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Car accident.. who is at fault here?

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Greenleafants · 24/04/2024 13:53

I am so stressed so bare with me. Going down the A1 but it’s a single carriageway and turning right into a little side road because I live there. I stop and start Indicating right as there is approaching traffic on other side of the road. I can see a white van approaching my rear at high speed but I still don’t want to turn as there is traffic coming very quickly on other side of road. Then I see a gap but I am really stressed at this point and I stall my car like an absolute fool. So embarrassed. Crash. He goes into the back of me and he was absolutely raging. His van is damaged worse than my car, I have some damage to my bumper but managed to drive home.. I’ll be found at fault for, won't I?

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WarshipRocinante · 24/04/2024 14:44

Dareisayiseethesunshine · 24/04/2024 14:38

Stand firm op. It wasn't your fault. I was hit head on down a country lane on a bend when a van twat came round on the wrong side of the road.. He is still adamant it wasn't his fault. We are going to court... Accident was last June... Do not accept fault op.

How can he possibly be claiming it wasn’t his fault? I’m glad your insurance company are fighting him and not just going 50/50.

Nothingandnobody · 24/04/2024 14:44

fieldsofbutterflies · 24/04/2024 14:38

This is such a silly comment - she didn't stall on purpose, it was an accident and one that could happen to even the most experienced of drivers.

He should have left room to stop and had no right to say what he said.

It's the busiest road in the North East. It could have led to a massive pile up. She's lucky it didn't. It was the man's fault and I said that. However, I can understand his anger as stalling on a major road is so dangerous.

Catza · 24/04/2024 14:41

Greenleafants · 24/04/2024 13:57

He expected me to move off and I stalled. He said I shouldn’t be on the main roads. I passed my test in January so I’m a new driver.

What did he mean by "you shouldn't be on the main road"? You have a license, you were driving on the main road and stopped to turn off the main road. Were you supposed to maneuver off the road somehow? Or was he implying that you are not skilled enough to be driving where oh-so-skilled drivers like himself do? Roads are not exclusively made for middle aged white van men...

thisfilmisboring123 · 24/04/2024 14:41

Nothingandnobody · 24/04/2024 14:00

100% his fault. However, you shouldn't be stalling on really busy roads like the A1. It's massively dangerous so I can understand why he said what he did.

What a ridiculous thing to say!

You dont choose to stall.

ImNotAPanda · 24/04/2024 14:40

It’s also a well known scam for people with already damaged cars. They are in front of you at a roundabout and it’s clear so you think they’ll move and then They stop and you go into the back of them but it’s technically your fault

wombleberry · 24/04/2024 14:39

He saw you stopped and DROVE INTO YOU. Entirely his fault, the man's an arsehole.

TheFlis · 24/04/2024 14:39

You were stationery and he went into the back of you. No way on earth that can be your fault.

NoWordForFluffy · 24/04/2024 14:39

WarshipRocinante · 24/04/2024 14:09

This sums it up. It doesn’t really matter what you’ve done, because the driver behind should leave the correct space to brake fully.

The only way it’s the front car’s fault is if the car in front reverses into you!

There is case law that says that if a vehicle cuts in front of another car, reducing the rear vehicle's stopping distance so much that a crash occurs, it can be split liability.

Dareisayiseethesunshine · 24/04/2024 14:38

Stand firm op. It wasn't your fault. I was hit head on down a country lane on a bend when a van twat came round on the wrong side of the road.. He is still adamant it wasn't his fault. We are going to court... Accident was last June... Do not accept fault op.

fieldsofbutterflies · 24/04/2024 14:38

Nothingandnobody · 24/04/2024 14:00

100% his fault. However, you shouldn't be stalling on really busy roads like the A1. It's massively dangerous so I can understand why he said what he did.

This is such a silly comment - she didn't stall on purpose, it was an accident and one that could happen to even the most experienced of drivers.

He should have left room to stop and had no right to say what he said.

ImNotAPanda · 24/04/2024 14:37

His fault entirely. Even if someone emergency stopped on the motorway with a clear road in front and you went into the back of them it’s technically your fault for not leaving the appropriate stopping distance. Entirely his fault and his was trying to intimidate you as he was not watching the road when he hit you

shoppingshamed · 24/04/2024 14:35

It doesn't matter what he is expected you to do, thats not how driving works but, kindly, if you think that he could in any way be right maybe your confidence on the road needs to be boosted

WallaceinAnderland · 24/04/2024 14:34

I did this OP. Drove into the back of someone entering a roundabout because they stalled. Totally my fault nonetheless.

Did you get his details?

Mountainpika · 24/04/2024 14:26

I've been driving since 1964 and still stall from time to time. No shame in that.

shams05 · 24/04/2024 14:20

He drove into the back of you so he's at fault.
I know it won't help you this time but consider getting a dash cam, it can even bring your I surance down a little so that helps too.

Lanawashington · 24/04/2024 14:19

Greenleafants · 24/04/2024 13:57

He expected me to move off and I stalled. He said I shouldn’t be on the main roads. I passed my test in January so I’m a new driver.

He sounds like a knob, I know it's hard but try and ignore him. I've been driving 10 years and still stall sometimes! It's normal and one of those things that can't be helped. He was probably trying to intimidate you if he could sense you were nervous

As someone who has been in a few serious car accidents (all non fault), just give an honest account to your insurers and let them deal with it. And if you can, try and get behind the wheel again as soon as you feel ready. It can get harder the longer you leave it

Roundaboot · 24/04/2024 14:16

100% his fault.
Don't stress about stalling, even the most experienced drivers stall sometimes, especially when under pressure. It wasn't your stalling that caused the accident, it was the van driver trying to drive through you!

Yellowhammer09 · 24/04/2024 14:16

Absolutely his fault. Did you get his details?

Blarn · 24/04/2024 14:15

Definitely him at fault. He should have seen you were stopped in the carriageway and been prepared to stop.

Also, experienced drivers stall. You just get better at restarting the car quickly.

WarshipRocinante · 24/04/2024 14:09

AndAllOurYesterdays · 24/04/2024 14:02

It's his fault regardless what happened. When someone went into the back of us after I had to break sharply the police officer explained it's always their fault as you should leave enough space in case the car in front has to stop because a child is suddenly in the road or something.

This sums it up. It doesn’t really matter what you’ve done, because the driver behind should leave the correct space to brake fully.

The only way it’s the front car’s fault is if the car in front reverses into you!

WhatsUnderneathTheClothesBrookeDavis · 24/04/2024 14:09

Most definitely not your fault and never feel pressured into turning if it’s not safe to do so. Accidents are always stressful but please don’t worry, he sounds like an idiot and your insurance company will find him liable.

MassiveChickenAtTheEveningDo · 24/04/2024 14:09

He should know that only a fool breaks the 2-second rule. You stay at least 2 seconds behind the person in front for precisely this reason.

Yes anyone going into the back of you is at fault.

WarshipRocinante · 24/04/2024 14:08

When you saw him coming at speed, did you sound your horn? I have a horrible right turn I have to make regularly on a country road which people speed down, and when I’m waiting to turn, I keep an eye half on the rear view. Anyone coming up too fast and not slowing and I will sound the horn to get them to pay attention. We get a lot of issues of van drivers using this road as a rat run and using their phones at the wheel. If I’m not sure they’ve seen me stationary in the road, then I’ll sound my horn. That’s what it’s for; to notify other driver’s of your presence.

But as to your question, this is 100% him. When you’re driving, you don’t make decisions on what someone in front of you should be doing, or what you think they should be doing. You make decisions on what they are actually doing. He kept his speed up because he thought you’d made the turn before he got there. He was wrong and he hit you. If he had driven to the conditions in front of him - a stationary car not yet moving, then he would have come up behind you at a crawl instead of at speed. It doesn’t matter that you stalled, if he didn’t have enough time to brake then he was coming too fast up behind a stationary car.

SBHon · 24/04/2024 14:07

He’s at fault.

Yes he was expecting you to go, as we all would, but he didn’t leave enough stopping distance between you and himself to deal with the fact you didn’t.

Learn a lesson here from him OP: stopping distances are always important!

exomoon · 24/04/2024 14:06

Greenleafants · 24/04/2024 13:57

He expected me to move off and I stalled. He said I shouldn’t be on the main roads. I passed my test in January so I’m a new driver.

The exact same thing happened to me with a Sixt rental car.

The car behind you is 100% at fault because he was too close to you.

DO NOT be bullied by him!