Male Nursery Staff

Trawling through for links is ridiculous, similar links have been posted for female nursery workers.

Being male does not make you a risk to children by default. We have laws to protect workers from discrimination and the OP really should think about doing her own childcare if she doesn’t feel she can abide by such laws.

@Crystallizedring

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/28/devon-nursery-worker-found-guilty-of-sexually-assaulting-children

@Chocaloc

Is the ideal, but it can happen. Nurseries are very busy, a member of staff off ill can mean that procedures aren’t always followed. The nursery linked above was deemed to have good safeguarding procedures by OFSTED.

No member of staff male or female would be alone. Both are regarded to be the same as regards risk. Men are not banned from intimate care any more than women are but both sexes would always need to do intimate care with somebody else.

What are you talking about?

So now all male staff are akin to perpetrators in the Rotherham case. That is discrimination. Male staff should not be made to feel like that and it’s not ok for the op and others similar to whip up a witch hunt like this.

Who says? If the has an accident at school it will be whichever members of staff are available. Primary schools have male staff and there are plenty of occasions in early years and above when support is needed as regards toileting.

Well this is how crbs work. You get all the applicants in a room, flash-up a scenario and then ask them how could we prevent child abuse in this situation.

You then write down the names of who is actively participating. They don't get a crb. Those making paper aeroplanes or banging on about how we can't suspect the person in the example because of equality/intersectionality/transphobia get a crb.

You then do a media trawl and anyone who likes anything remotely old or pearl clutchy gets cut.

True story bro.

What a bizarre take

I wouldn't like it either.
Just change nurseries

The most troubling thing about this thread is that the people who believe they are ‘safeguarding’ children from men are the ones sexualising them.

I doubt the statistics regarding race are anywhere near as dramatic and consistent as sex. A cursory look at UK statistics shows a modest difference and then goes into other details that intersect with this.

Thing is, we do make judgements like this all the time. For example teachers are going to be far less wary of a white family claiming to take a female child out for a 'holiday' in the middle of term late ks1 early KS2 than a Muslim family taking a girl out for similar reasons due to fgm being prevalent in that culture.

Safeguarding has to trump sensitivities otherwise you get preventable situations like Rotherham or the fact fgm was tolerated till way too recently I'm this country.

@ToryHater I agree. Another example - in order to eliminate risk of terrorist attacks during the rise of Isis, all Muslims could have been locked away as statistically all suicide bombers were Islamic.

Black men are statistically much more likely to commit violent crime than white men , so would it be okay to exclude black men from certain jobs on tjis basis? Women are much more likely to be off work sick so, would it be okay for an emplyer to have a policy of not putting any women in responsible jobs?

Your being ridiculous. Those male staff undergo the exact same background check as any female staff. Those men could well be fathers. Has your child ever been changed by their father in their life? This is no different, it is their job.

Ah yes and male teachers have NEVER done anything to children either 😒

You can't leave thirty children unsupervised.
Not enough time or space for individual changing.
Generally teachers do light admin/behaviour management whilst children are getting changed by KS2 (a surprising number of children need help before then)

Even their own kids?

I’ve also worked with male teachers in KS1 - but in all cases, they deferred to a female to change a child, or left the class if girls were changing for PE.

I would hope that, unless a child needs specific help, by KS1 no teacher was watching any child change...

You stalked a staff members social media, and he is the creepy one?

Okay.

I’d be withdrawing my child. No way on God’s Green Earth should men be toileting and changing babies and toddlers. Withdraw your child immediately.

It's true men are more likely to rape and kill but have there been many cases where a male nursery nurse has raped or killed a female?
I really don't get the I don't want a random man changing my child but am fine for a random female to do it.
Anyone is a risk to your child.
Pay and conditions in early years are awful, there is only one reason why anyone goes in to that job. I'll let you work out the reason.

@shattereddreams1 to be honest I find it very strange that you would not change your child's nappy in front of her Grandad. Do you ask him to leave the room? Does that mean your child can't be babysat by Grandad at all for fear of a dirty nappy. I think that's really sad for both your child and their grandfather.

It should always be in the presence of others. Safeguarding should never be lax just because a woman is doing the caring.

My sons keyworker is male and I’m happy for him to change nappies. He’s just doing his job.