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To think no one is testing for Covid anymore?

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TwoTimesShoeShop · 24/04/2024 22:29

A work colleague has just messaged our team WhatsApp in a bit of a rant as they've got Covid. They are blaming it on someone who came into the office earlier this week with a blatant heavy cold thing. Colleague with cold is saying that they don't think it's Covid, but haven't tested and don't plan to, and that Covid colleague could have got it from anywhere.

It's now going into an argument about testing - a couple of people are still testing any time they get cold symptoms, but most are saying they won't bother. Covid colleague says we all need to test now as we were all in on Monday together for a meeting.

AIBU to think no one is testing anymore, and it's not necessary?

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JontyFleu · 04/07/2024 11:54

Current Government and NHS advice (2024) states that if you have a positive result to distance yourself for 5 days.

Heavy cold, flu or Covid... Keep germs away from folk if possible.

Craftysue · 23/05/2024 17:53

I have a compromised immune system - I was sent a box of tests. If I have symptoms I test and if it's positive I need to call a helpline and I'm sent anti virals. I've not had COVID yet but it could really impact my health. I carry on as normal but I know people with my condition who are still scared to go out etc.

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 23/05/2024 17:43

Been a couple of years since I tested and I don't know anyone else who does.

Graveltone · 23/05/2024 17:42

People are too tight to pay for the test kits.

Chocolateorange22 · 23/05/2024 17:40

My husband is one of those extremely vulnerable who had to shield people.

We do still both test if we have cold symptoms. Only because he can then notify his consultant and get advice on whether he needs antivirals or to be admitted. He gets the vaccine every time he's called up, we can't really do much more. Apart from having to take immunosuppressants he is fit and well with no other conditions.

We don't avoid people who have colds or test our kids. We all have to get back on with life the best that we can. We know what actions we need to take as a family, it's more extreme than others but we can't hide away any longer.

zackmills · 23/05/2024 17:30

tuvamoodyson · 25/04/2024 17:58

But if you are unwell, you wouldn’t meet up with vulnerable people anyway, would only not meet up it it was covid? So, what is the point of testing?

Good afternoon.
I'm a cardiologist at an NHS hospital in England.

Covid19 (SARS) is often silent. You can be infected and spread it to others, such as vulnerable people, despite feeling fine yourself. This is the point of testing when visiting a vulnerable person or group.

There are many ignorant comments in this thread; likely because people do not understand covid19 even after years of information being available. I expect the current attitude is due to lack of covid19 in the news, which is understandable.

There is emerging evidence from long term studies in England, Scotland, Canada and the US that around 20% to 40% of people with covid19 asymptomatically (no symptoms felt) or mild (recover at home) have a much higher risk of cardiovascular problems within 2 years of infection. If you are getting infected with covid19 once or twice every year, this risk rises and rises and does not decrease.

A cold does not increase your risk of heart damage, heart diseases, lung issues, asthma and a whole host of other diseases, neither does the flu. Covid19 is SARS - severe acute respiratory syndrome.

The symptoms you feel might be a cold with a lot of fatigue, then you recover, but you cannot feel the damage being caused in your veins, blood, muscles and organs. Most people it seems now mistake their acute symptoms felt as finishing and so, for them, the covid19 infection is over. This couldn't be further from the truth in a high percentage of random people studied. Many comments here are pretending covid is just a cold, but unfortunately it has now emerged that the underlying damage is beyond what we could have expected.

You might be familiar with Dr.Rae Duncan, based at Newcastle NHS, who has been researching and warning of this. I would urge people to understand that the pandemic has not been declared over and your desire covid19 was just a cold or is gone does not mean this is the case.

Dr.Duncan appeared recently on the BBC and explained the summary of the studies for mild and asymptomatic cases and the high volume of negative impacts found in people who think it was just a cold and did to harm them otherwise. Extrapolate this to the UK population and realise it is possible that the iceberg we are heading towards is large.

BBC interview with Dr.Rae Duncan. Please note the mention of harm to people without longcovid who have no symptoms of covid or a mild case:

BBC interview with Dr Rae Duncan discussing Long Covid

Consultant Cardiologist, Dr Rae Duncan interviewed on BBC’s Sunday Show by Martin Geissler. Dr Duncan explains that a SARS-CoV-2 infection is not just a col...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIxbiogyF38

pelotonaddiction · 26/04/2024 13:41

SkyBloo · 26/04/2024 10:40

Not from the government but yeah individuals may be advised to by their doctors/consultants

Specific to covid though? Or in the way that (for example) cancer patients have long been advised to due to lack of immune post chemo?

I was really unwell with covid so my consultant has advised me to take as many precautions as I can as my immune system doesn't function

SkyBloo · 26/04/2024 10:40

Not from the government but yeah individuals may be advised to by their doctors/consultants

Specific to covid though? Or in the way that (for example) cancer patients have long been advised to due to lack of immune post chemo?

SkyBloo · 26/04/2024 10:39

I and many other don't have an immune system following chemotherapy or due to immunosuppressive medication.
What don't you understand about that?
I've had 6 covid vaccines and not one of them has given me any antibodies. I was too ill to have the last 2 boosters but they wouldn't have worked anyway.

Is this specific to covid? Surely you are just at risk from all the other viruses - adenoviruses, noroviruses, flu etc. All of these can be mild in healthy folk and deadly to the vulnerable (my premature baby was seriously unwell due to an adenovirus).

pelotonaddiction · 26/04/2024 08:54

SkyBloo · 26/04/2024 08:53

I wasnt aware that there was still any medical advicd for CEV people to shield? Is there actually?

Not from the government but yeah individuals may be advised to by their doctors/consultants

SkyBloo · 26/04/2024 08:53

I wasnt aware that there was still any medical advicd for CEV people to shield? Is there actually?

TwoTimesShoeShop · 26/04/2024 08:35

Great discussion, thanks, didn't expect so many replies.

I hadn't really considered, or had forgotten, how different Covid can be in the repercussions for some people, so I went out to buy some tests yesterday and I'm negative. I'm glad I know now though.

I agree that Cold Colleague should really have stayed at home, we had an important client presentation and they had a crucial bit that we would have struggled to cover otherwise so I understand why they did.

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MissBedelia · 25/04/2024 23:23

exomoon · 25/04/2024 22:19

I test Covid for every cold as I’ve had a free supply of tests. I won’t be buying any tests when the free ones stop.

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They are probably out of date

exomoon · 25/04/2024 22:19

I test Covid for every cold as I’ve had a free supply of tests. I won’t be buying any tests when the free ones stop.

Samlewis96 · 25/04/2024 21:51

Sharptonguedwoman · 25/04/2024 10:18

Everyone should test. Some people, like me are immunosupressed and our lives may depend on other people being careful. It's basic good manners.

But testing isn't going to help on its own. And people still have to work even if they test positive

ZiriForGood · 25/04/2024 18:30

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 25/04/2024 17:23

I wonder if some people will ever get past the fear. I have scored full house on my covid bingo card on this thread.

Many people won't be ever worried about anything.

ZiriForGood · 25/04/2024 18:28

tigger1001 · 25/04/2024 07:56

That's just such a blac and white answer. Real life, though, isn't black and white.

Not everyone can wfh (including some office workers)
Not all employers have a great sick pay package, meaning people will go to work ill as they can't afford to be off.
Some might be worried about facing disciplinary meetings if been off sick previously.

And that's just a few reasons as to why people go into work when they are under the weather. It's such a luxury to be able to view it as antisocial.

I know not everyone can work for home, but majority of office people can.
I can amend my previous statement as "it is antisocial to spread germs when there is a choice".
It is very frustrating that all it takes is one selfish twat to make ill half of the others.

paulhollywoodshairgel · 25/04/2024 18:23

I still test. There's a girl in my work whose husband is immunosuppressed and she sent an email asking if we would if we suspected we had it. Also a girl who is pregnant. So I guess it's different for everyone.

tuvamoodyson · 25/04/2024 17:58

Overlyanxious · 25/04/2024 08:57

I test as I like to know if I have it or not. Also means I can avoid any vulnerable people I know.

But if you are unwell, you wouldn’t meet up with vulnerable people anyway, would only not meet up it it was covid? So, what is the point of testing?

WoshPank · 25/04/2024 17:51

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 25/04/2024 17:48

Would be interesting to know what costs the government more.

Sick pay for covid absence or loss of revenue through so many people with Long Covid.

Short termism at its finest. They had millions to spunk on dodgy contracts and piss poor, structurally unfair laws. But proper sick pay, nah, can't have that one. The peasants might get too used to it!

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 25/04/2024 17:48

WoshPank · 25/04/2024 17:44

I just can't conceive of any framing that would make the public inclined to listen to Sunak and co on the issue. He's about as well respected as herpes.

They're all incompetent and most of them spent months refusing to do anything about Boris repeatedly lying to the Commons about his lockdown breaches. If they try and tell anyone what they ought to be doing now, they'll be laughed out. Rightly so.

Your use of the term practical is right, I think. We need structural change, like better sick pay. Not words.

Would be interesting to know what costs the government more.

Sick pay for covid absence or loss of revenue through so many people with Long Covid.

WoshPank · 25/04/2024 17:44

RespiceFinemKarma · 25/04/2024 15:33

I agree I may have been in a conscientious bubble post covid. It did just seem for a few months people were more tolerant and appreciative of each other, for a short while at least. Post lockdown syndrome of sorts.

The want to isolate isn't there partly because of framing, to my mind. The gov is framing the lack of workers as scroungers wanting benefits rather than realistically explaining that it is partly MH and partly long-covid that have caused the increase in unemployment. I don't blame them, because it is largely their fault both spiralled so badly. If they were more down to earth and practical they'd be doing more to actually help the situation, rather than blaming some magical employable dosser who lives the life of riley on PIP through choice.

I just can't conceive of any framing that would make the public inclined to listen to Sunak and co on the issue. He's about as well respected as herpes.

They're all incompetent and most of them spent months refusing to do anything about Boris repeatedly lying to the Commons about his lockdown breaches. If they try and tell anyone what they ought to be doing now, they'll be laughed out. Rightly so.

Your use of the term practical is right, I think. We need structural change, like better sick pay. Not words.

MissBedelia · 25/04/2024 17:38

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 25/04/2024 17:23

I wonder if some people will ever get past the fear. I have scored full house on my covid bingo card on this thread.

It’s really sad.

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 25/04/2024 17:23

I wonder if some people will ever get past the fear. I have scored full house on my covid bingo card on this thread.

Flopsythebunny · 25/04/2024 17:12

StarbucksQueen1 · 25/04/2024 15:57

Why?
This is ridiculous!
Until someone says ‘Covid has gone, come back out of hiding?!’ It’s such a waste of your life!!

I and many other don't have an immune system following chemotherapy or due to immunosuppressive medication.
What don't you understand about that?
I've had 6 covid vaccines and not one of them has given me any antibodies. I was too ill to have the last 2 boosters but they wouldn't have worked anyway.