To hate pigeons with every bone in my body?

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Trust me, you don't. They're arseholes. I wish the police would arrest all of the ones around here.

I do realise 😅

Thats why the police have a dedicated wildlife crime unit, so get of your high horse.

Wildlife crime unit wont investigate your silly bike. 🙄

@IamaRevenant

Not entirely sure why they're here instead of missing off to Weston Super Mare or somewhere with actual sea.

They’re* *in urban areas because it’s easier for them to scavenge for food humans discard than to find food in the sea. Which is really unhealthy for them.

Maybe try to attract seagulls? The seagulls here in Bristol do an excellent job of reducing the pigeon population. I can barely ever go out without seeing a seagulls eating a pigeon on the street. Not entirely sure why they're here instead of missing off to Weston Super Mare or somewhere with actual sea.

Negatives may include picking up half eaten dead pigeons and listening to the constant squawking that starts at 3am. They're also a protected species so much as I'd like to borrow my dad's air rifle I cannot.

Well don’t leave stuff like that out then? Especially under a tree, not sure what you expected. It’s your fault, not the pigeons’. They’re just doing what birds do. And you can’t expect wild animals to care about your decking.

it’s no wonder there are so many endangered species across the world with attitudes like those in this thread. We should share space with animals, not monopolise it leaving them with nowhere to go.

Do you rent or own? I rented a new build flat where the balcony became home for pigeons and I still regret not making the lettings agency sort it. It was my first time renting and I didn't know I had the right to enjoy my outdoor space without it being covered in bird shit.

I don't hate pigeons though, I feel sorry for them.

This is a hoax surely? Unless you have been living under a rock all your life, how can you not understand that tampering, harming or destroying, wild bird eggs, is a criminal offence?

@MargoLivebetter as others have already said under the Wildlife and Countryside Act from 1981, the law confirms that individuals and organizations are not allowed to kill, injure or hold captive wild birds, damage and destroy their nests and destroy their eggs. Taking such actions is considered an offence.

The only exception can be found in the General Licenses, issued by Natural England and good luck getting one. A General License allows individuals to kill certain birds, this is only the case when the birds present threat to the health and security of the general public. The protection of a fabric of any building is not a reason to kill any bird or to destroy their nests.

Also under The Animal Welfare Act 2006 deals with issues relating to cruelty and unnecessary suffering, deliberate or unintended, to animals and birds.

An example might be where birds have become trapped behind nylon bird netting installed on a building and subsequently died of starvation as a result. If the property owner was challenged and faced prosecution on the grounds of cruelty and unnecessary suffering, the above law would most probably be applied and not the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981.

Anyone found guilty of an offence could be given a maximum penalty of six months' imprisonment and an unlimited fine, which can be imposed in respect of each bird, nest or egg affected.

If you were my neighbour or I knew who you were i would be reporting you. Also to reiterate pidgeons are not classed as vermine to be destoryed.

I like pigeons. I always have a few building nests in our fir trees. They are clumsy, clumpy things but they have have a lot of charm. I love watching their mating dance on DC's wooden swing post.

They are also determined to get seed from the feeders and some of their yogic poses to reach it, is genius!

I can understand them nesting on a roof might be annoying but I would actually find it fascinating living amongst them.

The poo is annoying, so get professional help to remove them.

Please don't throw their eggs.

I've been banned from here for less. Wow.

I remember that thread!

Out house had caught fire. And we were in a hotel. And cunting pigeons on the windowsill started up their racket at 5.00 am. We got no sleep.

Can you not just pigeon net your veranda?

Brilliant thread here - an oldie but a goodie - if anyone wants to revisit it: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1793809-To-long-for-a-world-free-from-cunting-pigeons?reply=40058763

I still howl at the gin drinking neighbour with the shotgun: slurp, bang, chortle

@MargoLivebetter I understand your frustrations. We had them shagging, moaning and shitting just outside our bedroom window every day at 5am for months on end. So many of them it felt like we lived in Trafalgar Square.
I was menopausal and not sleeping, with bereavements etc going on in the background, so this wasn’t helpful! I’ve been veggie for 40 years and never harm animals… but if you’d given me a gun at that point I’d have shot every one of the fuckers.

Edited to add:
my bin liner method got rid of the ‘hangers on’ and then luckily, the crows helped move on the hardcore remainders. If it happened again I would get pest control in from the start.

The other day I cut the grass but it started to rain and I stopped, putting the mower away but I left the box under the apple tree. It's now deeply covered with pigeon droppings, when we had decking and a pergola they sat there and covered the decking. No conscience whatsoever about getting rid of them when I can, flying rats.

There's a lot of pigeon info pages on Facebook that should be able to help. There will be lots of rehabbers in London, there are groups that go out to destring their little feet etc.

It's weird that you seem to have so many causing such chaos. Maybe 'lobbing' their eggs is just encouraging them to lay more and keep returning?

If you Google you'll see its rare for pigeons to pass disease on to humans, so that's something at least!

Err, yes it is:

You’re breaking the law if you:

• intentionally kill, injure or take wild birds
• intentionally take, damage or destroy a wild bird’s nest while it’s being used or built
• intentionally take or destroy a wild bird’s egg
• possess, control or transport live or dead wild birds, or parts of them, or their eggs
• sell wild birds or put them on display for sale
• use prohibited methods to kill or take wild birds

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/wild-birds-protection-surveys-and-licences

www.mentalfloss.com/article/535506/facts-about-pigeons

Admire any animals that live in our concrete wasteland tbh. And as a previous poster said, we dumped them when we no longer needed them for messengers.

But OK OP it is annoying to have your outdoor space spoiled. I'm sure Google has many solutions you might not have tried.

Flying rats. I don't like them.