Male Nursery Staff

Male molesters do outnumber female ones, but then again with the way female nursery workers outnumber male nursery workers, who's to say you're not more likely to encounter a female paedophile nursery worker rather than a male paedophile nursery worker?

There is no equivalence, as it is not women who commit the vast majority of child sexual abuse. Why are you being so disingenuous?

Thanks for the luck! I have a female nanny and I have already said up thread that I have no issue with male primary teachers or workers.

@GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight I agree it is a slippery slope. But that’s not argument enough against it for me, many things would be bad if they spread but good in isolation.

Exactly this, well said

We can't have our cake and eat it too.

Women can't complain that caring roles are seen as women's work, then think only women should do them.

Women can't complain of toxic masculinity, then scorn men who break the mold by saying "Actually, I can be nurturing, I can think kids who aren't mine are cute and fun, I can think that a career in Early Years is for me".

If the OP or her child had been SA by a male in the past that would make a very legitimate reason why she might find a male member of staff changing their child's nappy uncomfortable! That does not mean all men who work in nurseries are child abusers! If I were to approach a nursery manager and tell them this and they told me to find another nursery it would horrify me! Nursery managers should listen to parents concerns and what their child's needs are!

Apologies haven't rtft yet but as a worker in childcare in a very acute staffing crisis I would welcome male staff. What frustrates me is what i think is a prejudice about different professions. A child can be brought to a male doctor with a male parent or guardian or wheeled off to surgery with a male team. That's fine because they are medical professionals. Yet some people are instantly suspicious of male childcare staff.

Absolutely nuts!

Goodluck with finding childcare and a primary school.😂

Oh Ok, apologies then didn't realise you actually thought it was discrimination but that it's OK in this case.
Where does that stop though?
Racists will feel completely justified in their discrimination too, that they have "valid concerns."
So will people who are homophobic.

Is that a joke?

I’m not saying all men are a huge risk. I’m saying that men who are attracted to such jobs are at an even greater risk of being paedophiles than the general population of men. I’m not even saying that all male nursery workers are a huge risk, but that the risk is high enough that I wouldn’t personally accept it as someone who has a low risk tolerance when it comes to my daughter.

And how is that affecting their patients?

😂You really think this post is ok and would be tolerated.

So you are saying all men are a huge risk of being guilty of child abuse?

Good luck with that. That view is not allowed in the work place.

Why does nobody accept that I’m not trying to deny that it’s discrimination 😂 I KNOW it’s discrimination. I just think it’s acceptable discrimination.

If I was the nursery manager and you came to me saying you didn’t want a male member of staff caring for your child then I would simply say that it’s best you find a new childcare provider

I am sorry that something has made you feel this way but you cannot dictate how a nursery runs their business and that’s what you would be doing if you requested female only care

You can't discriminate against all men in the workplace though as you think they're a pervert/potential paedophile.
That's discrimination whether you want to admit that or not.

I don’t think anyone here is against women providing intimate care for boys. You seem to have completely lost the point that men are the danger here - they are far more likely to be guilty of child sexual abuse than women.

Some forms of discrimination are allowed in the workplace, if considered proportionate and necessary.

You can’t just cry “but it’s discrimination!” like that settles the entire debate.

Total overreaction. You cannot treat all men like they are perverts.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10505539/amp/Male-midwife-struck-nursing-register-performing-sex-acts-work.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9989159/amp/Male-midwife-39-caught-stash-400-indecent-images-children.html

https://nursingnotes.co.uk/news/nurse-midwife-stuck-off-for-making-and-distributing-indecent-images-of-children/

These are all separate people from a light google. There are fewer than 200 male midwives in the whole of the UK. Not everyone gets caught. I don’t like those odds.

That's not what the thread is about though, even though it's a good question, maybe a different thread should be started for that discussion?
This threads about men shouldn't be caring for children. Which is discrimination.

Not interested in that just discrimination in the workplace.

Which is discrimination and not tolerated in the workplace. How are nurseries and schools
supposed to care for baby boys and boys in foundation if female staff weren’t allowed to do intimate care?

@mumofoneanddone82 is trying to work out whether you’re against all forms of discrimination (as your posts imply) or whether there are any that you think are acceptable (eg whether you think women should have the right to request female intimate care for themselves).

See that I find totally weird. If you need a midwife it's hardly likely no man has ever seen your bits before.

I didn't care when my male gynaecologist examined me either

Exactly, that's what the whole thread is about, not wanting children to be looked after by men.