Right wing thugs 'protecting the flag' on St George's Day

Don't be ridiculous. I was actually looking at the second picture but in the first picture they are raising their arms. Did you think the BLM supporters were making Hitler salutes too?

Then why are they making Hitler salutes?

Yes, I was going to point out that it's usually white working class men that actually end up fighting the fascists, not the so called 'anti fascists' who suddenly claim to be pacifist when any talk of conscription arises. We only have to look to the WW1/WW2 to see this.

So much as I eyeroll at all the Tommy Robinson lot, make no mistake these are the men that will be defending you when the shit hits the fan.

No, they wouldn't.

Why? What is it that makes you feel that? I can assure you you're not.

So, you don't think 'erosion of British culture' is a big part of it?

And if you look at the cultures most of them are worried are 'taking over' you'll find they're usually Islamic cultures which have horrendous women's rights records. As I said, it's a lot more complex than most give it credit for.

Thing is, if there was ever a need for an English army to defend England from attack - it would be the very people who some absolutely hate who would sign up to defend you. Defend you to the death too.

I dont FEEL superior to that lot in the photo.
I know

But they did cause trouble.

yes, groups of white working class men are definitely marching waving England flags becuse they are worried about the rights and safety of women.

A lot of people on the left seem to struggle with the idea that you can simultaneously be both oppressed and an oppressor. (I'm not right wing btw, I just see the hypocrisy on both sides similar to how some feminists and MRAs are pretty much contemporaries in their hate for the other sex).

Ummm a bunch of white working class people with some flags. I've no idea why it triggers you so much apart from having a superiority complex. And don't look like they're causing any trouble unlike JSO and the pro Palestinians.

I think what gets lost in all this is the reasons behind the widespread anger we see. No doubt, there are a lot of racists on the bandwagon too and these protests no doubt appeal to the hard of thinking, but I think it's also more complex than that.

Things like the relative indifference of the police and the left to events like the Rotherham scandal and the 1200 sexual assaults in Germany on NYE 2016 are the sort of things I'm talking about. The latter was pretty much an outright cover up by the police with them literally saying the night 'went without event' until all the stories started coming out on social media.

I've seen it on here a fair few times too. Most recently in a couple of heated threads where posters were linking data about asylum seekers and immigrants being massively over represented in sexual assault and rape statistics - e.g. being 1-2% of the population in France yet perpetrating almost 20% of 'serious sex crimes including rape.'

The very same posters that wax lyrical about women's safety etc were actively trying to shut down the debate, seemingly because they didn't like the fact that ethnic minorities were the culprits. Personally, I think it's unsurprising that men from cultures with horrendous women's rights records would continue their ill treatment of women tbh, yet it's taboo to discuss this.

This is the type of stuff that causes people to become angry IMHO.

True. To get to Parliament we walked past the back of the MoD. Covered in red paint from some other previous protest.

Where are the floats and the marching bands? England you need to up your game.

I'm surprised they managed to escape the 15 minute cities they think they're trapped in

Tbf, there's usually more than six arrests at 'anti fascist' protests. And sometimes burning cars too. And that's before we get to Extinction Rebellion et al.

Our lot never seem to have a purpose other than trouble; it’s as though it’s an act of defiance to wave the England flag rather than a celebration of all things England can and should be proud of; our heritage, our massive contribution to democracy, culture, creativity, science and medicine around the world etc. Other nations seem so much better than us at valuing their culture without it being a statement against someone or something else (although I guess this is just an example of a small number that sadly grab the headlines).

What are they protecting it from?

What would you describe that lot in the photos as?

I've no problem with people celebrating St George's Day. I love celebrations. Floats, fairs, Morris dancing, cakes. Celebrations are class.😁

This, however, was not a celebration. It was a bunch of people causing trouble while wrapped in flags. The trouble kicked off before the event was even due to start. Just because Tommy Robinson wasn't in that picture doesn't mean he wasn't there. He was. He gave a speech and everything.

None of the people I saw just wanted to celebrate St George.

They were much keener on generally shouting and trying to provoke fights.

There is no sign of Tommy Robinson in that picture. And you are the same sort of people that say that it's not the pro Palestinian marchers fault that there are a load of hamas supporters and anti semites on the same march. So how do you know they are TR supporters and not just wanting to celebrate St George's Day?