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Male Nursery Staff

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herei · 24/04/2024 15:59

My child is in Nursery after my return to work. They nursery chain have been hiring make staff recently. My child's nursery has 3 male staff.

My daughter's nappy was changed by a male member of staff. For my own personal reasons I feel upset about this but not sure if I can even say or do anything. I just don't like it.

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tuvamoodyson · 24/04/2024 17:51

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Vanessa George.

Prawncow · 24/04/2024 17:51

I was abused as a child by a man who I know went on to work in a nursery (and a choir with young children, and also coaching children’s sports…sense a pattern

I’m sorry that happened to you. Paedophiles actively seek out access to children. It’s not a coincidence that they end up with jobs/ volunteer positions that allow them to get close to children. That’s why I’d be wary of male nursery staff.

RemarkablyBrightCreature · 24/04/2024 17:50

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Your ignorance is startling. This simply isn’t true and is a dangerous and naive view.

Higglings · 24/04/2024 17:49

herei · 24/04/2024 15:59

Sorry for spellings I meant Male

Op I'm with you on this, I'd feel unhappy too. I think you need to take your child away and find a female staff only nursery.

mummyh2016 · 24/04/2024 17:48

I don't think nursery is for you. They haven't done anything wrong. If you're not comfortable with it that's on you.

Concretejungle1 · 24/04/2024 17:47

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you do realised RELATED males are the biggest cause of sexual abuse?
as for no male midwives 😶
i’d rather male midwives and nursery staff than someone like you looking after kids with this attitude.

Prawncow · 24/04/2024 17:47

I wouldn’t be happy. Yes, women can be abusers but the vast majority are male. Statistically, if a child has male carers they’re at a higher risk of being sexually abused.

Sauvblanctime · 24/04/2024 17:44

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You know these kids have Dads? Granddads? Uncles??

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 24/04/2024 17:43

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I would have loved a few male staff when my son was at nursery.
You’re ridiculous.

Anovelname · 24/04/2024 17:41

I was abused as a child by a man who I know went on to work in a nursery (and a choir with young children, and also coaching children’s sports…sense a pattern there?!). I reported it to the police, but nothing seemed to come of it (I’m guessing as it was historic).

So no, I would not be happy with this. Perhaps it’s unfair, but I don’t care about fairness when it comes to my child’s safety.

Dolly567 · 24/04/2024 17:38

I'm sorry but it's strange.
Not a chance.

Desecratedcoconut · 24/04/2024 17:36

PietariKontio · 24/04/2024 17:29

No-one said it wouldn't happen, just that with proper safeguarding it's preventable. As a parent, we should be more concerned about safeguarding processes than the sex of the workers. I could easily find lots of female abusers of early years age children, would that disprove that women are safe?

Look at the figures for abuse in elderly care, how many of them are female? Again, what protects vulnerable people isn't the sex mix of the staff, it's the policies and procedures in place, and how both the leaders of the service ensure that they are followed, and how every staff member is vigilant.

Without them, kids are at risk from women and men, and removing men may make your kids safer, but they will not be completely safe unless the practice ensures it, in which case the sex of staff is irrelevant.

What's all this, we should?

Parents can observe that sex is the most striking variable in determining patterns of criminality and in seeking out vulnerable victims. And then they can decide if that changes their own risk mitigating strategies.

pinksheetss · 24/04/2024 17:29

I feel really sorry for the posters who believe men have no place there and automatically assume something sinister about a male changing children's nappies. It really does suggest a lot about that persons mind and it's a shame they live life feeling that way

As someone who puts her dd to private nursery... when you put your child to nursery you have to trust that EVERY person is background checked and safe around children. Females included.

PietariKontio · 24/04/2024 17:29

AlpineMuesli · 24/04/2024 16:58

Haven’t rtft but had a quick google as many seem certain this can’t happen and this was the 4th story down.

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/nursery-worker-abused-young-children-9235926.amp

No-one said it wouldn't happen, just that with proper safeguarding it's preventable. As a parent, we should be more concerned about safeguarding processes than the sex of the workers. I could easily find lots of female abusers of early years age children, would that disprove that women are safe?

Look at the figures for abuse in elderly care, how many of them are female? Again, what protects vulnerable people isn't the sex mix of the staff, it's the policies and procedures in place, and how both the leaders of the service ensure that they are followed, and how every staff member is vigilant.

Without them, kids are at risk from women and men, and removing men may make your kids safer, but they will not be completely safe unless the practice ensures it, in which case the sex of staff is irrelevant.

FridayForever · 24/04/2024 17:23

I think PP is right, and the only way to avoid this is to look after your child yourself, or pay a nanny. Neither may be financially viable - i think we as a society need to make it so that families can choose a SAHP and still afford to live. You shouldn't be in a position where you're scared for your child but have no option.

leopardsnowleopard · 24/04/2024 17:23

IntermittentFarting · 24/04/2024 17:17

I wouldn't be happy with a man I'd never met rubbing cream on my baby daughter's vulva with his hands either.

I couldn't care less how unreasonable that makes me.

They wear gloves

fungipie · 24/04/2024 17:20

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Oh my- I had my boys in the 80s, and nieces at that time too. Dads were all very involved from birth with everything. Well I chose to BF, so no bottles, but everything else.

2024 and xou make such a medieval comment. And I am sorry, but NO, this is NOT normal.

If you don't want a male doctor, nurse, midwife of carer for your child- then what can I say. For the childcare, your choice will be to do it yourself. I for one am delighted men are now seen and doing so well in such jobs and being great role models for our boys and now our grandchildren.

Moveoverdarlin · 24/04/2024 17:20

Warrantedrab · 24/04/2024 16:05

If you’re not happy move nurseries.

There’s no point in moving for the sole reason of male staff. My children went to different nurseries and both have had male key workers. You could be forever moving if you up and leave every time a male is hired.

I understand your discomfort OP but I think you’ll get used to it very quickly.

BirtyDird · 24/04/2024 17:17

@LambertndButler Dads don’t tend to get involved until their progeny can throw and catch..

What a load of tosh.

IntermittentFarting · 24/04/2024 17:17

I wouldn't be happy with a man I'd never met rubbing cream on my baby daughter's vulva with his hands either.

I couldn't care less how unreasonable that makes me.

strawberryjeans · 24/04/2024 17:16

YABVU. She is massively more at risk from her own father, grandfather and uncle (whether you want to believe this or not).

BirtyDird · 24/04/2024 17:16

When we went to look at local nurseries,a couple had one or two men working there. I do think it's more common now.

If you aren't comfortable with it could you consider a childminder instead?

SoItGoes221 · 24/04/2024 17:14

CaptainCarrotsBigSword · 24/04/2024 16:10

I wouldn't like it either.

Not all men are sex offenders. But nearly all sex offenders are men. And sex offenders will seek out employment where they can access their victims.

Op, I would want to know from the nursery what processes are in place to mitigate the risk to your child. Is there CCTV in all areas, including the changing areas? Is there an arrangement so staff are never alone with children during nappy changes?

The risk of sexual abuse to the infants in their care is increased by having male staff. That is not pearl clutching hyperbole, that is simple facts based off crime data & patterns of offending. They need to have things in place to reduce this risk back to where it would be if all the staff were female. (Beyond what would be in place if all staff were female.)

If they don't, I would move my child.

Exactly this

ToryHater · 24/04/2024 17:10

I have no issue with male childcare staff or teachers. But I wouldn't have a male do my child's nappy changing no.

Do you understand that any setting which employs males would not lawfully be able to agree to that?

Notimeforaname · 24/04/2024 17:09

Take your child out then.

A woman could hurt your child just as much as a man could.

If someone was uncomfortable with a woman working in a certain profession and only wanted males (or if someone said females have no place there) there would be uproar and wouldnt be accepted.

I worked in a nursery abroad for a few years and met my now very good male friend there. A lovely, kind, intelligent, hard working man.
It was disgraceful the way parents looked at him like he was scum every day, talked about him and complained about him all the time, simply for being a man and wanting to care for children.

One parent even said they wouldn't mind if he was gay🤨 hes not.

They never moved their children from there because it was too much hassle for them to find a new place, they just wanted this man to be fired...for being a man. He wasn't fired , obviously and just had to put up with the complainants.