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To be disappointed about the book?

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AnnaSewell · 24/04/2024 01:14

My daughter is in her mid-twenties. For Xmas she bought me a slim paperback book. I thought at the time it was a fairly modest gift but thanked her and put it on one side.

This evening I picked it up to read. I found she had omitted to rub out the pencil price put in at the charity shop. The book had cost £2.49.

I would like to have been worth a tenner.

OP posts:
JanglingJack · 28/04/2024 13:49

DBSFstupid · 28/04/2024 11:05

The first part of your post is disingenuous and missing the whole point.

The second part .. you still laugh at the fact that your son was giving it to his favourite MIL, crossed out the in law bit and lied?

I would have been hurt by this at the total lack of thought and then lying to you.

Some of us know that there are more important things to get 'hurt' about. We look back and laugh.

You know - hahaha

I'm sorry these things and a piece of cardboard mean so much to you.

Not my concern.

Thank you though.

chaosmaker · 28/04/2024 13:44

AnnaSewell · 24/04/2024 01:14

My daughter is in her mid-twenties. For Xmas she bought me a slim paperback book. I thought at the time it was a fairly modest gift but thanked her and put it on one side.

This evening I picked it up to read. I found she had omitted to rub out the pencil price put in at the charity shop. The book had cost £2.49.

I would like to have been worth a tenner.

Me and my partner always get charity shop books for each other especially if they are out of print and have been trying to find them. Sad you only see value in how much someone spends on you.

CrispieCake · 28/04/2024 13:27

thepastinsidethepresent · 28/04/2024 13:25

Completely disagree. No, children don't ask to be born, but if a parent has put time, thought and love into raising them, they deserve some acknowledgement and appreciation.

I agree. So many people trying to excuse not making an effort on your mum's birthday. Assuming no back story, it really shouldn't be expecting too much for adults to show a little appreciation for the people who support them and are there for them in their lives.

thepastinsidethepresent · 28/04/2024 13:25

puddingisbest · 24/04/2024 09:47

Our children owe us nothing we as parents chose to have them they didnt ask us to be born.
Be grateful.

Completely disagree. No, children don't ask to be born, but if a parent has put time, thought and love into raising them, they deserve some acknowledgement and appreciation.

Ghosttofu99 · 28/04/2024 13:08

How does she treat you and how much time does she ‘spend’ on you? That is the only value that can show what your relationship is worth to her.

DishSoap · 28/04/2024 13:05

If she's spent plenty on other people then I can understand being hurt by this. However, some people just don't/can't budget a whole lot for Christmas-- our budget for Christmas this year will be about £300 for all gifts, food, drinks etc. (though it helps that we don't eat meat and don't drink alcohol!).

sarah419 · 28/04/2024 13:05

exomoon · 24/04/2024 03:50

I would reduce spend to £10-20 on her present in future, given you’re on a low wage.

shes on low wage without rent. her daughter has to pay rent - rendering whatever free money she has after as minimal as someone on low wage if not even less. who is the parent in this relationship? i would never expect my child to spend more on a gift for me than i spend on them and i would love nothing more than to spoil my child - and not act like someone who needs to be spoilt myself. Sounds like a toxic parenting relationship that is deserving of no more than £10.

sarah419 · 28/04/2024 13:02

Either her finances are very tight - in which case might be worth asking if she needs help and actually help her, or you are not worth even a tenner, and then it’s worth reevaluating your parenting and what could have went wrong, and try to mend it. In both cases, remember you are the parent, and the onus is on you to fix whatever it is and take initiative (rather than blaming your daughter).

GoldenOreosAreAnOkCustardCreamSubstitute · 28/04/2024 12:56

YABU for not disclosing the book title and author. Wink

cerisepanther73 · 28/04/2024 12:51

@easylikeasundaymorn

"You've hit on the nail" with emotionally insightful post..

Hadn't thought 🤔 of it like that...

cerisepanther73 · 28/04/2024 12:44

@AnnaSewell

I brought a satirical outrageous funny quirky book from a second hand stall stall run by a friends of local hospital to me,
when i had a routine hospital appointment,

I loved reading it,

and made the mistake of then bringing this book to a book group i used to go to with a well well being charity,

Book group was very popular thing amongst several wellbeing activities that went on there,
we would read all kinds of books contemporary ones and more serious ones classics like Hounds of Baskinvilles etc,

we work have quite interesting discussions come out of reading certain books..

easylikeasundaymorn · 28/04/2024 12:07

LT1982 · 28/04/2024 04:33

Have you not heard of the cost of living crisis? You flippantly say daughter could have added x, you or z to the gift. Maybe she actually couldn't. I'd rather my child didn't go hungry or get into debt for my Xmas present and I'd actually be discreetly asking if they need financial help

In which case the daughter should have mentioned this to her mother before christmas, either saying 'can we not do presents/only do small presents this year, I'm struggling for money,' or, if she was completely broke, even asking her mother to give her money for Christmas rather than a present.

Also OP has said she is low-waged while her dd has a professional salary, so no reason why dd couldn't actually have more disposable income than OP!

If you aren't materialistic and don't think the amount is what matters when exchanging presents, or care too much about the environment to buy things that aren't necessary, then once you're an adult you should make this clear to your family before Christmas. 'Let's not do presents this year, let's just enjoy spending time together.' Or 'Shall we just do small presents this year given the cost of living?'

Buying something incredibly cheap for someone else but then happily accepting a present worth approx 32x more is not being frugal or caring, it's being cheeky and tight!

In this case, the DD not only didn't say beforehand that they shouldn't exchange expensive presents, but didn't say anything afterwards when she realised her mother had spent much more on her. Anyone with basic decency would have been mortified and said "Oh mum you shouldn't have spent so much on me" etc.

Which shows the DD DOES like nice things, and values expensive gifts when they are for her, just doesn't think she should reciprocate. Which is less indicative of a thoughtful, caring, non-materialistic person, than of a selfish, tight one!

1offnamechange · 28/04/2024 11:49

anyolddinosaur · 28/04/2024 11:45

Rather suspect a book I was given at Christmas came from a charity shop. I dont mind that as it was in good condition, I wouldnt appreciate a torn or dirty one unless it was an out of print edition of a book by a favourite author. It's in my pile of books I dont like enough to keep and will be heading for a charity shop sometime.

It's the thought that counts but sometimes the thought is I dont care about you enough to think of something you'd actually like, enjoy or benefit from.

"It's the thought that counts but sometimes the thought is I dont care about you enough to think of something you'd actually like, enjoy or benefit from."

This perfectly expresses it!

anyolddinosaur · 28/04/2024 11:45

Rather suspect a book I was given at Christmas came from a charity shop. I dont mind that as it was in good condition, I wouldnt appreciate a torn or dirty one unless it was an out of print edition of a book by a favourite author. It's in my pile of books I dont like enough to keep and will be heading for a charity shop sometime.

It's the thought that counts but sometimes the thought is I dont care about you enough to think of something you'd actually like, enjoy or benefit from.

Nanny0gg · 28/04/2024 11:41

Why are mothers so (generalisation) undervalued on here?

Why are so many missing the point?

A charity shop present is fine if there is care and thought behind it
It's fine if that's the 'usual thing' in your family

It is not fine if it's any old tat. It's not fine if it's the first thing you've picked up. It's not fine if you've given no thought to the recipient. It's not fine if you can't even be arsed to take the price off. There are plenty of books that are in good condition that I'm sure she could have found.

And I'll bet my house it's nothing to do with being green, or recycling or saving the planet

It's because she doesn't care and she's showing it

Vonesk · 28/04/2024 11:34

Was it a Book relating to a special subject which fascinates you?????
Or connected to your place of birth????
Or helpful in one of your hobbies????
Its slightly disappointing, Ive been there. Its mystifying because it stops you in your tracks .
Esp. if when you was younger you gave bigger gifts to elders. I think its par for the course as they grow up and become more distant. Non the less Heartbreaking. Once, I was that twenty year old. -I gave a cheap bottle of Body Lotion to an elderly relative. I was stunned the following year :
She gave it back:As a gift to me. I was shocked. I realised I should have been more considerate as I usually gave big meaningful presents.

QuizNight · 28/04/2024 11:34

Mothership4two · 28/04/2024 11:27

So you would only spend £2.49 on your mum or dad @QuizNight?

No, more fool me. I generally spend between £75-£100 on each of them (I get about £20-£30 gift back joint from both but that’s neither here nor there) but my mum’s lucky she gets anything to be honest. That’s a story for a different day though.

ArchaeoSpy · 28/04/2024 11:31

for me its the thought and personally yes i can see your point op @AnnaSewell but if its the same book and only the price thats different then id be impressed they still got me the item and saved some ££ as then they may have more ££ towards other gifts for others etc

Nanny0gg · 28/04/2024 11:30

TotteringByRosie · 27/04/2024 07:26

I think a book is a lovely gift. What a smart daughter you have to have found such a thrifty present. It's a breath of fresh air to receive something that isn't a pointless waste of cash.

A book is a lovely gift if it's an author/subject you like. And has been bought with care and thought

There's an awful lot of books out there that I absolutely would not give you a Thank You for,

Mothership4two · 28/04/2024 11:27

So you would only spend £2.49 on your mum or dad @QuizNight?

Mothership4two · 28/04/2024 11:21

Some posters have gone back over OP's other threads @NalafromtheLionKing and they seem to be have had significant issues, so yes it could be 'pointed'

Itiswhysofew · 28/04/2024 11:21

Tightwad. Very thoughtless.

NalafromtheLionKing · 28/04/2024 11:13

Have you and your daughter fallen out recently? If not, it may be a bit pointed eg she is saving for a flat/house and feels you could be helping her out more if you are nearly mortgage free (not saying you should, just how she might feel).

scottishGirl · 28/04/2024 11:13

I'm with you OP. I earn a similar salary to your daughter, age 31, I have minimal debt. No children. I am however saving for a house deposit.

Fair enough if it's a book she knows you would really like but I would have added in a couple of other items to bulk up the Value. I'm talking something like supermarket chocolates/flowers or a voucher from a groupon type website maybe. Nothing particularly expensive, but given I'm an adult that earns a decent salary, I would personally want to give more than a book from a charity shop.
My parents were able to give me plenty of presents during my childhood/teen years at birthdays so I like to show appreciation for that now that I can give them something back. As well as just appreciating everything they have done for me in general over the years, not related to money/finances.

DBSFstupid · 28/04/2024 11:05

JanglingJack · 24/04/2024 02:33

I'll send your daughter £7.51, so she can forward to you, so you know your worth.

It's the thought that counts.

My son bought me a Mother's day card (he's in his 20's) for his favourite Mother In Law. He just crossed out in law and proceeded to tell me the shops were sold out.
We still laugh over it.

Re the book, we'd be - do you remember when you bought me that book and forgot to rub the price off? 😂 Eejit.

The first part of your post is disingenuous and missing the whole point.

The second part .. you still laugh at the fact that your son was giving it to his favourite MIL, crossed out the in law bit and lied?

I would have been hurt by this at the total lack of thought and then lying to you.