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To think no one is testing for Covid anymore?

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TwoTimesShoeShop · 24/04/2024 22:29

A work colleague has just messaged our team WhatsApp in a bit of a rant as they've got Covid. They are blaming it on someone who came into the office earlier this week with a blatant heavy cold thing. Colleague with cold is saying that they don't think it's Covid, but haven't tested and don't plan to, and that Covid colleague could have got it from anywhere.

It's now going into an argument about testing - a couple of people are still testing any time they get cold symptoms, but most are saying they won't bother. Covid colleague says we all need to test now as we were all in on Monday together for a meeting.

AIBU to think no one is testing anymore, and it's not necessary?

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pelotonaddiction · 25/04/2024 12:47

LittleBooThang · 25/04/2024 12:42

Crazy, paranoid people are still testing.

You've posted that just as someone has said they're housebound from long covid? That's why people are still testing

I don't really care what others do but I won't let anyone in my home who is unwell, no matter what with

LittleBooThang · 25/04/2024 12:46

Kandalama · 25/04/2024 12:43

Maybe either
wear a mask
or
tell people you have covid so anyone vulnerable or with vulnerable relatives or just doesn’t want to risk catching it can wear a mask themselves.

Taking protection is much the same as schools banning certain foodstuffs that can affect others severely.

Oh don’t be ridiculous. Masks are pointless and it’s nobody else’s business what others are ill with.

If you’re so anxious and paranoid about catching it then stay inside, don’t try and force others to behave how you want them to.

CKL987 · 25/04/2024 12:45

I would test if unwell due to household vulnerability but wouldn't expect others to.

Kandalama · 25/04/2024 12:43

x2boys · 25/04/2024 12:37

And what if people have to go to work ?
It's also incredibly selfish expecting people to not go to work and lose money etc because they have covid .

Maybe either
wear a mask
or
tell people you have covid so anyone vulnerable or with vulnerable relatives or just doesn’t want to risk catching it can wear a mask themselves.

Taking protection is much the same as schools banning certain foodstuffs that can affect others severely.

LittleBooThang · 25/04/2024 12:42

Crazy, paranoid people are still testing.

BeaRF75 · 25/04/2024 12:40

Of course not! Testing stopped 3 years ago and Covid is no big deal. Some people just like drama and enjoy being "ill".

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 25/04/2024 12:40

SallyWD · 25/04/2024 12:00

Yes I do realise that, but I've seen far more people with longer lasting effects of Covid than I have for flu or colds. All the people I've mentioned have had flu and colds before and been absolutely fine. My mum frequently has colds and flu and has never been hospitalised or close to death like she was with Covid. My two friends who are still suffering with long Covid were very fit, healthy and in their 40s. I work at a university and we've had several students drop out of their courses because of long Covid. I've never seen a single student drop out because of complications relating to flu. So I do believe there's a difference.

I’ve got Long Covid. Had it since July last year. Still can’t walk more than 15 paces and I’m totally housebound.

Everyonr who comes into our house tests. Dh tests everyday. I really do not want to get COVID on top of this.

Ive had flu 4 times. Its never affected me like this.

x2boys · 25/04/2024 12:37

Willyoujustbequiet · 25/04/2024 12:04

This

We still test. Repeated Covid can cause other health problems such as clotting issues. I don't know why you wouldn't want to know.

Plus we would then steer clear of people. I think it's incredibly selfish not to.

And what if people have to go to work ?
It's also incredibly selfish expecting people to not go to work and lose money etc because they have covid .

ICantThinkofAnythingClever · 25/04/2024 12:35

The ONS released their latest survey of Long Covid prevalence in the UK today. Over 2 million people are affected, or 3.3% of the population in England and Scotland. This is higher than the figures reported around same time last year (2.9%) and suggests Long Covid numbers will continue to grow even in this "mild Omicron" phase. I don't know if I can put the link here but you can find the report on the ONS website. Over 70% of those affected had it for more than a year, which suggests Long Covid is a long-term or potentially even permanent disability. Over 74% of those affected, or over 1.5 million people, said the condition affects their day-to-day life. Similar studies in other countries have shown even worse figures.

A basic math calculation shows that about 1 in every 31 people in England and Scotland have Long Covid now. This is not a low figure. It means the condition is common and widespread. While post-viral disease exists with other viruses in circulation, it is more common and severe with Covid by a wide margin.

Rationally, testing and taking some precautions (e.g. wearing a FPP2/FFP3 mask in crowds or on public transport) is logical behaviour, as it is low-cost and high-reward. Why wouldn't you want to take some steps towards avoiding disability for you and others? Nobody is saying we need to be locked down again, but testing, putting on a mask on an airplane or at the doctor's office is not difficult or harmful in any way for most people.

All public health crises were minimised at the beginning. AIDS was supposedly something only gay men could get. People used to believe smoking is good for your health. The doctor who discovered the importance of hand washing died in a mental asylum after being rejected and bullied by his entire professional field. I think Long Covid is a serious public health crisis and people who are taking it seriously are not stuck in 2020- all the contrary, they are early. Just because a majority is pretending the problem has gone away it doesn't mean they are correct.

Another thing worth mentioning is that once you are disabled, society will try to throw you on the trash heap and Rishi Sunak will write speeches about how useless you are. Those who bullied you to be "normal" and not worried about Covid like a weirdo will not take care of you. So be smart, take care of yourself.

WoshPank · 25/04/2024 12:32

RespiceFinemKarma · 25/04/2024 11:46

I don't know @WoshPank - we had a halcyon time where people wouldn't go into work if they were sick out of respect for others (not just re covid), just a general acceptance this was The Right Thing To Do. It feels since the economy has had more pressure we've been encouraged to get to work whatever and that idea has gone by the wayside. It could just as easily come back.

That was the narrative, but it never quite worked like that in practice when you dug down. Indy SAGE had some good data on this. Adherence with isolation was always very patchy, even at the height of the pandemic. Data they had here said full self isolation was less than 20%.

https://www.independentsage.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Crime-and-punishment-John-4.1-1.pdf

I know INDY Sage are controversial in many ways, But they were very pro testing and isolation, so I'm inclined to trust criticisms they have of the way those policies worked in practice. Bear in mind this is from early 2021, so the height of the pandemic when most people hadn't yet been vaccinated or had covid, and when they were breaking the law by not isolating.

https://www.independentsage.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Crime-and-punishment-John-4.1-1.pdf

Rumors1 · 25/04/2024 12:17

@Allnormalhere I had the 3 vaccines before catching it. The illness itself wasn't bad, just like a bad cold with fatigue. It was the after effects of it that floored me. Worst flare up of arthritis that I have had. I worked from home during the illness but needed over a week off for the flare up.

mindutopia · 25/04/2024 12:06

I would test if I thought I had COVID (for me, the symptoms are different than a cold and I tend to know if I have it). COVID is like the flu to me. I wouldn't go spreading the flu around if I knew I had it. A cold would be different.

But yes, I probably would test if I felt very unwell and was going to be commuting into work on a busy train or seeing clinically vulnerable MIL. I'd test for lots of things in those situations if there was an at-home test in my cupboard.

Agentdanascullyx · 25/04/2024 12:04

I currently have it now for about the 6th time, I tested as last time my mum caught it she was in hospital for weeks. Pretty sure I caught it from the hospital as a few people were in an isolation room ( then were walked out through the reception so seemed pointless)

Willyoujustbequiet · 25/04/2024 12:04

pelotonaddiction · 24/04/2024 22:36

That ^^
Still test if I feel unwell, can still get anti virals

This

We still test. Repeated Covid can cause other health problems such as clotting issues. I don't know why you wouldn't want to know.

Plus we would then steer clear of people. I think it's incredibly selfish not to.

SallyWD · 25/04/2024 12:00

Allnormalhere · 25/04/2024 10:28

You do know all these things can also happen with the flu? But then it's called "post viral fatigue" rather than "Long flu". Vulnerable and the old and young can and do die from the flu, but we've lived with that without testing for years...

Yes I do realise that, but I've seen far more people with longer lasting effects of Covid than I have for flu or colds. All the people I've mentioned have had flu and colds before and been absolutely fine. My mum frequently has colds and flu and has never been hospitalised or close to death like she was with Covid. My two friends who are still suffering with long Covid were very fit, healthy and in their 40s. I work at a university and we've had several students drop out of their courses because of long Covid. I've never seen a single student drop out because of complications relating to flu. So I do believe there's a difference.

Oakstreet · 25/04/2024 11:49

FrenchandSaunders · 25/04/2024 11:01

And all these people saying there are fully vaccinated but were still very unwell with covid .... what was the point ... genuine question!

Never had the vaccine. Never hsd covid. Tested once. Felt sick twice since 2017 and common sense told me to stay at home, had some honey, lenon tea ajd some steam sessions and in less than a week was well again. No where in the real life is anyone like this, going on about testing.

I'm sure journalists start these threads to see how many are just not getting on with their lives over a heavy cold. More concerning is the increase in more serious conditions happening

ohtowinthelottery · 25/04/2024 11:48

DH works with clinically vulnerable people so carried on testing for a lot longer than most folk but I can't even remember the last time he tested - in fact I threw most of the tests away because they'd gone out of date.

And tests are still available to buy - I saw them stacked up on the Pharmacy counter at our Tesco Extra the other day.

Unless your colleague is extremely clinically vulnerable they are being absolutely bonkers to expect others to test. If they want to protect themselves perhaps they should wear a mask!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/04/2024 11:48

Some of us never did test, OP - as with any bug we just stayed away from others if we caught something, took the paracetamol and so on

Obviously it's different for the very vulnerable who need to know exactly what's going on, but for the vast majority far too much was made of it all IMO

RespiceFinemKarma · 25/04/2024 11:46

I don't know @WoshPank - we had a halcyon time where people wouldn't go into work if they were sick out of respect for others (not just re covid), just a general acceptance this was The Right Thing To Do. It feels since the economy has had more pressure we've been encouraged to get to work whatever and that idea has gone by the wayside. It could just as easily come back.

pelotonaddiction · 25/04/2024 11:44

FrenchandSaunders · 25/04/2024 11:00

Nope, doesn't enter my head. Think I've only had two tests over the entire period.

That figure for 96 people dying of covid last week ..... I'd love to know how many of those were very old with lots of issues anyway that would have killed them ... much like the statistics that were published in the height of the pandemic to scare the shit out of everyone.

Is this not going back to the 2020 "well they had existing health conditions anyway"

WoshPank · 25/04/2024 11:44

RespiceFinemKarma · 25/04/2024 11:34

I do think the govt is responsible for the narrative here though - if they were accepting long covid is a huge factor in the current employment situation they could reframe it to help those suffering and encourage public to be more conscious of those weaker than them. It's not a mandatory thing, but a realisation. Hiding the evidence as they are is helping no one.

Mmm, I'm just not sure about that tbh.

They don't have the moral authority after Partygate. That part is their own fault entirely, true. We're talking about a dead government walking. They can't say shit to anyone without being told to call an election.

But also, there's a limit to how much people will go along with voluntarily limiting their behaviour. There's no appetite for continuing widespread testing and isolation amongst the public, and it's not immediately obvious what person or body inspires enough trust to change that.

AngelsWithSilverWings · 25/04/2024 11:38

I still test if I have symptoms.

My DD is immunosuppressed and my MIL is having chemotherapy.

My friend's husband died a week after his positive test last year - he was early 50's. I still believe there is a risk to vulnerable people.

RespiceFinemKarma · 25/04/2024 11:34

WoshPank · 25/04/2024 10:43

TBH I don't think it would be within the government's power to have a general public who were mostly willing to test and isolate, four years into the pandemic. Adherence to isolation was always pretty patchy, even at the height of covid when free tests were everywhere. People just weren't having it any more.

Part of this is the appalling sick pay situation. There were always people who weren't able to isolate when positive because they didn't have the money, even when they were committing a crime if they didn't. So the government could've helped in that respect.

But when it comes to people voluntarily accepting restrictions on their lives, which is what they're doing if they test and stay at home, willingness to do that isn't something a government can impose. People have to want to do it.

I do think the govt is responsible for the narrative here though - if they were accepting long covid is a huge factor in the current employment situation they could reframe it to help those suffering and encourage public to be more conscious of those weaker than them. It's not a mandatory thing, but a realisation. Hiding the evidence as they are is helping no one.

Selttan · 25/04/2024 11:32

I still test but that's because my mum has cancer.

Otherwise I'd just stay home if I had symptoms without testing since I can work from home.

PizzaPowder · 25/04/2024 11:29

I think i've tested maybe 3 or 4 times all in.

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