2024 08:05

Florraine · 25/04/2024 18:08

@thisfilmisboring123 i am not sure what you are referring to. I don’t think that poster would have much luck in stopping people flying abroad for leisure - the airport was really busy last time I was there and I didn’t see signs of demand slowing down.

I don’t get though, given that there are THOUSANDS of flights PER DAY, the difference that one extra person goes on a seat that would have been empty - whether or not they have done this 91 times.

every year there are millions of flights.

It’s not that physics isn’t your strong point, it’s that thinking isn’t your strong point.

GreyCarpet · 26/04/2024 08:01

What an odd thing to worry about!

I've flown precisely 7 times (and back again obviously).

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 26/04/2024 07:58

I don't think flying a lot makes you cultured or well travelled in the proper sense. You could've just gone to the same resort in the Costa brava 3 times a year every year, you could consistently fly long haul all over the world go directly to your all inclusive resort and back again. I don't think those things broaden the mind.... I flew regularly between Essex and Manchester for a previous job, it was quicker and cheaper than driving or train, I don't think that adds to my social capital

mitogoshi · 26/04/2024 07:49

I've just totted up my flights, I'm fairly well travelled in my mind and I've done around 50 legs in 50 years. Didn't fly much as a kid then most years as an adult though did take ferry some years or not go abroad

Justkeepswiimming · 26/04/2024 07:36

Who cares? I've been abroad fewer times than I can count on my 2 hands and I'm 34. Do I really care? No. Not much money growing up. Much less now 🤣. This a beautiful country we live in and I absolutely love exploring it. Although I'm always pleased there are so many people caught up with foreign travel, it leaves the nice bits of this country a bit quieter.

StMarieforme · 26/04/2024 07:35

I've flown 10 times. I'm 61.

Comparison is the thief of joy.

StamppotAndGravy · 26/04/2024 07:30

Florraine · 25/04/2024 17:33

I’m just asking about flights. I’ve been to France, Germany and Ireland lots of times without flying.

I never really got how individuals flying impacts CO2 emissions THAT much. I mean, if the plane is already flying anyway then how much extra CO2 can one more person bring? I always thought that the avaiation industry contributed to climate change through the sheer number of flights on offer (some routes with multiple flights per day) rather than planes being full when they fly? I never really got how one more person on a plane adds to CO2. Maybe you can all enlighten me?

God help us! They only fly because people buy tickets. If everyone took responsibility and stopped buying tickets, they'd stop flying. If most people flew less, there'd be fewer flights. No wonder we have a climate emergency

notimagain · 26/04/2024 07:27

Either you are deliberately being a bit thick to wind us up or you really don't understand about supply and demand.

TBF to the OP I thought the question posed in that post(“I don’t get though…”) and certainly the one I attempted to answer, was about the effect of one passenger on the emissions on a single flight.

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 26/04/2024 07:14

Florraine · 25/04/2024 18:08

@thisfilmisboring123 i am not sure what you are referring to. I don’t think that poster would have much luck in stopping people flying abroad for leisure - the airport was really busy last time I was there and I didn’t see signs of demand slowing down.

I don’t get though, given that there are THOUSANDS of flights PER DAY, the difference that one extra person goes on a seat that would have been empty - whether or not they have done this 91 times.

every year there are millions of flights.

Either you are deliberately being a bit thick to wind us up or you really don't understand about supply and demand.

maddening · 26/04/2024 07:10

Florraine · 25/04/2024 17:33

I’m just asking about flights. I’ve been to France, Germany and Ireland lots of times without flying.

I never really got how individuals flying impacts CO2 emissions THAT much. I mean, if the plane is already flying anyway then how much extra CO2 can one more person bring? I always thought that the avaiation industry contributed to climate change through the sheer number of flights on offer (some routes with multiple flights per day) rather than planes being full when they fly? I never really got how one more person on a plane adds to CO2. Maybe you can all enlighten me?

Supply and demand - if people reduced flying they would need to reduce the number of flights offered.

Menomeno · 26/04/2024 07:09

I’m terrified of flying. I’ve flown once in my life, and got the train home. I spend 2-3 months a year abroad.

maddening · 26/04/2024 07:05

I am 46 and have done 8 return flights in my life, non long haul

thisfilmisboring123 · 26/04/2024 07:02

awayandaway · 26/04/2024 00:20

are there really people around so insensitive to environmental devastation that they seriously think the suggestion to holiday in your own country is a joke?

So I suppose you’ve never been abroad on holiday, no?

Usernamechange1234 · 26/04/2024 06:57

I couldn’t be proud of 91 flights. I love travelling but I try and restrict my flights to one a year because… well you know climate change and all that.

Certainly couldn’t sit there and have a debate (humble brag) over who was f’ing up the planet more!

Just feels like a dirty secret, and yes I know I’m entirely hypocritical over this but there you go!

notimagain · 26/04/2024 06:53

Leaving environmental issues aside for a moment and addressing the OP.

90 ish flights is a decent number for somebody traveling on their own dollar just for holidays but TBH I suspect not that unusual…one clue is in the number of threads you see elsewhere in MN asking for advice on things like good cities for weekend breaks.

When I used to travel a lot more than I do now I’d see the same folks (often well heeled) regularly in airports/on aircraft off to their holiday pad on a Friday night…

Under a hundred flights certainly almost trivial compared with the amount some business flyers do (see some pps).

BathshebaEverdene1 · 26/04/2024 05:53

I have no idea how many flights I have been on as I don't keep a tally.
A few anyway. Not as many as you have obviously!
Well done for being so " well travelled "!

judgementfail · 26/04/2024 05:38

A quick bit of mental arithmetic reveals I've been on well over 600 flights.
Have been or am Gold frequent flyer on BA, Cathay, Emirates, Qantas and Air Nz.
My first ever flight was when I was 25.
I'm now late 40's

MumChp · 26/04/2024 04:09

Either you are joking or a spoilt brat.

Purplemist · 26/04/2024 04:07

By the age of 29 I had been on three flights (a school trip when I was fifteen).
I am 67 now and have still only been on three flights.
91 seems a lot.

Tarkan · 26/04/2024 01:58

I've only been outside the UK 3 times in my life but I've flown within the UK a few times as well. When I went to France we actually flew from Aberdeen to Luton where a bus collected us for the rest of the trip.

I've been on 12 flights in total but half of them were for one holiday to Alaska as I needed 3 flights each way.

I've travelled over a lot of the UK via his, train and car though. All my childhood holidays were camping within the UK and as a result I've only ever had 2 passports (one for the France trip and one for Alaska. My first holiday abroad was to Florida, I was 14 and my brother and I travelled on our parents' passports).

bradpittsbathwater · 26/04/2024 01:46

How did you get to 91? I'd have lost track. I didn't get on a plane until I was 28. I think it's very privileged to judge that as not many flights.

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