Male Nursery Staff

Murder isn't even in the top 10 causes of child deaths. Why do people make this stuff up? The leading causes are cancer, genetic conditions, other diseases, accidents

Most children are not at any risk of murder at home. They are at risk of falling or drowning in the bath perhaps.

Not necessarily. They are in a position of trust, midwives changed my newborn's nappies when I was incapable after giving birth.
Midwives also do lots of intimate care for women, potentially including underage teenage mums. It's not a suitable job for sex offender of any sort.

Sex offenders shouldn't be in any position of trust in the community even if there's no direct childcare. They can't be a cleaner or caretaker in a school for example.

One of my dad's often repeated jokes is that statistics mean children should be brought up by lesbians they don't know.

Good luck to them with that. The majority of nurseries and other early years settings such as Reception have very few men.

I've been asked if I'm a man. I'm typically assumed to be a woman. Only I know which is true, and people only know what i claim, so its all a bit meaningless. I've also had attempts made to silence me in other ways, I've been told I'm a misandrist, bitter, unable to see any view point but my own and called stupid. It's all water off a ducks back to me.

If that’s what the parents/guardians would prefer, then yes!

Because in the UK in particular we have a press encouraged culture of there are pedos around every corner so men, like me, do tend to stay away from these conversations as we are scared that even having an opinion may lead us to be classed as a paedophile.

I even worry about calling my great niece pretty. Yesterday I walked past a senior school girl who was in tears....why because I don't want to be considered a risk, or to be grooming.

What a fucking shit world we live in when the op worries that someone changing a shitty nappy is having a hand shandy over it.😔

I don't see it that way

Well, you wouldn't, would you. As it's not happening to you you're blind to it.

You don't see it like that because you aren't the one being called a male in an attempt to silence them...

I don't see it that way. As I said before, men use MN. Some posters gravitate to threads where they percieve men may be under attack and spend a lot of energy in trying to persuade everyone that women are as bad as men, offering very pro male rights opinions, and often showing a very low level of tolerance to womens concerns. Its not such a huge leap to think it possible that some of these posters are men themselves, surely? If they're not and they care they only have to say so. The thing that I find more interesting is how few posters are actually declaring themselves as men on a thread about the type of issue that typically gets them into a bit of a tizzy.

And as Goodnight says its usually used to dismiss or disparage posters. To claim their view should be ignored because its male and lesser or just trolling. Rather than a woman who had a proper view point (so long as it fits the narrative)

Because its absolutely ridiculous and quite demeaning to the actual women commenting to be told you must be a man due to your views.

You essentially are telling us we are "women womening wrong"

You're missing the point. On these threads, it's usually to sew doubt, accuse you of being here for nefarious reasons, that you're a lurking pervert etc
I couldn't give a toss if I'm called a man either, but the wider point is sailing over your head.

Why do you care? I've been asked if I'm a man myself. It makes no odds to me. I know my sex and I don't lose any sleep if strangers who see only my written word think I'm the opposite sex.

Any of us who think being male doesn't instantly make you a threat and who try to point out women aren't inherently safer will be labelled a man

It's the MN way. You're either their idea of a woman or your man

Children at a very high risk in their home, with one or both parent too. Murder is one of the leading causes of death for children and the majority of those are killed by a family membee

Best to just let them all fend for themselves with no adults around

It's always important to remember when claiming most sexual assault is committed by men that a good number of places will now caveat that with something along the lines of "but as there is still a stigma around being a victim of a female abuser, particularly if you are male, then it is likely the data doesn't accurately reflect the situation as victims of female abuse are much less likely to speak out or to be believed". MN is classic for double standards in this sense.

Sexual abuse in nurseries is the least of your worries, I'd say, compared to neglect and physical abuse which are far more common place and are committed by both genders.

That's why the safeguarding procedures in place need to be robust and adhered to. It doesn't stop abuse but it should severally limit it.

I'm not sure whether you're being silly and hyperbolic about this on purpose, or because you genuinely don't understand the measures taken to build relationships of trust in sensitive situations?

Yeah, exactly 😁

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Yes of course I'm aware that men use MN, I was just referring to on threads like this the "you're a man" gets wheeled out constantly if you've a different view.

In that case surely baby boys should have males changing them

So those men who have gone through the same Child and Social care courses at college need to do more than the women who have done exactly the same, to prove they are worthy?

Whats that then, an extra module entitled "I'm sorry that I could be a peadophile and I acknowledge that"? then they get sent off for conversion therapy?

Anyone on this thread who thinks nurseries shouldn't be a womens only space is a man, haven't you rtft? /s

Because if nothing else, pragmatism. I work in a sector where the client group has a high level of mistrust in mainstream services. If my brief is to get them to engage with the service, I'm not going to achieve that by barging in on them shouting that not all people like me are like that! I'm a good one! If you don't accept me as such then I'm going to shout at you some more until you do. Because I demand MY RIGHT to do this work for you. Just like with a nursery who puts men's feelings ahead of custimers concerns, people would simply vote with their feet.
Men who want to be trusted need to show sensitivity around the reasons they're not and work to break down barriers. An honest acknowledgement of the issues without all the ridiculous defensive attacks would be an excellent start.

On that premise, male teachers should take boys to the toilet.