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MIL on holiday over baby due date

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Nushyboots · 23/04/2024 20:02

So AIBU or more importantly are we being unreasonable?

My hubby and his mother have had a 'good' relationship from what I have seen since we have been together (12 years). However since lockdown her and her husband ( she remarried ages ago ) have become increasingly detached from hubby and his two brothers families, she has gone from popping in or going on little breaks with us all as group to making excuses and avoiding having to spend too much time with us all.

So we are expecting our little bubs in June and she asked what the dates were as said she wants to book a holiday across the due date. I gave her the date, she then messaged hubby and said she has booked holiday across due date with 5 days either side being away. Hubby is really pissed off as this is the 3rd holiday they have been on this year as MIL doesnt work and FIL is semi retired due to health issues ( not managed well Diabetes related issues) He was unhappy when she told him and although my mother has come from overseas to visit and has decided to stay for the birth at the time of the holiday booking we nor MIL knew that she has surprised us with staying for the birth.

She is oblivious that hubby is upset and refuses to engage with her really anymore. He says he isnt even going to tell her when baby arrives if she is away as she obviously doesnt care ( going on holiday to usual hotel in usual resort)

is he being unreasonable? any advice for him?

OP posts:
IVbumble · 24/04/2024 10:08

MIL's husband sounds controlling. Abusive men try to make you miss important events.

MsRosley · 24/04/2024 10:07

BIossomtoes · 24/04/2024 09:48

A whole lot of projection going on!

Yes, I’ll put my hands up to that. My last birthday was a revelation, I suddenly realised just how few years I have left on this planet and that those in good health will be even fewer. So I’m going to spend them pleasing myself. I’ve done parenting, I’ve done caring daughtering and it’s my turn to be a bit selfish now. I hope OP’s mil has reached the same conclusion.

Good for you. There's no one so disapproved of as a woman doing exactly what she pleases. Funnily enough, men rarely come in for the same flack and they usually do what they please.

horseyhorsey17 · 24/04/2024 10:04

BIossomtoes · 24/04/2024 09:48

A whole lot of projection going on!

Yes, I’ll put my hands up to that. My last birthday was a revelation, I suddenly realised just how few years I have left on this planet and that those in good health will be even fewer. So I’m going to spend them pleasing myself. I’ve done parenting, I’ve done caring daughtering and it’s my turn to be a bit selfish now. I hope OP’s mil has reached the same conclusion.

That's your choice - enjoy! It's too easy for women to get stuck in a caring rut and suddenly their life is over and that's it and they've given everything they've got to other people. But, on the other hand, older people, even mums, are capable of being selfish arseholes, just like anyone else. Everyone's situation is different.

MsRosley · 24/04/2024 10:02

Sorry, but you are self absorbed, OP. Though a new baby feels momentous for you, you can't expect it to be that big a deal for other people. You and your baby are not the centre of the universe with everyone orbiting around you.

Emotionalsupportviper · 24/04/2024 10:01

YABU using the term "little bubs". 😠

Wellhellooooodear · 24/04/2024 10:01

ClairDeLaLune · 24/04/2024 09:13

😂😂

That was my first thought.

Or maybe she thinks you won’t want her around then as you’ll be busy giving birth etc, so will come to visit you when she’s back from her holiday.

Holiday? Surely you mean holibobs? 😆

Caerulea · 24/04/2024 10:01

JassyRadlett · 24/04/2024 09:28

Great! She should go ahead and book it.

What I struggle with is why she would feel the need to make sure her son was crystal clear that she was choosing these dates specifically to be on holiday when his child is born.

Exactly. She could easily have said, 'we're going to go away, give you some peace & look forward to meeting baby when we're back & your settled'

MyOtherCarIsAPorsche · 24/04/2024 10:00

I get where you're coming from OP.

My MIL informed us, a week before my due date, that she had booked a last minute holiday and she was leaving on the due date.

My husband visibly turned as white as a sheet. He asked her why she would do this when her first grandchild was about to be born and she replied that first pregnancies are always a fortnight late.

MIL met her grandson when he was 15 days old. My husband has never forgiven her. He assumed she was as excited as we were about the baby.

MIL then went to live abroad and missed our three children's childhoods. She said that she'd be able to spend more quality time with the grandchildren while she was abroad because she would send them plane tickets every school holiday. It never happened. We were never invited and when she came back to visit approximately every other year she would spend half an hour with us moaning about the weather and then disappear.

She came back to the UK a couple of years ago - our children now have their own children and she wonders why no one wants anything to do with her.

We've heard that she bad mouths all her family to anyone who will listen. Confused

HebburnPokemon · 24/04/2024 09:58

"little bubs" - what???

This is more letters than 'baby'

AmalaJae · 24/04/2024 09:57

My mum did this too…or tried to. I can't believe we actually brought forward an elective CS so that she was around (for a day) before she went abroad for a month.

Breaktimebitches · 24/04/2024 09:50

As I read this, I wondered if MIL’s husband is controlling and trying to isolate her from her children. Just a thought.

Berlinlover · 24/04/2024 09:48

Hubby and bubs - give me strength. Your husband is being totally unreasonable.

BIossomtoes · 24/04/2024 09:48

A whole lot of projection going on!

Yes, I’ll put my hands up to that. My last birthday was a revelation, I suddenly realised just how few years I have left on this planet and that those in good health will be even fewer. So I’m going to spend them pleasing myself. I’ve done parenting, I’ve done caring daughtering and it’s my turn to be a bit selfish now. I hope OP’s mil has reached the same conclusion.

WitchWithoutChips · 24/04/2024 09:47

BIossomtoes · 24/04/2024 09:42

she's deliberately using one of the biggest events of your DH's life to hurt him.

Come on! It’s his fourth child.

Where does she say that? I can only see a reference to a daughter from a previous marriage.

LuckySantangelo35 · 24/04/2024 09:45

burnttoad · 24/04/2024 09:12

Yep. But she can't expect to be considered grandparent of the year later on. Or expect to be surrounded by family in her later years.
You reap what you sow. White hell specifically goes out of their way to book holidays when baby is being born.

@burnttoad

she can’t expect to have support when she is really old? Are you forgetting all the years she’ll have given to her kids when they were little.

you don’t have to be grandparent of the year to deserve some support and not be chucked in a home no contact as so many people on here advocate it their parents don’t commit to endless childcare on tap.

Starbugg · 24/04/2024 09:42

JassyRadlett · 24/04/2024 09:25

The performative nature of this is the issue.

She hasn't just quietly booked a holiday for the same time due to convenience or cost.

It's not even that she booked the holiday intentionally to be over the due date because she specifically wants to be unavailable. She could easily have asked to be reminded of the due date without linking it to her travel plans.

She has gone out of her way to tell her son that she is intentionally making sure she's out of the country for the time of his child's birth. That's the real weirdness here and it's hard to find a positive or benign motivation for that.

OP should explain how much childcare MIL has done in the past for her other DC, and what happened to the children during her other births. She’s making a point she won’t be looking after OP’s other children and that’s what’s key here. Has OP and her DH taken the piss in the past, or is MiL simply not interested in being that involved.

BIossomtoes · 24/04/2024 09:42

she's deliberately using one of the biggest events of your DH's life to hurt him.

Come on! It’s his fourth child.

horseyhorsey17 · 24/04/2024 09:40

ChefsKisser · 24/04/2024 09:34

Some of these replies are so weird. If she can go away any time specifically booking a holiday when your baby is due seems really really weird to me. Not saying I’d expect her to be there every second but being away on purpose feels like a weird power play.

Loads of posters on MN always jump to the defence of mothers/mothers-in-law of adult children, no matter how unpleasant they sound. A whole lot of projection going on!

horseyhorsey17 · 24/04/2024 09:38

BeaRF75 · 23/04/2024 20:16

YABU on 3 counts:

  1. "Hubby"
  2. "Bubs"
  3. Why can't the poor woman go on holiday? People on here usually coomplain about the MIL muscling in too soon after the birth, but this kind MIL is going to give the new family some space and privacy when they most need it. She sounds fab!

How does she sound 'fab'?! Going on holiday is an extremely low bar for what 'fab' constitutes.

I don't understand why she deliberately booked a holiday over the due date - that just seems a really weird thing to do. It's one thing not crowding new parents, but this seems like she's making a statement that she doesn't want any involvement with this child at all.

VampireWeekday · 24/04/2024 09:36

Your MIL is really weird and passive aggressive.

It's fine to be away over the due date. My dad had holiday already booked and I never would have expected him to cancel. Five days makes no difference at all.

What's really nasty is asking for the due date and deliberately going away then. Horrible. Like she doesn't care about going away when convenient she just wants to make sure she's not in the county when her grandchild is born. That's really awful and I couldn't forgive in a hurry.

Unless there is a massive backstory and you and DH have form for cheeky fuckery, she's deliberately using one of the biggest events of your DH's life to hurt him.

ChefsKisser · 24/04/2024 09:34

Some of these replies are so weird. If she can go away any time specifically booking a holiday when your baby is due seems really really weird to me. Not saying I’d expect her to be there every second but being away on purpose feels like a weird power play.

IkeaMeatballGravy · 24/04/2024 09:30

burnttoad · 24/04/2024 09:09

Frankly she can do what she wants. But if she's hoping to be celebrated as grandma of the year then she's going about it all wrong.
I can't imagine ever saying 'when is my grand child being born? Oh great. I'll make sure I'm far away'
Such a weird thing to do

I would if I had the type of DIL who would say no MIL for a week or two, as so many new mums seem to do now, then have her own mum round for cuddles every day. I would want to be far away so I didn't feel so hurt.

Something has gone on for her to distance herself this way and be so brazen about it.

JassyRadlett · 24/04/2024 09:28

BIossomtoes · 24/04/2024 09:21

Exactly. And she’s reaching the age where you realise you’re running out of road and your opportunities for travel and holidays are limited. A point is reached when you just want to make the most of the time you’ve got left.

Great! She should go ahead and book it.

What I struggle with is why she would feel the need to make sure her son was crystal clear that she was choosing these dates specifically to be on holiday when his child is born.

Catsmere · 24/04/2024 09:26

BIossomtoes · 24/04/2024 09:21

Exactly. And she’s reaching the age where you realise you’re running out of road and your opportunities for travel and holidays are limited. A point is reached when you just want to make the most of the time you’ve got left.

Plus most adults of middle age or over haven't the physical resources, even if they're in good health, to be taking care of babies and toddlers.

PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 24/04/2024 09:26

You are being a little precious over the due date. You need to put that aside and focus on the bigger picture that does not seem to have occurred to you or your DH. Growing isolation from previously close family members is a massive red flag for a controlling, possibly abusive relationship. That would be my concern here.

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