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Male Nursery Staff

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herei · 24/04/2024 15:59

My child is in Nursery after my return to work. They nursery chain have been hiring make staff recently. My child's nursery has 3 male staff.

My daughter's nappy was changed by a male member of staff. For my own personal reasons I feel upset about this but not sure if I can even say or do anything. I just don't like it.

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TTPD · 24/04/2024 16:36

Op, I would want to know from the nursery what processes are in place to mitigate the risk to your child. Is there CCTV in all areas, including the changing areas? Is there an arrangement so staff are never alone with children during nappy changes?

Wouldn't you want this anyway? Regardless of the sex of the staff? Our nursery doesn't currently have any male staff members (although they did when DD1 started 4 years ago), and the changing area is in the main room, in view. It's sort of behind a half height wall and gate to keep children out but anyone changing a nappy is visible to other staff members.

Mumof1andacat · 24/04/2024 16:36

If you don't like, move to another nursery

LeaderBee · 24/04/2024 16:35

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This is absolutely not a normal view.
I feel for any of the single dads reading this, what if their partner died in childbirth and they are the sole caregiver?

Disgusting paedo, better go pick the kid up from the adoption agency when he hits the legal age of consent.

SMH.

thisiswheretheseagullfliesaway · 24/04/2024 16:35

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Really? My lovely dad changed my nappy, fed me and looked after me every bit as much as my mother did in the 70s because they were a team. My DH and I were the same in the noughties.

A friend's child had a male childminder he was awesome and they're still in touch.

LambertndButler · 24/04/2024 16:34

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Curlyblondefemale · 24/04/2024 16:34

I get where you're coming from so I hate to point this out but the last case I recall about a worker abusing children in a nursery was actually a woman (Vanessa George) New rules were put in place after this to prevent others doing the same.
I didn't want anyone changing my sons nappy because of my past experiences so I waited until he was fully toilet trained (2 and a half years) before I went back to work.
You could try speaking to the nursery to see if that lessens your anxiety or maybe you'd feel more comfortable with a childminder rather than a nursery.

notthatperson · 24/04/2024 16:34

anon4net · 24/04/2024 16:29

I wish I could say differently but honestly I'm absolutely not comfortable with this either @herei

For those saying they have police checks, the majority of people have clean records, it doesn't mean they are safe. It means they haven't been convicted of a crime. And we all know that many unsafe people seek out working with children and work in nurseries, schools, churches, hobbies, sport etc.

Also, offenders can change their names at any time

TTPD · 24/04/2024 16:34

Obviously the vast majority of men aren’t paedos but statistically it is more likely. I just wonder at their motivations

I don't really see why you don't seem to consider it possible that they have the same motivations as female nursery staff.

notthatperson · 24/04/2024 16:33

herei · 24/04/2024 16:28

I know my view is likely unreasonable but I just seen the make name against my child's record for nappy changing and I'm shocked by my reaction.

There seems to be some males on other nursery's they are trying to be more equally now I guess.

I don't even let other family members change my child's nappy but a male staff member I've never met can do this.

There is supposed to be a 2 staff member ratio but I've seen staff walking out of nappy area alone before. The baby room which is the youngest room, the nappy area is at the back and out of view. The rest of the rooms I'm more comfortable with as more open.

I want to cry I don't want a man touching my child, I don't want a man rubbing cream on my child's genitals

Then take your child out and report to ofsted.

I am comfortable with most of the male staff at my daughters nursery but there was a temp one summer who I was a bit un easy about being there. I was reassured when a staff member told me no temps do nappy changes. You need to talk to the staff.

mt9m · 24/04/2024 16:32

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Are you over 70? Or the victim of an abusive relationship and a very limited social circle?

MalibuBarbieDreamHouse · 24/04/2024 16:30

Divebar2021 · 24/04/2024 16:15

Related males are much less of a risk than unrelated males

the biggest perpetrators of SA are relatives or friends of the family - step fathers ( or someone in that position like mums boyfriend) other male relatives like uncles and grandfathers and fathers who have not lived with a child.

Spot on. Can’t believe people would write whatever suits their agenda regardless if it’s true or not!

Wilfrida1 · 24/04/2024 16:30

herei · 24/04/2024 16:28

I know my view is likely unreasonable but I just seen the make name against my child's record for nappy changing and I'm shocked by my reaction.

There seems to be some males on other nursery's they are trying to be more equally now I guess.

I don't even let other family members change my child's nappy but a male staff member I've never met can do this.

There is supposed to be a 2 staff member ratio but I've seen staff walking out of nappy area alone before. The baby room which is the youngest room, the nappy area is at the back and out of view. The rest of the rooms I'm more comfortable with as more open.

I want to cry I don't want a man touching my child, I don't want a man rubbing cream on my child's genitals

Then remove her from the nursery NOW instead of wailing on here. It's so easy to solve!

anon4net · 24/04/2024 16:29

I wish I could say differently but honestly I'm absolutely not comfortable with this either @herei

For those saying they have police checks, the majority of people have clean records, it doesn't mean they are safe. It means they haven't been convicted of a crime. And we all know that many unsafe people seek out working with children and work in nurseries, schools, churches, hobbies, sport etc.

lightbulb101 · 24/04/2024 16:29

I'd be concerned too. The majority of peadophiles are men and just because they have a clean DBS check doesn't mean they are innocent it just means they haven't been caught.

herei · 24/04/2024 16:28

I know my view is likely unreasonable but I just seen the make name against my child's record for nappy changing and I'm shocked by my reaction.

There seems to be some males on other nursery's they are trying to be more equally now I guess.

I don't even let other family members change my child's nappy but a male staff member I've never met can do this.

There is supposed to be a 2 staff member ratio but I've seen staff walking out of nappy area alone before. The baby room which is the youngest room, the nappy area is at the back and out of view. The rest of the rooms I'm more comfortable with as more open.

I want to cry I don't want a man touching my child, I don't want a man rubbing cream on my child's genitals

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Rubbish. We had a male teacher in our school nursery for a few years. He was excellent and the children and parents thought very highly of him. Some children really need a good male role model apart from anything else.

LambertndButler · 24/04/2024 16:26

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lemonyfox · 24/04/2024 16:26

There are 3 male staff members in my sons nursery and I think it's great. They're actually his favourite teachers.

Wilfrida1 · 24/04/2024 16:26

OP, you have obviously had some personal trauma in the past, and I am sorry. But surely if that were so, you would have taken the time and trouble to research your daughter's potential nursery better to ensure there were no male staff?

And women can abuse too - look what happened at that nursery in Plymouth.

Bottom line is thouh - YOU put her in a nursery with male staff, which you now say you don't want. So it's up to you to remove her.

SpringYay · 24/04/2024 16:26

Gymmum82 · 24/04/2024 16:21

Incorrect. You are much more likely to be sexually abused by a family member than an unrelated male

Unfortunately this is true.

SpringYay · 24/04/2024 16:25

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What? Do Dads just not do parenting until Primary then?
I'd welcome some gender balance in my kid's nursery, alas it's all women. ..

ToryHater · 24/04/2024 16:23

*At my DC's nurseries, nappy changing is always done in an open area. There is limited privacy for the child, but it means for the sake of the DC AND for the staff, they are visible to others, and visible on the CCTV (but genital area is NOT visible).

Surely the genital area is what you need to see to detect abuse??
When you say n appies are changed in an' open area' with limited privacy, is that not a hygiene risk?

SparklyCyanNewt · 24/04/2024 16:23

If you aren't happy move nurseries.

We had a couple of men working at our nursery and they were amazing. It's great for young children to see men in caring roles. When one of the men left the kids were way more upset than when some of the women left as he always "played the best games" according to my DC. Positive male role models are so important

Gymmum82 · 24/04/2024 16:21

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Incorrect. You are much more likely to be sexually abused by a family member than an unrelated male

Magicmushroomsauce · 24/04/2024 16:20

My son goes to nursery where there is a male nursery worker. After some initial concerns (just because male EY workers are not the norm) I’ve really come round to it, my son has fairly limited male role models (apart from his Dad, my DH). So it’s great he gets to build a relationship with another.

All nursery workers, whether male or female will be subject to the same checks and safeguarding protocols.