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Male Nursery Staff

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herei · 24/04/2024 15:59

My child is in Nursery after my return to work. They nursery chain have been hiring make staff recently. My child's nursery has 3 male staff.

My daughter's nappy was changed by a male member of staff. For my own personal reasons I feel upset about this but not sure if I can even say or do anything. I just don't like it.

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herei · 24/04/2024 18:46

Also to pp who say their son/ uncle etc is in childcare and your offended. Sorry but my child comes before your right to feel like your hard done by and it's sexist as such. How many people know someone's true sexual desires!! Just because they are a lovely person or relative.

Should I put my child at risk to appear fair and equally to men. No I have a right to safeguard my child from potential risk. If most abusers are men then my child is at more risk from a male staff member changing her nappy compared to female.

My child doesn't need to see a man looking after her in nursery because it sets a good example because guess what she's only 1. Or if she is learning from this is she learning it's ok for an unknown male to be in contact with her genitals? Ok

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herei · 24/04/2024 18:40

Thank you for some who are understanding of my position but to answer a few questions.

A make teacher, doctor or nurse
Is not the same thing I won't be leaving my child alone with a nurse or doctor and a teacher won't be changing my nonverbal baby's nappy will they.

Most abusers are relatives
Yes hence why I've said nobody in my family changes my child's nappy.

Would I be any different if it was a women
Yes because most abusers are men fact! And naming one previous women Vanessa George which was 15 years ago. Seriously

Will there be a rise in abuse in nursery settings with more men being employed well let's see in many years to come.

  • DBS checks don't mean anything if they have never been convicted.

All the staff men ever involved in my child's care have spoken to me but this man is not, he's a stranger to me and my child.

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DragonGypsyDoris · 24/04/2024 18:40

When you pay someone else to care for your child, you don't get to call all the shots. Remember that there are male nurses, male paediatricians and (most importantly) male fathers.

TinyYellow · 24/04/2024 18:40

Can you have a word with the nursery manager and explain that you'd prefer DD's ably be changed by female staff only - can they facilitate that?

No good nursery manager that values her staff would facilitate that. Why should women do more than their share of the unpleasant jobs just because their manager hired a man?

Scoobydoobywho · 24/04/2024 18:38

Vanessa George female nursery worker took photos herself sexually abusing kids in her care.
Not all men are paedophilles and not all women are a safe choice.

MsVictoria · 24/04/2024 18:37

HcbSS · 24/04/2024 18:20

And if the female member of staff were a lesbian? Should she have to declare that if she is changing female children's nappies? Oh I bet not.

Prize for the first idiot comparing lesbians with men.

jannier · 24/04/2024 18:36

shattereddreams1 · 24/04/2024 18:16

I really struggle with this. In a society where women are routinely heckled, harassed, sent dick pics and sexually assaulted by men. Where every single day there are stories in the news about men who have raped, killed and stalked women. Where 98% of people who have committed a sexual crime are men. When so many women on here and other sites have shared stories of doctors, teachers, gynaecologists and other male professionals assaulting them. Why is it women are accused of being ‘disgusting’ and thinking ‘all men are sex pests’ when, by the time we become mothers we are shaped by experience and become naturally wary? Even if that seems unfair on the rest of men?

There is a lot of ‘poor men’ sentiment on here. I feel more sorry that women have been socialised to be so wary of men through bitter experience.

Being naturally wary isn't a problem and should be applied to all people having contact with children not just men. Assuming because 98% of sexual crimes are carried out by men therefore all men are risky is wrong if that were the case most of us would be victims as we have fathers and male relatives and family is the riskiest place to be.

I think people need to put things into perspective only a low percentage of children are abused, most risk is at home, sexual abuse is a lower percentage than physical, emotional, or neglect. Be aware ask questions like what is your safeguarding policy, your nappy changing policy etc. read Ofsted reports on management and leadership

listsandbudgets · 24/04/2024 18:33

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Tumbleweed101 · 24/04/2024 18:33

There are safeguards in place in all good nurseries to ensure no staff member is alone with toileting/nappy changes. Staff change nappies all day long, it's another repetitive task for most of us and part and parcel of the day.

Male staff in early years are amazing. They play and interact differently and for children without consistent male role models in the family environment they are almost essential. All the men I've worked with in early years seem to be far more patient than some of the women.

2proseccosplease · 24/04/2024 18:33

I am normally very progressive, but I wouldn't like this either. When I went to look around DD's nursery there was a male member of staff on the team board and it did put me off.

As pp have said, of course not all men would do something awful, but most sexual assaults are committed by men. Working in a nursery presumably attracts one of two types of men: very caring wonderful ones and ones with awful motivations.

Can you have a word with the nursery manager and explain that you'd prefer DD's ably be changed by female staff only - can they facilitate that?

CoatRack · 24/04/2024 18:32

MFF2010 · 24/04/2024 18:22

It's not about equality it's about safeguarding 🤷‍♀️ I'm sure your son's lovely but I wouldn't put my child in his nursery.

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Peak Mumsnet

"Wah all the childcare roles are women because men won't do it such oppression"

Man attempts childcare

"Wah get that man away from childcare it's not safe such oppression"

TinyYellow · 24/04/2024 18:30

If you don’t like it, take your child out of the nursery. I wouldn’t tell them why you’re leaving though, it doesn’t reflect well on parents that are happy to send their child to nursery but want to pick and choose who cares for them. You either trust the nursery as a whole or you don’t.

Mummaluma · 24/04/2024 18:26

We have a male member of staff at DD's preschool... but that is with the 3 and 4 year olds who are already potty trained. Not sure how I would feel about baby room, though I am satisfied that there is a strict safeguarding policy in place.

I will say that he is great- highly trained, very professional, and a good male influence. It's a shame there aren't more men in early years education.

Trulyme · 24/04/2024 18:24

It does not matter whether we think you are BU or not.

You are not happy with the staff at this nursery or that it’s not following the correct procedures, so move your child.

TraitorsGate · 24/04/2024 18:22

Crackalac · 24/04/2024 18:17

unfortunately, I agree. it's just not worth the risk is it

No wonder men feel reluctant to go into childcare, nursing, teaching. How do they learn how to care for children.

MFF2010 · 24/04/2024 18:22

Fidgety31 · 24/04/2024 17:58

My son works in a nursery . He has faced this type of prejudice . It’s a shame that some people are so pathetically narrow minded
Equality is supposed to work both ways - but only when it suits some posters !

It's not about equality it's about safeguarding 🤷‍♀️ I'm sure your son's lovely but I wouldn't put my child in his nursery.

HcbSS · 24/04/2024 18:20

And if the female member of staff were a lesbian? Should she have to declare that if she is changing female children's nappies? Oh I bet not.

JanefromLondon1 · 24/04/2024 18:20

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jannier · 24/04/2024 18:18

Higglings · 24/04/2024 17:49

Op I'm with you on this, I'd feel unhappy too. I think you need to take your child away and find a female staff only nursery.

And tomorrow when they take on a man?

Crackalac · 24/04/2024 18:17

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unfortunately, I agree. it's just not worth the risk is it

jannier · 24/04/2024 18:16

IntermittentFarting · 24/04/2024 17:17

I wouldn't be happy with a man I'd never met rubbing cream on my baby daughter's vulva with his hands either.

I couldn't care less how unreasonable that makes me.

How would you feel about a woman holding your boys penis and scrotum ? There's actually much more intimate touching cleaning a boy properly

shattereddreams1 · 24/04/2024 18:16

HcbSS · 24/04/2024 18:07

Disgusting attitude. Does your partner agree? Or is it just you that think men are sex pests.

I really struggle with this. In a society where women are routinely heckled, harassed, sent dick pics and sexually assaulted by men. Where every single day there are stories in the news about men who have raped, killed and stalked women. Where 98% of people who have committed a sexual crime are men. When so many women on here and other sites have shared stories of doctors, teachers, gynaecologists and other male professionals assaulting them. Why is it women are accused of being ‘disgusting’ and thinking ‘all men are sex pests’ when, by the time we become mothers we are shaped by experience and become naturally wary? Even if that seems unfair on the rest of men?

There is a lot of ‘poor men’ sentiment on here. I feel more sorry that women have been socialised to be so wary of men through bitter experience.

XMissPlacedX · 24/04/2024 18:16

My daughters nursery had cameras in the baby changing area, I was quite relieved about that as a first time nervous mum.

Firstworldproblemo · 24/04/2024 18:16

If the nursery doesn't meet.your requirements, for whatever reason, then move her.

But don't ask the nursery to stop.male.staff.chnaging the nappies. It'll put unfair work on other members of staff.

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