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Car accident.. who is at fault here?

208 replies

Greenleafants · 24/04/2024 13:53

I am so stressed so bare with me. Going down the A1 but it’s a single carriageway and turning right into a little side road because I live there. I stop and start Indicating right as there is approaching traffic on other side of the road. I can see a white van approaching my rear at high speed but I still don’t want to turn as there is traffic coming very quickly on other side of road. Then I see a gap but I am really stressed at this point and I stall my car like an absolute fool. So embarrassed. Crash. He goes into the back of me and he was absolutely raging. His van is damaged worse than my car, I have some damage to my bumper but managed to drive home.. I’ll be found at fault for, won't I?

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FeeBee73 · 25/04/2024 18:17

Greenleafants · 24/04/2024 17:13

Thanks all. He demanded a photo of my driving licence. Dick. I’ve got his reg. I was indicating beforehand but he wasn’t even there then, I had to wait for a safe gap so he came up behind me and must have expected me to go then I stall. I’m feeling better now. Wish I didn’t let him intimidate me like that but I was by myself on the side of the road with a stranger so just wanted to go home.

Contact the police as he shouldn't have intimidated you like this. Say you felt threatened.

fieldsofbutterflies · 25/04/2024 17:52

saveforthat · 25/04/2024 17:16

The car engine could be faulty.

That wouldn't be stalling as much as "breaking down".

saveforthat · 25/04/2024 17:16

fieldsofbutterflies · 25/04/2024 15:11

How could you stall on a motorway unless you were stationary in the first place?

The car engine could be faulty.

fieldsofbutterflies · 25/04/2024 15:11

Nothingandnobody · 25/04/2024 08:27

I'm not sure idiotic is much better than arsehole. Oh course it makes a difference. Try stalling on a motorway and you'd soon find out.

How could you stall on a motorway unless you were stationary in the first place?

godmum56 · 25/04/2024 15:04

AnxiousRabbit · 24/04/2024 22:30

Because stalling is a choice and OP should only do it on minor roads!???

this.

Longma · 25/04/2024 12:59

Try stalling on a motorway and you'd soon find out.

It would still make no real difference between there and any other road though.
Stallling happens after you've been stationary and setting off again.
So the other cars should already have slowed down and/ir stopped regardless.

botheredand · 25/04/2024 10:22

His fault, had the exact same thing happen to me earlier this year. Insurance didn't think twice before blaming him and I got full payout.

You did nothing wrong, he's gaslighting you. Don't let a stranger knock your confidence.

Rudicoolcat · 25/04/2024 09:18

HaventGotAScoob · 24/04/2024 13:58

Oh my days why do you think at all this is your fault?? Call you insurance now and get the claim started against him! It doesn't go against you, it goes against his insurance. No need to talk about the stalling etc thats irrelevant, you were stopped, indicating and ready to turn, noticed a van coming up really fast behind you, weren't able to turn and then he crashed into you. End of!

Couldn't have put it any better than @HaventGotAScoob.

exomoon · 25/04/2024 09:12

Nothingandnobody · 25/04/2024 03:38

I'm an arsehole for having a different opinion to you?

You need to be prepared for people stalling when moving off, blaming it on the driver stalling is pointless.

Raspberryyy9 · 25/04/2024 09:07

Definitely his fault. He will just be using intimidation tactic. Similar thing happened to me and he tried to blame me by saying I look like a young driver so it must have been me at fault. Insurance deemed him to be at fault so I wouldn’t worry

cadburyegg · 25/04/2024 09:04

Agree the fact you stalled is irrelevant. You were already stationery.

AnxiousRabbit · 25/04/2024 09:02

AnxiousRabbit · 25/04/2024 08:57

How do you stall on a motorway unless the traffic has stopped?
Do you think stalling means stopping?

Also.....motorways don't have side roads.
The single carriage way A1 does.....people will need to turn.
Some vehicles will have a lower speed limit or just a lower speed.
There will even be cyclists!

AnxiousRabbit · 25/04/2024 08:57

Nothingandnobody · 25/04/2024 08:27

I'm not sure idiotic is much better than arsehole. Oh course it makes a difference. Try stalling on a motorway and you'd soon find out.

How do you stall on a motorway unless the traffic has stopped?
Do you think stalling means stopping?

WarshipRocinante · 25/04/2024 08:49

Nothingandnobody · 25/04/2024 08:27

I'm not sure idiotic is much better than arsehole. Oh course it makes a difference. Try stalling on a motorway and you'd soon find out.

If I’m stationary on a motorway then it’s because you’re nose to tail in traffic, everyone slow moving. Anyone who is going to hit you if you stall will also hit you if you don’t, because you’re stationary or slow moving. Stalling makes no difference.

Do you actually drive? Do you know what stalling is? Because what you’re saying is absolute nonsense and is idiotic.

You don’t stall at speed. You don’t stall going at 70 with cars going 70 behind you. You stall when you’re stationary and any cars approaching should drive as if they are approaching a stationary car… because they are. If they hit you then it’s because of them not slowing or not stopping. It doesn’t matter if you’ve stalled; you’re already stationary. Cars behind need to approach assuming you won’t move rather than hoping you will so continuing to plow on at speed.

Really… do you need some help understanding?

Hereyoume · 25/04/2024 08:43

Rear ended you so likely his fault.

However, and this is something lots of people don't understand, it's not up to you, or the other driver to admit to fault, that's something your respective insurance companies will sort out between themselves. Their decision might not be what you agree with, but it's not your decision (or the other driver's) to make.

Rear end collisions are almost always the "fault" of the driver who hits the rear of the other car. They should have been paying attention and be prepared to respond to hazards.

Nothingandnobody · 25/04/2024 08:27

WarshipRocinante · 25/04/2024 07:35

Maybe arsehole is too strong a word. But your comment was idiotic. Stalling on a busy road compared to a not busy road makes no difference. YOU’RE ALREADY STATIONARY AND YOU HAVEN’T MOVED.

If cars go into the back of you it is because they ignored a stationary vehicle waiting to turn. It has absolutely nothing to do with the stalling. You don’t stall at speed which would cause a pile up out of nowhere. You stall from stationary and anyone coming up being sees a stationary car and needs to stop. If they don’t, then they’re idiots and dangerous drivers. It had nothing to do with her stalling.

You do not make any decisions on the road based on what the person ahead should or might do by the time you reach them. You make decisions on what they were actually doing. If they’re stationary, you start slowing to a stop and only take off again once they have moved out of that particularly area of space time which you need to drive through.

I'm not sure idiotic is much better than arsehole. Oh course it makes a difference. Try stalling on a motorway and you'd soon find out.

pontipinemum · 25/04/2024 08:17

WarshipRocinante · 24/04/2024 17:03

That’s why you need a dash cam! And witnessed if possible.

She prob has one now, but this was circa 2005 so not a lot of people had them back then. I have one now and it has caught a jeep crash into my parked car - but tbf I didn't need it the guy knocked around and found me, good to have though if he hadn't been so honest.

WarshipRocinante · 25/04/2024 07:35

Nothingandnobody · 25/04/2024 03:38

I'm an arsehole for having a different opinion to you?

Maybe arsehole is too strong a word. But your comment was idiotic. Stalling on a busy road compared to a not busy road makes no difference. YOU’RE ALREADY STATIONARY AND YOU HAVEN’T MOVED.

If cars go into the back of you it is because they ignored a stationary vehicle waiting to turn. It has absolutely nothing to do with the stalling. You don’t stall at speed which would cause a pile up out of nowhere. You stall from stationary and anyone coming up being sees a stationary car and needs to stop. If they don’t, then they’re idiots and dangerous drivers. It had nothing to do with her stalling.

You do not make any decisions on the road based on what the person ahead should or might do by the time you reach them. You make decisions on what they were actually doing. If they’re stationary, you start slowing to a stop and only take off again once they have moved out of that particularly area of space time which you need to drive through.

Fingerscrossedfor2021HK · 25/04/2024 05:45

Always the fault of the person who drives into the back of the other car. He should have been driving at a speed where he was able to stop end of story. Typical aggressive response from someone who was driving like a knob. Hope you are okay!

Nothingandnobody · 25/04/2024 03:38

INeedToClingToSomething · 24/04/2024 22:18

What an absolute arsehole. Him and the PP saying you shouldn't have stalled!

Can't believe he was raging at YOU when he basically drove into a stationary car. Knobhead.

I'm an arsehole for having a different opinion to you?

AllyCart · 24/04/2024 22:43

JammyJellyfish · 24/04/2024 19:24

p.s. have you reported to the police - he may already have form for this and police need to be told of road accidents and also for your insurance. He may already have a lot of points on his license and/or no tax or insurance (check on DVLA website with the reg) - hence the reaction you go.

No, the police don't need to be informed of RTCs if there's no injury and details are exchanged.

AnxiousRabbit · 24/04/2024 22:30

Nothingandnobody · 24/04/2024 14:00

100% his fault. However, you shouldn't be stalling on really busy roads like the A1. It's massively dangerous so I can understand why he said what he did.

Because stalling is a choice and OP should only do it on minor roads!???

NobbyNobbs · 24/04/2024 22:26

"He expected me to move off and I stalled. He said I shouldn’t be on the main roads. I passed my test in January so I’m a new driver"

Dick. Head.

(Him)

You are not in the wrong.
Hope you're ok Flowers

INeedToClingToSomething · 24/04/2024 22:18

What an absolute arsehole. Him and the PP saying you shouldn't have stalled!

Can't believe he was raging at YOU when he basically drove into a stationary car. Knobhead.

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 24/04/2024 20:06

It was definitely his fault, so don't worry. Make sure you report this fully to your insurance company, especially the fact that he demanded a photo of your driving licence.
If you ever have another car accident do not be bullied into this, just say you haven't got it on you.