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Right wing thugs 'protecting the flag' on St George's Day

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newnamethanks · 23/04/2024 22:41

Cruella's boot boys out on the street again protecting our British freedoms in their usual brutish fashion with violent disorder. She must feel very proud.

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Livelovebehappy · 24/04/2024 20:30

The thing is, it’s only on MN where a majority think it’s absolutely fine to let thousands of economic migrants come to the UK - open borders and all that. In the real world, a majority of people don’t want it. Generally, people who champion it are usually nicely set up in their own homes, use private schooling and private health care, don’t live in the towns where it’s a problem. These people just can’t see that we can’t pull houses out of our arses. People born here can’t get a house, they have to live in temporary accommodation for years before getting somewhere to call home. Those who use NHS can’t get appointments, have to wait for years for operations. Schools are bursting. So why would anyone with a brain cell actually think it’s okay to allow thousands of extra people into the country? Bonkers….

Louloulouenna · 24/04/2024 20:29

Try googling it, Britain has halved its emissions.

Imgoingandnevercomingback · 24/04/2024 20:28

Louloulouenna · 24/04/2024 20:27

@Imgoingandnevercomingback ignoring climate change? Britain had reduced emissions faster than any industrialised country in the world.

Hmmm

Louloulouenna · 24/04/2024 20:27

@Imgoingandnevercomingback ignoring climate change? Britain had reduced emissions faster than any industrialised country in the world.

ghostyslovesheets · 24/04/2024 20:25

See now I am confused - was it:

a) a happy celebration of St George complete with flags, beer and shouting or

b) an angry protest about brown people, boats, immigration and the state of the country?

Because now we are being told it's all about our small island, we can;t take them all, 'safe countries', etc - but I thought it was a happy little gathering of nice people singing God Save The King interrupted by evil police?

Combattingthemoaners · 24/04/2024 20:24

Thevelvelletes · 24/04/2024 01:43

With a rise in protests promoting foreign causes no surprise really that there was a far right to counter that.
It's all about division being exploited by people for their own ends.
At least there wasn't anyone there that was openly ethnic.

The far right are not antagonised by “foreign causes” they’re sparked by the openly right wing rhetoric in our political landscape and media.

Imgoingandnevercomingback · 24/04/2024 20:20

itsjustbiology · 24/04/2024 20:16

It is with all due respect not a small number of desperate people though is it? This year alone and we are only in April nearly 7000 poor people arrived. 400 plus yesterday alone. All needing to be supported. It cannot go on surely everyone sees that?

It is a problem. It’s unsafe and desperate people are dying. We still don’t need to angrily blame the sanctuary seekers for all our problems and for doing what any of us might if we were desperate and had the bottle. A lot of our our problems are down to our own stupidity. Voting in a party that doesn’t care about people. Voting for Brexit. Ignoring climate change.

derxa · 24/04/2024 20:19

JimBobsWife · 24/04/2024 17:55

@Iscreamtea it's not illegal to drink in the street in the UK.

The point I'm making is that the police had already made up their mind about this parade, or march, or whatever it was. They put out a tweet to say they expected Far Right people to be on the march. They put rules in place about where they could parade and pretty much pinned them to a small square of pavement. They kettled them almost immediately, they used riot gear and horses, they increased stop and search powers and removal of masks. Most of the unrest happened after the police took immediately aggressive action, not before.

None of these tactics have been used at the pro-Palestine marches which is why they are so 'peaceful'. Even people waving flags with Nazi swastikas on them don't get arrested in a hurry or until someone complains. They reserve that for lone Jewish men walking down the street.

To suggest that this is balanced and fair policing is laughable. And I have no particular allegiance with either group, just observing and stating facts.

Well said

JessS1990 · 24/04/2024 20:19

Hoppinggreen · 24/04/2024 20:18

I have had a few laughs at this thread but there are actually some quite terrifying people here

I assumed that they were being comedic.

Hoppinggreen · 24/04/2024 20:18

I have had a few laughs at this thread but there are actually some quite terrifying people here

Imgoingandnevercomingback · 24/04/2024 20:17

JessS1990 · 24/04/2024 20:16

I have no idea, it was just a series of relatively unconnected words in a post.

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Ah. I’ll quit trying to figure it out then 😂

itsjustbiology · 24/04/2024 20:16

It is with all due respect not a small number of desperate people though is it? This year alone and we are only in April nearly 7000 poor people arrived. 400 plus yesterday alone. All needing to be supported. It cannot go on surely everyone sees that?

JessS1990 · 24/04/2024 20:16

Imgoingandnevercomingback · 24/04/2024 20:11

What do you mean?

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I have no idea, it was just a series of relatively unconnected words in a post.

Imgoingandnevercomingback · 24/04/2024 20:14

itsjustbiology · 24/04/2024 20:04

If you genuinely believe that then I respect your view. Sadly I do not. France.Italy,Spain all very safe countries to pass through on their way to good old blighty. Where they are housed,clothed. teched up with mobiles and bikes,medically cared for as a priority...Free of charge obviously.You think they dont know this? They do, the same way as they throw away their passports on the way over. The only difference is the above stated countries do not offer them the same. That is not seeking asylum to be safe. I would go to the first safe country for shelter in my desperation and be glad to be there not navigate which can economically support me best.

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Wouldn’t you? Really? Wouldn’t you try and make it to a place where you know people already? Really? Either way, we can have conversations about immigration without angrily blaming sanctuary seekers who are just doing what any of us would do in the same circumstances just because there are powerful dog whistlers trying to stir up division.

JessS1990 · 24/04/2024 20:13

Thepeppapigfanclub · 24/04/2024 20:09

You see where this leads...you'll be sorry. But you think you know best and are being kind. You're not.

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I think it is fairly plan for all most to see that the governments ignoring of vital services for the population and instead focusing on a small number of desperate people has led to poor services for very many of us.
I am indeed sorry it has come to this, but change is coming.

G123456789 · 24/04/2024 20:12

Purplebunnie · 24/04/2024 19:27

We had a patron saint before George. St Edmund who was English as far as I can work out.

That wonderful woefully useless King Richard the 1st prayed at a site dedicated to St George before he won killed thousands of people in a battle in a far land. where I personally don't think he should have been. He spent only 6 months in England but everyone thinks he's bloody marvelous. I don't. He then started taking the St George's flag into battle. Edward III made St George our patron saint.

I'm all for bringing Edmund back as our patron saint, makes more sense than George who is patron to many many countries. He wouldn't miss us

Flag is a white dragon on a red background - will make no difference to the Union Flag

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Yes full.agree with everything...interesting fact. Richards heart didn't make it to England, it's buried with his mother Eleanor of Aquetain(sp) in France

Imgoingandnevercomingback · 24/04/2024 20:11

JessS1990 · 24/04/2024 20:06

I think it is demonstrating the power of having a brain cell.

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What do you mean?

Imgoingandnevercomingback · 24/04/2024 20:10

Thepeppapigfanclub · 24/04/2024 20:04

When you see what this does to your local area, you'll think differently.

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hmmm.

Thepeppapigfanclub · 24/04/2024 20:09

JessS1990 · 24/04/2024 20:07

I can already see what making desperate people a scapegoat while ignoring the real issues that my local area faces thanks.

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You see where this leads...you'll be sorry. But you think you know best and are being kind. You're not.

LakieLady · 24/04/2024 20:08

JessS1990 · 24/04/2024 17:20

I've got a bit confused, does one get a knight (white or otherwise) with the horse, I quite fancy having a knight.

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Be careful what you wish for. You could end up with Sir Jacob Rees Mogg.😆

JessS1990 · 24/04/2024 20:08

Thepeppapigfanclub · 24/04/2024 20:06

All of you do-gooders want to think long and hard - because you're going to be very sorry. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do we need to be more woke?

JessS1990 · 24/04/2024 20:07

Thepeppapigfanclub · 24/04/2024 20:04

When you see what this does to your local area, you'll think differently.

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I can already see what making desperate people a scapegoat while ignoring the real issues that my local area faces thanks.

JessS1990 · 24/04/2024 20:06

Imgoingandnevercomingback · 24/04/2024 20:04

What?

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I think it is demonstrating the power of having a brain cell.

Thepeppapigfanclub · 24/04/2024 20:06

All of you do-gooders want to think long and hard - because you're going to be very sorry. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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