Abhorrent comments made about a persons height

I was surprised at her choice of words. These things are usually prepared in advance, so I don't think it was spontaneous.

If a man had attacked a female MP over a physical characteristic, I think the reaction would have been very different. But he's a Tory, so that's OK.

Basic civility is like freedom of speech - you either believe in it for everyone, or you don't believe in it at all.

Looking forward to Gullis getting the boot, too.

Funnily enough I was at a meeting the other day and the bloke leading it started making jokes about how small sunak was and har har can you imagine, and then he realised/remembered I am really really small and just segued into a different story

tbh if you're small and sensitive about it you're going to be in for a very rough ride

I think most of the discourse in the house of commons is pretty embarrassing though, if they weren't banging out the childish comments they wouldn't have much of anything to do

Did you know Rayner has a four bedroomed house?

Mps being immature and insulting in Westminster who would have thought ! The fact that insulting each other is sport and gets the whooping and jeering going for the session!

ExtraOnions · Today 10:30
I love Rayner … I love the way she triggers the right-wing snowflakes. With any luck they will all be so angry they may combust”

Wonders? Can snowflakes combust? Or do they just dissolve into a drippy pool?

Either way, can’t wait to see it happening to many at the GE. So many potentially gratifying Portillo moments. Will be following North East Somerset with hopeful anticipation.

I'm not a fan of ad hom attacks when it's things people can't help (background, physicality) as opposed to affectations or oversights (Johnson's hair, Sunak being out of touch, very fine line indeed but some of Rayner's northern schtick).

I can see why Starmer gives so little away.

However, I fail to see the ablism angle. How is Sunak disabled in any way by his height?

I agree it was a comment on the insubstantial nature of his leadership as much as or more than his physical stature which is a fair comment IMO even if expressed in a parliamentary rough and tumble manner.

Dudn't Dorries originally refer to Sunak as pint sized?

Is this the new line of attack seeing as the 'police investigation' was outed yesterday for the full on tory smear campaign it is?

(For anyone who missed it, the police chief behind the investigation was found to have attended right wing fringe events at the tory party conference and is mates with the tory who's been pushing for the witchhunt).

He's the Prime Minister, he's supposed to be running the country. He is not a child at school and shouldn't be treated like one. How do you think he can cope with tough decisions, confrontations with people like Putin if a comment about his height is such a big deal. I suppose all Putin needs to say is, "Hello shorty" and he can just take over the country, no need for military action.

Exactly.

OP bleating on about school friends. Really? Political life is extremely tough and to get anywhere near the top you have to have rhino hide skin. That comment wouldn't even make it into the top 1,000 jibes that have been fired across the benches in the last 10 years.

And don't look back through Hansard OP, some previous comments from prePC days will make you faint, you delicate little flower you.

Exactly, what I see of her love.

He's 5 foot 9. I think that's pretty average for the UK.

Definitely not tall, and absolutely a terrible failure of a pm.

Oh fucks sake!

The Tories have fucked everyone so much and given all the money YOU AND I EARN to their rich mates !!

Who gives a FUCK about a bit of name calling

@CelesteCunningham / I rate her. The Tories hate her. She is going to beat them. What a life she has had. I suspect they really hate her because she is likely to be radical. I would be too if I had had her life.

I didn't realise I was disabled because I'm short!

If you think that's abhorrent, you need to pay more attention to what goes on in Westminster. That's stuff that's way way worse than that. I'm short. I've been called pint-sized, fun-size, shorty and more. None of which has made me react in anything close to the way you have, and none of which made me feel anything close to disabled. The fact that you have had the gall to conflate the two is astonishing.

We can see which side of the political boundary you are on. That's fine. But this just smacks of a desperate attempt to reduce the number of people thinking about voting Labour. That seems to be happening more and more on mumsnet. I think the Tory PR machine needs to work on getting better people representing their party, rather than these frankly bizarre attempts to undermine Labour.

Fwiw, I won't be voting for either Tory or Labour, before I get accused of being biased.

I love Rayner … I love the way she triggers the right-wing snowflakes. With any luck they will all be so angry they may combust.

Oh calm down.

I am “pint sized”. You can’t be offended by everything ffs.

ALovelyCupOfNameChange · Today 10:24
I thought she nailed PMqs yesterday”

So did I. Never been an huge fan.

Boris not tall. He's pretty short. His photos are done to make him look tall. Actually he is just chunky

Why doesn't she appear clever on first impression?

I don't follow politics closely but to succeed in an arena like that that's dominated by middle- and upper middle class white men, a working class woman will typically be far more intelligent than the typical man in the same role. The backwards and in heels thing.

She's pretty formidable as far as I can see.

So she’s horrendous referring to his height? (a quote from one of his colleagues, incidentally) but you can decide after hearing her speak for 5 minutes that she’s “unstable”?

Hypocrite. Again, please explain why you believe your username is appropriate. It certainly doesn’t appear to be so from some of your gibberish on this thread.

He's the Prime Minister, he's supposed to be running the country. He is not a child at school and shouldn't be treated like one. How do you think he can cope with tough decisions, confrontations with people like Putin if a comment about his height is such a big deal. I suppose all Putin needs to say is, "Hello shorty" and he can just take over the country, no need for military action.

It's PMQs. It's always been a bear pit of insults to get the back benchers riled up. Makes AIBU look like a tea party.

This just tells me you don't watch the Common often. Surprising, for such a Torybot.

And the Tories are by far the worst for retreating to personal insults when they are unable to deal with the question.

It’s a quote from Nadine Dorries. I imagine Dowden knew that, which makes it a perfectly barbed comment.