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Abhorrent comments made about a persons height

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 09:30

Calling someone who is below the average height, "pint-sized" is abhorrent
at the very least. A person's height is beyond the person's control and calling them "pint-sized," some may even say it's an ableist comment

Yesterday, during the PMQ's the lead was taken by the deputy heads of both Tories and Labour. Standing in for the Labour leader was Angela Rayner. She called the Tory leader, Rishi Sunak a "pint-sized leader" when she was losing the arugument

This reminds me of clowns at work who had nicknames for other people who did not fit in with their agenda. Often people will make disparaging comments about another when they feel threatened because of their own inadequacies.
Should she apologise for making these disgusting comments?

AIBU to believe these comments were necessary, inappropriate and disgustingly abhorrent.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/angela-rayner-oliver-dowden-house-of-commons-rishi-sunak-labour-b2533966.html

Angela Rayner aims ‘pint-sized loser’ jibe at Rishi Sunak during PMQs

Deputy Prime Minister Oliver Dowden countered the criticism by mocking the Labour deputy over her housing arrangements.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/angela-rayner-oliver-dowden-house-of-commons-rishi-sunak-labour-b2533966.html

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Iwasafool · 27/04/2024 11:45

NoDought · 27/04/2024 10:00

Surely abhorrent is an adjective reserved for describing rape and murder not calling someone short.

Yes and saying it is abhorrent must mean there is something very bad about being 5'6" or whatever he is. To me someone saying that is abhorrent is making a very negative judgement about people who aren't the height they find acceptable.

CLCB07 · 27/04/2024 10:59

She was quoting Nadine Dorries who said the exact same thing in her book. Starmer has been called 'the terrorists friend' at PMQs. Johnson told Ian Blackford he'd been in the biscuit tin too much. No big deal.

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 27/04/2024 10:13

AnnieSnap · 27/04/2024 00:31

😂🤣

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Why the "lol"???
Do you call people names like that, behind their backs?

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NoDought · 27/04/2024 10:00

Surely abhorrent is an adjective reserved for describing rape and murder not calling someone short.

pointythings · 27/04/2024 08:49

Daz57 · 26/04/2024 22:26

I don’t think there is any evidence that Nadine Norris called Rishi Sunak a ‘pint sized loser. Body shaming is not acceptable and we should hold all our politicians to higher standards.

She did - it's in her book. AR was quoting. Keep up.

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 27/04/2024 08:28

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/04/2024 09:42

Moier · Today 09:38
Well she's not very intelligent in my opinion.
She's all ignorant and lacking interlect”

”Interlect”?

I expect she can spell.

I may be wrong, but I had the impression the poster was deliberately misspelling this word to make a point.

I can't stand Angela Rayner either, despite the fact that 'I hate the Tories all right'. His size is an obvious target; I find him really bizarre to look at. He's like a crisp packet that you've shrunk in the oven. It's not just being short; his whole frame makes him look like a kind of man-child.

Mercurial123 · 27/04/2024 05:40

Daz57 · 26/04/2024 22:26

I don’t think there is any evidence that Nadine Norris called Rishi Sunak a ‘pint sized loser. Body shaming is not acceptable and we should hold all our politicians to higher standards.

You really need to watch more PMQs.

exaltedwombat · 27/04/2024 01:06

Ever seen a political cartoon? All characteristics, physical and otherwise, are fair game.

AnnieSnap · 27/04/2024 00:31

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 26/04/2024 21:15

You remind me of the fool at work that used to call our manager, behind her back, "poison dwarf." That manager was was not that short but some people don't need an excuse to be abhorrent.

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CauliflowerBalti · 26/04/2024 23:29

“Imagine if Labour get into No 10!”

If Angela Rayner saying something like this is as bad as it can possibly get for you - the rest of us will be breathing a hearty sigh of relief.

BIossomtoes · 26/04/2024 23:16

Daz57 · 26/04/2024 22:26

I don’t think there is any evidence that Nadine Norris called Rishi Sunak a ‘pint sized loser. Body shaming is not acceptable and we should hold all our politicians to higher standards.

It’s in her book. 🤷‍♀️

IvorTheEngineDriver · 26/04/2024 22:35

Whatever.

Daz57 · 26/04/2024 22:26

I don’t think there is any evidence that Nadine Norris called Rishi Sunak a ‘pint sized loser. Body shaming is not acceptable and we should hold all our politicians to higher standards.

pointythings · 26/04/2024 21:54

BIossomtoes · 26/04/2024 21:19

Is “abhorrent” word of the week?

Absolutely. I remember a few weeks ago it was all about 'toxic femininity' (i.e. being feminist). I suppose if you're training an AI, you need to feed it a wide range of subject matter.

At least word of the week isn't 'interlect'.

SabreIsMyFave · 26/04/2024 21:21

AnnieSnap · 26/04/2024 20:49

It’s Sunak. He deserves to be insulted. I refer to him a the poisoned dwarf. Shoot me!

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BIossomtoes · 26/04/2024 21:19

Is “abhorrent” word of the week?

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 26/04/2024 21:15

AnnieSnap · 26/04/2024 20:49

It’s Sunak. He deserves to be insulted. I refer to him a the poisoned dwarf. Shoot me!

You remind me of the fool at work that used to call our manager, behind her back, "poison dwarf." That manager was was not that short but some people don't need an excuse to be abhorrent.

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AnnieSnap · 26/04/2024 20:49

It’s Sunak. He deserves to be insulted. I refer to him a the poisoned dwarf. Shoot me!

lotsofpeoplenametheirswords · 26/04/2024 19:33

I dislike Angela Rayner and her party but she wasn't offensive, she wasn't ableist and she said nothing distasteful.

I'm tiny. I get called a shortarse. I call myself a shortarse. I don't weep about it.

Itradehorses · 26/04/2024 19:23

Don't really care to be honest. I do care about the fact that Sunak pays next to no tax though on an actual rate of about 23% of his massive wealth earnings because of how the Tories have gamed the tax system.

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 26/04/2024 19:15

PoppyJM · 25/04/2024 09:36

I hadn’t seen this, but what a disgraceful thing to say to him.

I didn’t vote at the last election as I thought both options were awful. Lots of people who did vote ended up voting for the least bad option. I don’t think I will vote this time either. I don’t think the current conservative govt has done a good job. But I don’t Angela Rayner is is a good option either. I wish they would put a “none of the above” box.

Students' Union elections, at least in my day ⏳, always had R.O.N. as a candidate. The acronym meant Reopen Nominations, literally a 'none of the above' option. I often always think of it on election days 😭

Notonthestairs · 26/04/2024 19:12

It certainly wasn't an accident that Rayner quoted Dorries to Dowden.

Dowden was one of the first, if not the first, ministers to resign under Johnson and rather pulled the trigger on the end of Johnson's leadership. Sunak waited a couple of weeks before resigning himself. Sunak and Dowden are close friends and who knows, maybe Dorries has a point about Dowden, Jenrick and Sunak collaborating to get rid of Johnson.

(Obviously Johnson had significant input in his own downfall. By the time he resigned his polling was in the toilet.)

But there is still a section of the Conservatives that would love to bring Johnson back - they would do anything right now to save their jobs.

So the broader picture is that by quoting Dorries Rayner wanted to remind Conservative backbenches that Dowden/Sunak precipitated their current crisis.

Obviously alot of the focus has been on the pint sized reference but I think the main thrust of her quote was about Dowden/Sunak knifing Johnson in the back.

INeedToClingToSomething · 26/04/2024 19:04

I don't think politicians should be commenting on the appearance of others to win political arguments. Seems a bit silly and childish and could potentially be very offensive. But politicians say all sorts to each other and their behaviour often appears like playground behaviour so I think this is far from the worst of it.

I am "vertically challenged" and wouldn't be at all worried et someone calling me "pint-sized". It's not really that bad that I would call it "abhorrent" although probably slightly more offensive to men as height and masculinity are linked by society. However I still think "abhorrent" is a bit too strong really.

jillb55 · 26/04/2024 18:16

She was quoting Nadine Dorries, apparently. Not a good move but the whole place is like a barnyard and what she said was no worse than what others have said, including about her.

Muddlingalongsomehow · 26/04/2024 18:12

Oh ffs, people. This is Nadine Dorries' term for him when he ousted Johnson. Rayner is taking the piss out of his divided party by QUOTING it. Stop the pearl clutching. Get angry about Cameron telling Corbyn that "if my mother were here, she'd tell him to straighten his tie and put on a decent suit" or Matt Hancock's appalling telling Rosina Allen-Khan she should "watch her tone" or all the filthy jibes about Rayner opening her legs to distract Johnson.

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