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AnnaSewell · 24/04/2024 01:14

My daughter is in her mid-twenties. For Xmas she bought me a slim paperback book. I thought at the time it was a fairly modest gift but thanked her and put it on one side.

This evening I picked it up to read. I found she had omitted to rub out the pencil price put in at the charity shop. The book had cost £2.49.

I would like to have been worth a tenner.

OP posts:
LindaDawn · 24/04/2024 09:45

I would be pleased that she got me a gift and that she was supporting a charity shop. Much rather children kept in regular touch and did other thoughtful things like making me a cup of tea, cheering me up if I need it etc etc.

DodoTired · 24/04/2024 09:43

Warrantedrab · 24/04/2024 09:35

The OP immediately came back to me and said her daughter is on a professional salary and has no debt.

My immediate thought was she can’t possibly be so sure. I worked so hard in my twenties at keeping up appearances because I wanted my parents to think I was successful and not be disappointed in my. Even now they don’t know how much of a mess I got myself into. Between a high rent and high levels of expenses though things like having to socialise with work, work clothes etc my COL was bonkers.

£2.50 is less than a coffee in London.
surely if she was so worked up about appearances she could forego coffee for a week and buy something more thoughtful.

if the explanation is that the daughter is in debt from trying to keep appearances with friends and colleagues so that she has £2.50 left for her mum’s Christmas present- how is that any better? She values others more than her mum, which is exactly what stings

whistablenative · 24/04/2024 09:39

SummerFeverVenice · 24/04/2024 01:20

I feel it is the thought that counts, not the £££ spent. I love to read so a book is a great gift for me, and if my DC finds one in a charity shop rather than new, I would feel proud of their eco-conscientiousness and frugality.

Agreed. A £2.50 book chosen for me that I really like is worth more than a new hardback costing £20 about some personality I've never heard of / would hate.

If you think the book was chosen with care, try not to let the price tag upset you.

(said from someone whose own mother bought her a charity shop T shirt for her 40th birthday, 10 whole sizes too big, oh yes ...)

teabooks · 24/04/2024 09:36

I love reading and have many books.
My children in their 20s have a handsome wage they earn more than me but its their money they have got me books as low as 20p from charity shops or 5 for a £1.
To me its the fact they still think of me.
Its not about the price tag is it.
Money is tight i have always told mine dont spend out on me you owe me nothing.
I rather have a secondhand book or secondhand something else than both of them spending silly amounts on something flashy.
Even for xmass and birthdays i get a holiday voucher but honestly i do like the books more.

Warrantedrab · 24/04/2024 09:35

Lengokengo · 24/04/2024 08:42

This! Absolutely! I had a professional job but rents were high and I didn’t have a good enough relationship with my parents to admit to my lowish salary and strained financial circumstances.

As I had a professional services’ job and as my sister was ‘only’ a teacher, they paid for things for her ( holidays etc), though she actually earned far more than me and lived in a much cheaper party of the country.

Also the dynamics of childhood come into play ( I was seen as successful and to be taken down a peg or two; my sister was seen as helpless ( even though she is older) and to be helped and supported. Not helpful.

It’s impossible to say what your child’s circumstances are, or your relative position s. Some kids are thoughtless, some parents clueless. Try to take it in good faith and keep an open mind.

The OP immediately came back to me and said her daughter is on a professional salary and has no debt.

My immediate thought was she can’t possibly be so sure. I worked so hard in my twenties at keeping up appearances because I wanted my parents to think I was successful and not be disappointed in my. Even now they don’t know how much of a mess I got myself into. Between a high rent and high levels of expenses though things like having to socialise with work, work clothes etc my COL was bonkers.

BillieTheFish · 24/04/2024 09:33

I bought my friend a second-hand book for Christmas, about a particular stately home she liked. It is out of print, and I sourced it on eBay. It was in good condition and the seller was kind enough to wrap it in Christmas paper, write a gift tag with a note from me and post it out to her as a gift.

Needmorelego · 24/04/2024 09:27

That might not have been what she paid for it. I frequently buy books from eBay, abe books, secondhand book shops and charity shops and they often have a price written inside that's not what I paid - because that price is from when the book was sold a dozen times ago in a different shop and no one has rubbed out the price.
(Most charity shops don't write the price inside these days anyway. They either have a price sticker on the front or a "all books £1" sign on the shelf)

AmaryllisChorus · 24/04/2024 09:27

I get how you feel OP, and I am a very unmaterialistic person. It's an underlying feeling that, 'It's just mum so any old shit will do,' rather than, 'My mum, who has done so much for me - how can I show her my love?'

One of my DC always does me a hand drawn card on mother's day and for birthdays. The other always gives me a card from a pack I bought him as a stocking filler years ago. Neither cost anything but one shows thought and the other doesn't. And thought = affection sometimes, when you've cared for them for two decades.

exomoon · 24/04/2024 09:24

ASighMadeOfStone · 24/04/2024 08:36

Advanced search is useful. And you're right.

I had a look at OP’s posts, she seems very reasonable to me.

Her daughter sounds judgemental and interfering.

burnoutbabe · 24/04/2024 09:24

As a slightl aside

I buy lots of books for my dad for his university course -philosophy and ancient Romans. Lots of those books I'd get off Amazon and may be second hand.

Those ones may have come via charity shop at sone point. Most of my legal books were second hand and sone from oxfam book shops with good reference sections.

So in that case, for a book you wanted, then it's fine. She may have got it from Amazon for £10 not spent £2.50.

If it's RANDOM CRIME NOVEL then it's a bit cheap, if it was say a good hardback biography-say Michelle Obama's then I'd overlook the charity aspect -assuming I enjoyed that sort of book.

BobbyBiscuits · 24/04/2024 09:22

If it's a book by an author you like or on a subject of interest to you, then it's a thoughtful gift. If it's just something random then not so much.
If she has kids, could it be she spent most of her money on their gifts? Or is she just struggling for money in general? If none of those it seems a bit rubbish. Maybe a nice relevant book, plus another gift would've been better? The cost itself isn't really the issue but I can see why it doesn't look good. But a lot of Xmas gifts are dross anyway and get shoved into cupboards or given away by January.

Beansandneedles · 24/04/2024 09:21

Present giving feels like such a minefield.

When my sister asked what she could buy my son for Christmas we requested one Julia Donaldson book of her choice as we were starting our collection. Because she found some second hand and had an idea of how much a gift should be worth she gave us about 20 books. They've been the absolute faves for years, but the point is we'd have been thrilled with just the one, it didn't matter to me if she spent £20 or £2. We often say that second hand gifts are fine, and then because people have a financial expectation when it comes to gift giving we end up with an absurd amount of stuff because £20 goes much further in a charity shop than in a toy shop or regular book shop or wherever. I'm told that the gift is the choice of the giver, and the recipients role is to be grateful regardless of what was given. I don't always agree with this tbh, but the amount spent wouldn't be something which bothered me personally.

Think the world would be a better place if we cared less about what something was worth and more about what it was worth to us.

Hannahspeltbackwards · 24/04/2024 09:19

I would never expect gifts from my adult daughter, but I am happy with anything she gets me.
This wouldn't have stressed me in the slightest.
I love reading, and pass them on to friends when I have read them (they pass theirs on to me).
I guess it is the fact it was a gift that upset you, but even so, I would rather my daughter saved for what she needed rather than spend money on me.

betterangels · 24/04/2024 09:17

Fairyliz · 24/04/2024 06:36

Oh come on; why are women expected to value themselves so little?
If the ops daughter was struggling or a single mum fair enough, but she is on a professional salary and her mum is low paid.
Has anyone on MN literally only spent £2.49 on a present for their mum? Oncr my kids got part time jobs as teenagers they spent more than that on me.

Agree with this. I understand, OP. I'd be upset.

Scale back what you spend. You're on a low wage, and she's an adult with a professional job.

Flopsy145 · 24/04/2024 09:13

This sounds very ungrateful, even if I just got my mum a card she would happy as would I if that's all my DD got me when she's old enough to buy presents. Christmas has become very gift focussed, and it can be incredibly stressful and expensive. Time spent with each other is far more valuable

Beansandneedles · 24/04/2024 09:12

PoochiesPinkEars · 24/04/2024 01:22

I choose books that I think will be loved by the reader. A book worth 50p can be a memorable and fabulous read.

So I don't get where you're coming from. I've never judged the worth of a present by what it cost the giver - I had one superb present given to me by a friend that had cost her precisely nothing!
Unless the book is something she knows you wouldn't like.

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this.

theleafandnotthetree · 24/04/2024 09:10

Overthebow · 24/04/2024 06:52

Maybe she challenged herself to buy all gifts from a charity shop? It’s better for the planet and why spend more money then you have to, especially as she has high rent and doesn’t own a house yet. We are on a high income but often buy from charity shops because second hand is better for lots of reasons and also to save money. Idk uh rather a thoughtful mug off that cost £2.50 than something random that you don’t like for £50.

Edited

Fair enough, but maybe she could have bought 4 or 5 books then. That's what I do with my mum - every occasion she gets a bundle of charity shop books that I have thought she will like which I've picked up over the preceeding months. I also buy her a top or something she needs.

Pickled21 · 24/04/2024 08:59

Has she grown up in a family where money has always been tight, your dh or partner (if you have one) has never bothered with gifts for you and you've accepted that or does she lavish money on herself and be tight on others? All of that would affect my response.

Tbh money was tight when we were growing up and my parents never really bought gifts for themselves instead focusing on us. I like to treat them and I do buy them stuff I know they will like or need. I can ask my mum directly wheras my dad is harder. So I might get my mum something for a fiver in passing because she will like said gift but for her birthday or a special event I'd spend more. Whilst I know she wouldn't want a lavish gift (she'd be on at me for wasting money) a pebble wouldn't quite do it either.

KimberleyClark · 24/04/2024 08:57

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 24/04/2024 08:16

Of course it may be the subject matter that is more disappointing.

It wasn't this one was it?

Totally below the belt.

PoppingTomorrow · 24/04/2024 08:52

ASighMadeOfStone · 24/04/2024 08:36

Advanced search is useful. And you're right.

Go on, save my poor thumbs

Lengokengo · 24/04/2024 08:42

Warrantedrab · 24/04/2024 02:43

I remember in my twenties. Horrible time. I’d been to uni, got a job, my own place, my family was so proud. I’d done everything that was expected of me. My entry level graduate job was crap pay and never kept up salary wise with inflation, I ended up accumulating £7k of credit card debt trying to preserve the image that I was doing ok.

I remember dreading Christmas and birthdays thinking I would need to supply half a dozen presents to various family members knowing that that was what they expected from their successful daughter. Wish I’d been sensible enough to just pick out a thoughtful token gift rather than all the stress and upset I inflicted on myself trying to keep up appearances.

This! Absolutely! I had a professional job but rents were high and I didn’t have a good enough relationship with my parents to admit to my lowish salary and strained financial circumstances.

As I had a professional services’ job and as my sister was ‘only’ a teacher, they paid for things for her ( holidays etc), though she actually earned far more than me and lived in a much cheaper party of the country.

Also the dynamics of childhood come into play ( I was seen as successful and to be taken down a peg or two; my sister was seen as helpless ( even though she is older) and to be helped and supported. Not helpful.

It’s impossible to say what your child’s circumstances are, or your relative position s. Some kids are thoughtless, some parents clueless. Try to take it in good faith and keep an open mind.

ASighMadeOfStone · 24/04/2024 08:36

ttcat37 · 24/04/2024 08:21

I would love to know the back story as to why someone would only spend £2.50 on their mum’s Christmas present because there absolutely must be one.

Advanced search is useful. And you're right.

5128gap · 24/04/2024 08:36

Noyesnoyes · 24/04/2024 07:58

My mattering is not connected by cost of presents.

Yeah you're probably the "insta" Christmas present person, look at all the wonderful presents I got, so expensive, so thoughtful, so incredible that everyone thinks so much of meeeeee!

Whilst really your relationships are broken.

We all know those people.

There's a place between lavish unnecessary 'insta worthy' gift giving and £2.50 on your mum for Christmas. It's the place the vast majority of people occupy, where they tend to offer a level of generosity to others conversent with their relationship, means and norms within the family. Vanishingly few people occupy a space where a charity shop book would be their chosen gift for their mother, unless this was understood as part of the family ethos, or they were in hardship. So I'm not sure why people persist in pretending its normal, and that anything else is some form of decadence and greed.

DietrichandDiMaggio · 24/04/2024 08:34

ethelredonagoodday · 24/04/2024 06:46

My daughter is only a teenager, and has a Saturday job. She'd spend more than £2.50 on my birthday!
I don't think you're wrong to be disappointed OP. You're not suggesting she should be buying anything lavish, but £2.50, especially when she's working, is a meagre amount to spend on your own mother!

Exactly.
If my son, who's a student, saw a book he thought I'd like in a charity shop for £2.49, he'd buy it and just give me it the next time he saw me - he certainly wouldn't be thinking that's Christmas/Mum's birthday sorted.

BigFatPuddingMonster · 24/04/2024 08:33

All the posters defending the daughter's sheer thoughtlessness are talking bollocks. The OP received a thoroughly shit present and has every right to feel aggrieved.