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MIL on holiday over baby due date

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Nushyboots · 23/04/2024 20:02

So AIBU or more importantly are we being unreasonable?

My hubby and his mother have had a 'good' relationship from what I have seen since we have been together (12 years). However since lockdown her and her husband ( she remarried ages ago ) have become increasingly detached from hubby and his two brothers families, she has gone from popping in or going on little breaks with us all as group to making excuses and avoiding having to spend too much time with us all.

So we are expecting our little bubs in June and she asked what the dates were as said she wants to book a holiday across the due date. I gave her the date, she then messaged hubby and said she has booked holiday across due date with 5 days either side being away. Hubby is really pissed off as this is the 3rd holiday they have been on this year as MIL doesnt work and FIL is semi retired due to health issues ( not managed well Diabetes related issues) He was unhappy when she told him and although my mother has come from overseas to visit and has decided to stay for the birth at the time of the holiday booking we nor MIL knew that she has surprised us with staying for the birth.

She is oblivious that hubby is upset and refuses to engage with her really anymore. He says he isnt even going to tell her when baby arrives if she is away as she obviously doesnt care ( going on holiday to usual hotel in usual resort)

is he being unreasonable? any advice for him?

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Eggplant44 · 24/04/2024 10:57

JassyRadlett · 24/04/2024 10:32

Ah I see it differently. She could have made that decision without making A Great Big Statement about the reasoning behind it.

I suspect there was a reason to make a big statement necessary.

MoodyMargaret11 · 24/04/2024 10:53

burnttoad · 24/04/2024 08:40

I really don't understand some people who think this is a non issue. It's like someone asking when your birthdays, wedding, operation or any other specific event is and then saying 'great, I'll make sure to book my holidays so I'm not around because hell knows I don't want to be around when you have any events in your life^^ '

If that's not a weird snub from a mum o don't know what is.

Interpreted this way it does seem weird and hurtful. But hard to tell from the OP what the MIL really meant. She hasn't explicitly stated she's booking her holidays so she doesn't see the baby.
Personally I wouldn't hold it against her. Imo your DH and his siblings are overreacting and expecting a lot of unnecessary involvement from their mum. Wonder if there's a guilt tripping element to their relationship as well, hence her starting to withdraw. Could be so many personal reasons though - she is human and has a life of her own afterall, which doesn't have to revolve around children and grandchildren.

ZsaZsaTheCat · 24/04/2024 10:50

I would imagine that the fact that you ‘ couldn’t give a toss’ probably has been picked up on by MIL and she has decided to withdraw to a distance she feels comfortable with.

Maybe you were all a bit thick before new husband came along and she has now decided to draw up some boundaries.

I find it interesting that you mentioned she didn’t know your own mother was coming to stay when she booked the holiday. Maybe you have made it quite clear in the past what the pecking order is with regards to your own mother and she decided to take herself out of the situation to give you some space at what is a very emotional time.

I’m a MIL to son in laws and I try very hard to give space and respect to the other MIL’s as daughters quite often (naturally) gravitate towards their own mothers.

As a MIL despite your best efforts sometimes you can’t do right or wrong 🤷🏼‍♀️

MoodyMargaret11 · 24/04/2024 10:38

BeaRF75 · 23/04/2024 20:16

YABU on 3 counts:

  1. "Hubby"
  2. "Bubs"
  3. Why can't the poor woman go on holiday? People on here usually coomplain about the MIL muscling in too soon after the birth, but this kind MIL is going to give the new family some space and privacy when they most need it. She sounds fab!

🤣🤣🤣

potato57 · 24/04/2024 10:34

Eggplant44 · 24/04/2024 10:31

Actually it does appear to be about her decision and that her son (and apparently his equally enmeshed siblings) refuse to accept it. Time to grow up and realize mummy doesn't owe adult offspring constant 'support'.

What does the son need support at the hospital for, he's not giving birth.

Also please let me know where I can get one of these MIL, mine is forever fussing, won't leave us alone (despite having plenty of kids and lots of grandchildren), always interfering, drives us crazy.

HelpMeUnpickThis · 24/04/2024 10:33

Nushyboots · 23/04/2024 21:19

Thank you for all the replies - I gathered general opinion is we are being unreasonable and to be honest we have had a laugh reading the responses. Af few have been genuinely insightful and helpful (Thank you)

Husband has taken the stance that he won't be confronting his mother as suggested even from a'caring' perspective and following others advice let her withdraw from grandchildren's life and not actively try to involve her on that front anymore.he concedes It may not be a big deal to her so He has chosen to keep things in that vein and maintain the desired distance ( most of you have been clamouring) that she wishes.

@Nushyboots OMG what a sulky response. Both of you need to adult a bit more and stop putting weird expectations on other people to be heavily involved in the decisions you have made as a couple. You are VVVVV unreasonable.

JassyRadlett · 24/04/2024 10:33

Starbugg · 24/04/2024 09:42

OP should explain how much childcare MIL has done in the past for her other DC, and what happened to the children during her other births. She’s making a point she won’t be looking after OP’s other children and that’s what’s key here. Has OP and her DH taken the piss in the past, or is MiL simply not interested in being that involved.

OP addressed the childcare issue upthread.

JassyRadlett · 24/04/2024 10:32

Eggplant44 · 24/04/2024 10:31

Actually it does appear to be about her decision and that her son (and apparently his equally enmeshed siblings) refuse to accept it. Time to grow up and realize mummy doesn't owe adult offspring constant 'support'.

Ah I see it differently. She could have made that decision without making A Great Big Statement about the reasoning behind it.

Eggplant44 · 24/04/2024 10:31

JassyRadlett · 24/04/2024 10:25

Great. Good for her.

But this isn't about the decision, is it? It's about making sure her son is left in no doubt about why she's chosen these dates.

Actually it does appear to be about her decision and that her son (and apparently his equally enmeshed siblings) refuse to accept it. Time to grow up and realize mummy doesn't owe adult offspring constant 'support'.

fungipie · 24/04/2024 10:28

Eggplant44 · 24/04/2024 10:19

I suspect that the previous three births influenced her decision not to be around for the fourth.

and possibly her DH is trying to protect her from becoming so hurt again, and possible rejection/criticism of any help or support, etc- and feels it is best for them to be away this time and let them getting on with it . Protecting her from more hurt rather than controlling.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 24/04/2024 10:26

Haydenn · 23/04/2024 20:05

She probably assumes she won’t be welcome at the birth and hospital so rather than being tempted to crowd you has withdrawn herself from the equation. Would you honestly like her to be one of the MIL battering down the hospital door to see you straight away?

This, can't bloody win lol 😁
She's probably thinking "I'll have a holiday and not crowd them the first few days, they'll want to get settled and don't want me barging in trying to take over, I'll leave a few days then go round to meet and for cuddles."

Interprets as "beeatch doesn't even care, WTF that's it I'm done. Cow "😂
As I said, can't win 😁

JassyRadlett · 24/04/2024 10:25

Eggplant44 · 24/04/2024 10:19

I suspect that the previous three births influenced her decision not to be around for the fourth.

Great. Good for her.

But this isn't about the decision, is it? It's about making sure her son is left in no doubt about why she's chosen these dates.

JassyRadlett · 24/04/2024 10:24

EnglishBluebell · 24/04/2024 10:14

YABU for using "bubs" and "hubby"

Cringey! 😖

I am SO glad you raised this because literally NO ONE in the preceding 320-odd posts had mentioned it.

(There's actually an interesting phenomenon about groups and group signifiers that plays out on this stuff where a group will accept one set of terminology and cast out as unacceptable another set as belonging to the "out" group. When objectively the DH/DC/DP/DfuckingDog language is no more or less twee than hubby/bubs etc - but the group embraces one and rejects the other.)

MammaTo · 24/04/2024 10:24

YANBU - my family and my partners family were all on pins when it was close to my due date. Even though they wasn’t coming to the hospital during labour etc, they wanted to be close by to offer help and support. Especially my partners mum, she wanted to be there to support her son during an exciting moment. She dropped off meals to the front door, done dishes, laundry etc.

So yes I’d be upset if my mum booked a holiday on my due date.

Polishedshoesalways · 24/04/2024 10:20

mil doesn’t agree with the 4th child I suspect, and can’t openly voice her displeasure so this is a PA way of doing so.

Why might she not agree op? Are you struggling financially? Is her son working every hour? Is it already a chaotic house?

Eggplant44 · 24/04/2024 10:19

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I suspect that the previous three births influenced her decision not to be around for the fourth.

Italianita · 24/04/2024 10:18

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EnglishBluebell · 24/04/2024 10:14

YABU for using "bubs" and "hubby"

Cringey! 😖

Hettyinasweaty · 24/04/2024 10:13

Have you let FIL know that you think his health issues are of his own making? You know… with the not managed well diabetes?
I think there was some entirely unnecessary judgement in that statement I’d guess they may have picked up a vibe of you being a self absorbed, judgemental and insufferable pain in the ass.

Italianita · 24/04/2024 10:12

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Catsmere · 24/04/2024 10:12

Zhampagne · 24/04/2024 10:09

Honestly, I think that post is more helpful than the dozens of posters who are sneering at her language choices.

Another one suggesting that DH and his siblings look very carefully at the dynamics of MIL and her husband's relationship, OP. She might be simply motivated to enjoy her retirement now that her children are adults, or she might have a controlling DH who is gradually isolating her from her support network. It's impossible to say but you / DH should keep an eye on it.

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That's one of the most sensible suggestions I've seen on this thread. The potential for her husband being a controlling man is the one thing about this that concerns me.

Zhampagne · 24/04/2024 10:09

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Honestly, I think that post is more helpful than the dozens of posters who are sneering at her language choices.

Another one suggesting that DH and his siblings look very carefully at the dynamics of MIL and her husband's relationship, OP. She might be simply motivated to enjoy her retirement now that her children are adults, or she might have a controlling DH who is gradually isolating her from her support network. It's impossible to say but you / DH should keep an eye on it.

betterangels · 24/04/2024 10:09

MsRosley · 24/04/2024 10:07

Good for you. There's no one so disapproved of as a woman doing exactly what she pleases. Funnily enough, men rarely come in for the same flack and they usually do what they please.

Agree. I hope she enjoys life and all her holidays.

fungipie · 24/04/2024 10:09

Caerulea · 24/04/2024 10:01

Exactly. She could easily have said, 'we're going to go away, give you some peace & look forward to meeting baby when we're back & your settled'

Agreed, she should have made it clear. And OP should and DH should have talked to her and discussed why, instead of coming on MN and getting all ariated.

From generation to generation, on and on and on some more- we all want to avoid mistakes made by our own parents- and do things differently. Fair enough- but it goes round and round, and nobody has the common sense to talk about feelings and just quietly say how they feel and ask others the same.

When OP becomes the MIL, she probably will hover around like crazy to make up for the above- and drive her AC and dil or sil bonkers.

mindutopia · 24/04/2024 10:08

I get this. It's not the idea that she is going on holiday and won't be there for the birth. It's the fact she specifically asked for your due date and made a point of telling you that she had purposefully booked to go away precisely on that date and the days around it. It feels like it was done to make a point and draw attention to the fact that she was going away. If she'd just had a holiday booked and hadn't asked about the due date and hadn't followed up to tell you that she chose to go away exactly then, then it wouldn't be an issue. It feels like it was done to be intentionally hurtful.

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