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Abhorrent comments made about a persons height

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/04/2024 09:30

Calling someone who is below the average height, "pint-sized" is abhorrent
at the very least. A person's height is beyond the person's control and calling them "pint-sized," some may even say it's an ableist comment

Yesterday, during the PMQ's the lead was taken by the deputy heads of both Tories and Labour. Standing in for the Labour leader was Angela Rayner. She called the Tory leader, Rishi Sunak a "pint-sized leader" when she was losing the arugument

This reminds me of clowns at work who had nicknames for other people who did not fit in with their agenda. Often people will make disparaging comments about another when they feel threatened because of their own inadequacies.
Should she apologise for making these disgusting comments?

AIBU to believe these comments were necessary, inappropriate and disgustingly abhorrent.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/angela-rayner-oliver-dowden-house-of-commons-rishi-sunak-labour-b2533966.html

Angela Rayner aims ‘pint-sized loser’ jibe at Rishi Sunak during PMQs

Deputy Prime Minister Oliver Dowden countered the criticism by mocking the Labour deputy over her housing arrangements.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/angela-rayner-oliver-dowden-house-of-commons-rishi-sunak-labour-b2533966.html

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Mrsjayy · 25/04/2024 12:02

Verv · 25/04/2024 11:41

Rayner is one of those insufferable "I tell it like it is!" women. Not very bright, and anticipates an Oscar for every tedious insult that she manages to expel.

If she was on a checkout nobody would pay her any attention.

I imagine a check out is where you think she should be !

JessS1990 · 25/04/2024 12:02

IClaudine · 25/04/2024 11:53

The Tories hate her because left wing working class people who reach positions of power scare them.

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Doubly scary if they are a woman.
This is of course a downside of knowing what a woman is.

JessS1990 · 25/04/2024 12:01

IClaudine · 25/04/2024 11:49

Well, she is going to be deputy PM soon, so cry harder as the young folk say.

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I actually find this really worrying.

At the moment we have to have a daily thread on Rayner's latest sin, when she is in government, will it be hourly?

newnamethanks · 25/04/2024 11:59

I've obviously missed the threads of outrage made on Angela's behalf at the atrocious, contemptuous, misogynistic language and misleading statements she is constantly subject to by the Tory scum. How can that be?

Verv · 25/04/2024 11:59

bombastix · 25/04/2024 11:43

But strangely she isn't on a checkout. She could be, but has done rather well for herself.

Was she only supposed to do that in a specially Tory way?

Not at all, just pointing out that her position elevates her and her behaviour, which is basic, to the point that some people find it admirable.
The fact is, that if she didn't have her position, she wouldn't get anybody fawning at her "wit" for calling somebody pint sized.

ALovelyCupOfNameChange · 25/04/2024 11:57

Pint sized? of course he is but also i feel Rayner was also referring to his inability to run the country or his party.

I watched it live and that’s how I took it. I am very small so perhaps more sensitive than most about height jokes and I didn’t take it like that.

Verv · 25/04/2024 11:56

IClaudine · 25/04/2024 11:49

Well, she is going to be deputy PM soon, so cry harder as the young folk say.

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The young folk say it because they're woefully immature.
That said, I'm sure you've tickled yourself with the little bit of posturing. Tres Angela.

IClaudine · 25/04/2024 11:53

The Tories hate her because left wing working class people who reach positions of power scare them.

ClairemacL · 25/04/2024 11:53

They’re all as bad as one another. Plenty of comments about her being a rough chav have been made before now.

Not that they’re inaccurate

BIossomtoes · 25/04/2024 11:51

bombastix · 25/04/2024 11:43

But strangely she isn't on a checkout. She could be, but has done rather well for herself.

Was she only supposed to do that in a specially Tory way?

Exactly. Any woman who has the grit, determination and self belief to achieve what she has is to be admired.

IClaudine · 25/04/2024 11:49

Verv · 25/04/2024 11:41

Rayner is one of those insufferable "I tell it like it is!" women. Not very bright, and anticipates an Oscar for every tedious insult that she manages to expel.

If she was on a checkout nobody would pay her any attention.

Well, she is going to be deputy PM soon, so cry harder as the young folk say.

bombastix · 25/04/2024 11:43

But strangely she isn't on a checkout. She could be, but has done rather well for herself.

Was she only supposed to do that in a specially Tory way?

Verv · 25/04/2024 11:41

Rayner is one of those insufferable "I tell it like it is!" women. Not very bright, and anticipates an Oscar for every tedious insult that she manages to expel.

If she was on a checkout nobody would pay her any attention.

CountingCrones · 25/04/2024 11:40

Sunak's 5'5" or possibly 5'6", judging by his height when he's next to not-short-arses.

He claims to be 5'7", but given the inflation the rest of us have suffered, I suppose an inch or two is pretty restrained of him.

frankentall · 25/04/2024 11:38

Haydenn · 25/04/2024 09:47

You should know better than this. When someone on the right says something inappropriate then they should resign. When someone on the left says it people “struggle to get worked up” or “it’s always like that in the House of Commons”

If it’s the worst thing Raynor does this week though I’d be surprised….

Utter bollocks although it does follow a tendency I've noticed for Rayner haters to be unable to even spell her last name.

Goldenbear · 25/04/2024 11:33

TTPD · 25/04/2024 11:28

He's a couple of inches shorter than Johnson I think. He's about 5'6. Same as Zelensky apparently. And there was footage of him meeting Olaf Scholz yesterday who can't have been any taller really.

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Taller than Olaf I think, Emmanuel Macron is 5ft 7, my DH is 5ft8 but he looks bigger than that as has a broad chest and shoulders- not that this is particularly relevant to political leaders as he isn’t one!

TTPD · 25/04/2024 11:28

Goldenbear · 25/04/2024 11:05

Is he even that short, he doesn’t look really short, except when standing next to Cameron or someone quite tall. Was Boris Johnson very tall?

He's a couple of inches shorter than Johnson I think. He's about 5'6. Same as Zelensky apparently. And there was footage of him meeting Olaf Scholz yesterday who can't have been any taller really.

Alexandra2001 · 25/04/2024 11:28

Brilliant comment by Rayner, especially after Dowling made stupid and unproven remarks about her living arrangements.

For too long Labour have had to endure some pretty awful remarks from various Tory MPs/PMs.... and ARs comment was far less insulting than a Tory PM saying Starmer failed to prosecute Saville, which even some Tories thought was terrible.

Pint sized? of course he is but also i feel Rayner was also referring to his inability to run the country or his party.

Iwasafool · 25/04/2024 11:27

IClaudine · 25/04/2024 11:25

And he doesn't freeze his mouth into a rictus grin when speaking to ordinary people.

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Apart from a clip I remember when he met Trump he always looks comfortable and confident. I can forgive him the Trump moment as I can't imagine feeling comfortable with him.

IClaudine · 25/04/2024 11:25

Goldenbear · 25/04/2024 11:21

Also, Zelensky looks stronger and has stronger features and different expressions.

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And he doesn't freeze his mouth into a rictus grin when speaking to ordinary people.

Goldenbear · 25/04/2024 11:24

bombastix · 25/04/2024 11:10

I recall he did okay. Won a war or something...

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Yes😂

Goldenbear · 25/04/2024 11:23

CountingCrones · 25/04/2024 11:12

No, just wide. But loud and egotistical enough he seemed to take up far more space.

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Yes, the width, the overall bombastic approach makes someone appear bigger than they are.

Theresa May was actually only 5ft 6, again long legs made her look taller.

Goldenbear · 25/04/2024 11:21

Iwasafool · 25/04/2024 11:11

Sunak and Zelensky look about the same height. Which one comes across as pint sized? Sometimes we are thinking more about ability and courage rather than just focus on the physical aspect of size.

Also, Zelensky looks stronger and has stronger features and different expressions.

CountingCrones · 25/04/2024 11:12

Goldenbear · 25/04/2024 11:05

Is he even that short, he doesn’t look really short, except when standing next to Cameron or someone quite tall. Was Boris Johnson very tall?

No, just wide. But loud and egotistical enough he seemed to take up far more space.

Iwasafool · 25/04/2024 11:11

Sunak and Zelensky look about the same height. Which one comes across as pint sized? Sometimes we are thinking more about ability and courage rather than just focus on the physical aspect of size.

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