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Car accident.. who is at fault here?

208 replies

Greenleafants · 24/04/2024 13:53

I am so stressed so bare with me. Going down the A1 but it’s a single carriageway and turning right into a little side road because I live there. I stop and start Indicating right as there is approaching traffic on other side of the road. I can see a white van approaching my rear at high speed but I still don’t want to turn as there is traffic coming very quickly on other side of road. Then I see a gap but I am really stressed at this point and I stall my car like an absolute fool. So embarrassed. Crash. He goes into the back of me and he was absolutely raging. His van is damaged worse than my car, I have some damage to my bumper but managed to drive home.. I’ll be found at fault for, won't I?

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Likemyjealouseel · 24/04/2024 15:38

You are thinking that he’s so angry because he knows he’s right, but he’s that angry because he knows he’s wrong.

saveforthat · 24/04/2024 15:36

Nothingandnobody · 24/04/2024 15:22

Of course they should leave distance and he clearly didn't but it's absolutely more dangerous to stall on a fast, busy road like the A1 than it is to stall on a much quieter road. It can cause a pile up and people are travelling much faster on that type of road.

Pile ups only happen because people do not use safe stopping distances.

saveforthat · 24/04/2024 15:34

I still stall sometimes, I've just got a new car and can't get used to the clutch. A few years ago I was behind a car turning from a side road into the main road, they stalled, I hit them. My fault.

saveforthat · 24/04/2024 15:31

Zonder · 24/04/2024 15:23

It's also not exclusively in the north east!

I was just about to say this. Quite a lot of it is in the South East!

Overthebow · 24/04/2024 15:26

It’s completely his fault. It’s not good that you stalled (but we all do it) and he should have been going slow enough and leaving enough room to stop if something like that happens. Call your insurance company, give them his details and tell them what happened. Do not admit fault, let them deal with his insurance company.

Zonder · 24/04/2024 15:23

It's also not exclusively in the north east!

Nothingandnobody · 24/04/2024 15:22

WarshipRocinante · 24/04/2024 14:46

It’s no more dangerous than stalling anywhere else. If you’re stalling then you’ve been stationary, and every driver coming up behind should be reacting to a stationary car, which means slowing and approaching at a crawl and stopping if they still haven’t moved. If they stall and you hit them then you were going too fast and too close, doesn’t matter how busy the road is. Every driver should approach a stationary car as if it’s a stationary car! And not imagining that it will move before you get there.

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Of course they should leave distance and he clearly didn't but it's absolutely more dangerous to stall on a fast, busy road like the A1 than it is to stall on a much quieter road. It can cause a pile up and people are travelling much faster on that type of road.

CatamaranViper · 24/04/2024 15:21

OP no one chooses to stall (I don't think...). We all do it or have done it.
My driving instructor told me to always assume that everyone else doesn't know how to drive and everyone is unpredictable. He should have slowed down when you did and waited for his path to be clear before driving straight on.

If it's the stretch of the A1 I think it is, there are always accidents around there due to road rage. Often idiots trying to overtake a couple of cars and a tractor, or swerving into ditches/bushes tryng to speed around those turning right.

I know it's shite, especially when you're a new driver, but try not to let this shake your confidence.

Whatsitcalled38 · 24/04/2024 15:12

He drove into the back of a stationary vehicle. Just pass it over to your insurers and they'll decide he's at fault.

I did the same thing once. Was at a roundabout and it was empty, woman in front set off, I set off and kept my eye on what was coming. Went straight into the back of her becusse she'd stopped. Doesn't matter that she had no reason at all to stop, I was 100% wrong to drive straight into her.

DragonGypsyDoris · 24/04/2024 15:09

His fault.
*bear with me - because bare with me means something totally different!

Zonder · 24/04/2024 15:09

Have you called your insurance?

His fault. For all he knows your car could have broken down.

BarbarasRhabarberBar · 24/04/2024 15:07

I drive a lot (my job is driving) and these cunt van drivers regularly do shit like this. For example, you haven't overtaken the car to the left but they're basically in the back of your car. This is his fault, stall or not. If he was sensible he would have come to a stop behind you or judged the required speed accurately.

Stereotypical van man here including his overarching reaction being anger.

Your premium will very likely go up because you've had an accident regardless of fault but report his behaviour to the insurers too.

Disclaimer - some van men are lovely.

Londonrach1 · 24/04/2024 14:59

His fault.

SuzzySusan · 24/04/2024 14:54

This isn't your fault, its the van drivers fault for being so close to you in the first place. I hope you got his insurance and reg!

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hourstokill · 24/04/2024 14:50

i had an incident a few years back very similar... sat at a roundabout waiting to enter and take the 3rd exit.. an HGV came round from the right, i chose not to go.. even though the HGV did turn off before passing me at the last minute..

the Yodel driver came steaming up behind me and went bang into the back.. he claimed he thought i should have gone!

at first he was so angry at me, yelling and screaming as he assumed i was in the car on my own, until hubby... pretty tall, build like a you know what stepped out of the passenger side... van driver shut up and immediatly got back in his van

deemed his fault and ended up paying for my car which he wrote off and injuries to me

WithIcePlease · 24/04/2024 14:50

Someone crashed into the back of my car. The insurance man said 'you could be the worst driver on the road but if someone goes into the back of you, it's their fault'

pelotonaddiction · 24/04/2024 14:49

It's his own fault
You could have broken down, set off and had to stop for a pedestrian, anything
You don't just plough into the back of a car and say it's their fault Confused

Haydenn · 24/04/2024 14:49

100% his fault. He thinks by being aggressive and a bully he can convince you otherwise

5foot5 · 24/04/2024 14:48

Sounds like he is trying to bully you into accepting responsibility when it is actually his fault. Do not fall for this. Hopefully you got his details? Put in your insurance claim. It will be counted as his fault.

35965a · 24/04/2024 14:47

You should never assume someone is going to do something (or not do something) behind the wheel. He learned that the hard way. Absolute fool should have slowed down and been ready to stop already when you stalled.

Lochroy · 24/04/2024 14:46

Completely his fault. Have you got his details for your insurance company?

WarshipRocinante · 24/04/2024 14:46

Nothingandnobody · 24/04/2024 14:44

It's the busiest road in the North East. It could have led to a massive pile up. She's lucky it didn't. It was the man's fault and I said that. However, I can understand his anger as stalling on a major road is so dangerous.

It’s no more dangerous than stalling anywhere else. If you’re stalling then you’ve been stationary, and every driver coming up behind should be reacting to a stationary car, which means slowing and approaching at a crawl and stopping if they still haven’t moved. If they stall and you hit them then you were going too fast and too close, doesn’t matter how busy the road is. Every driver should approach a stationary car as if it’s a stationary car! And not imagining that it will move before you get there.

Catza · 24/04/2024 14:45

ImNotAPanda · 24/04/2024 14:40

It’s also a well known scam for people with already damaged cars. They are in front of you at a roundabout and it’s clear so you think they’ll move and then They stop and you go into the back of them but it’s technically your fault

But it is your fault. You shouldn't assume someone will move just because the road ahead is clear. You should slow down and maintain enough of a gap to allow you to react to a car stopping unexpectedly.

MathiasBroucek · 24/04/2024 14:45

He's in the wrong and you have my sympathy - it must have been frightening

Adrenaline and testosterone can do funny things to blokes after something like that which would have been scary for him too. We can end up becoming both aggressive and defensive! For example, I was once accused of causing an accident in the immediate aftermath (someone had hit me in the rear when they were turning onto the main road I was driving down). When the guy had calmed down, he was much more reasonable and his insurer paid.

To be clear, I'm not defending the van driver's behaviour, just giving some context.

Saddlesore · 24/04/2024 14:44

He's a man, and I presume you are a woman, so of course it's your fault....😉

Seriously, don't let his reaction bully you into thinking it's your fault. He was responsible for crashing into the back of you. It was totally his fault. I hope you got his details for your insurance claim?