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To wonder what is dangerous about my child’s lunch

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NameChangeAK · 22/04/2024 20:20

I received a message from school today saying my child’s lunch contained a prohibited item and to please review the policy “as there are children with severe allergies and it’s dangerous not to comply”

I don’t usually provide packed lunches - DC has school meals, but they did like todays meal options.

Ive responded and asked what the item was but waiting for a response, but I’m confused - it’s clearly a nut free school but I can’t see anything else anywhere about other banned foods

the packed lunch contained:

  • ham sandwich (with butter) on brown bread
  • apple
  • frube (strawberry flavour)
  • carton of own brand apple juice
  • Pepperami
  • babybel

any ideas what could be the problem or Aibu to think they’ve mistaken the ham as peanut butter or something ridiculous?

OP posts:
sweetpickle2 · 23/04/2024 09:22

AnImaginaryCat · 23/04/2024 08:44

Woo hoo!! Do I get a prize for guessing the Frube and because of it's squitiness?!

On a tangent (apologies OP), while I'm aware of what processed food is, I'm not really on board with the new UPF concept. What's the difference between Babybel and Gruyère? (See how I used the accent preens self.) I'm fairly sure a lot of Gruyère available isn't made from raw milk.

(Also, that age old question: why Babybel? Is there a larger bel?)

No to derail the thread, but there is a bigger Bel as per attached pic- I've only ever seen them in France till last year, when I saw some for sale in Sainsburys.

The 'baby' bit doesn't refer to the size though- the ones we're used to are Mini Babybels, whereas the big one is just a Babybel. There is no Mummy or Daddy Bel.

Anyway, as you were!

To wonder what is dangerous about my child’s lunch
C152 · 23/04/2024 09:21

I see it was confirmed it was the frube, which makes sense. DS's school has banned milk due to a severe allery.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 23/04/2024 09:19

God, that's awful, the poor boy 😥
As an allergy sufferer myself it fills me with dread reading that as some people are still so, so ignorant when it comes to allergies.
They "didn't know" he was allergic?!. Yeah, because that's a completely random thing to do, put a slice of cheese down the back of someone's neck 🙄🙄 😥
💔

SpringLobelia · 23/04/2024 09:17

The school is very very wrong to have not made a whole school announcement. FGS it would have taken less time than writing individually to parents.

We are in a nut and sesame-free school (so no hummus). They put out an announcement once a year or so and when one of the teachers was put in hospital after a kid brought peanuts in as a snack they put out another reminder.

MyLifeMyChoices · 23/04/2024 09:16

Hummus would be the issue in our school. Sesame is now allowed due to severe allergies.

TTPD · 23/04/2024 09:14

user09876543 · 23/04/2024 08:49

I know this won't be a popular view but surely it would be easier and better for everyone if the children with allergies ate in a separate room? I know someone will jump in and say why shouldn't they be allowed to eat with their friends but they would make friends with the other children with allergies and it would be fairer on the rest of the school population. The whole thing is just out of control.

The vast majority of schools only ban things that contain actual nuts. And it's not actually that onerous to just not send in a Nutella sandwich and a pot of peanuts.

Needanewname42 · 23/04/2024 09:14

user09876543 · 23/04/2024 08:49

I know this won't be a popular view but surely it would be easier and better for everyone if the children with allergies ate in a separate room? I know someone will jump in and say why shouldn't they be allowed to eat with their friends but they would make friends with the other children with allergies and it would be fairer on the rest of the school population. The whole thing is just out of control.

No you can't single them out and that causes a false sense of security amongst the kids.

Very young 4/5 yos might not quite realise that their friends allergy are different to theirs so think it's 'safe' to share their nut free allergy safe cheese sandwich with a child with a dairy or wheat allergy.

No kids need to be taught to not eat anyone else lunch.

CelesteCunningham · 23/04/2024 09:13

user09876543 · 23/04/2024 08:49

I know this won't be a popular view but surely it would be easier and better for everyone if the children with allergies ate in a separate room? I know someone will jump in and say why shouldn't they be allowed to eat with their friends but they would make friends with the other children with allergies and it would be fairer on the rest of the school population. The whole thing is just out of control.

I Grin (this won't delete for some reason)

It's not a popular policy among parents of DC with serious allergies as it's not inclusive but some schools do do this.

Most of the more sensible mitigations are possible. In this case, banning dairy products likely to squirt in unpredictable directions but allowing things like butter and cheese is sensible.

Terrible communication though!

To a PP, may contains are fine in nut free schools, lots of DC with allergies eat may contains!

TTPD · 23/04/2024 09:12

NameChangeAK · 23/04/2024 08:21

They have responded to say it was not a mistaken message. It was indeed the frube. There is a child with a severe dairy allergy. Whilst there is not a blanket ban on all dairy, there is a risk this could squirt/splatter so more risky. They have informed ‘many parents’ in the past but there has not been a full school communication.

I wish they had just explained that in their original message!

That makes sense. But why on earth do they communicate this to parents after they've already sent something in, rather than sending a pre-emptive message round?

caringcarer · 23/04/2024 09:11

They should just bloody say which item is the problem. A vague note wastes everyone's time chasing up to find out what they could have said in the first place.

ViscountessMelbourne · 23/04/2024 09:03

ReadtheReviews · 23/04/2024 08:58

Completely mad that if there is a dairy allergy in class no-one in class can bring dairy. Those with allergies aren't going to be able to control what people eat around them their whole life. I don't get the many suffering for the few at all. And yes, it's unkind to the allergy sufferer but it's also madness to let that one person's health issue affect 29 others.

It's not blanket dairy free, it's specific to the squirtiness of yoghurt in tubes which I think is reasonable enough as long as parents are actually informed of the policy, rather than having to guess wildly what it might be as per this thread.

PuttingDownRoots · 23/04/2024 09:02

Frubes are now banned at DDs school simply because of the mess.

They have two lunch sittings. Tables need to be cleaned between them. And then cleaned and put away so the halls can be used after lunch. They don't have time to be cleaning up splatters of yoghurt from everywhere.

Plus they explode in lunch boxes, coating the child's own food in yoghurt...

Caerulea · 23/04/2024 09:01

@crumblingschools Your name explains it perfectly

umberelladay · 23/04/2024 09:00

Slightly off topic.
I honestly don't remember any children at primary with allergies. ( went to a double intake school, so big) It seems so prevalent now.

I do wonder if all the late weening has caused it. I'm 50 and my mum said everyone was weaned at 12 weeks, back in the day. I know they have changed the advice on introducing nuts (to do it earlier) Something must be causing this.

crumblingschools · 23/04/2024 09:00

@Caerulea there might not be enough staff to separate out children

crumblingschools · 23/04/2024 08:59

@DyslexicPoster butter on a sandwich is not likely to squirt across the table unlike a frube. When I was a parent volunteer at a school I hated those things. Many children couldn’t open them and would ask me. They could end up everywhere

Caerulea · 23/04/2024 08:59

user09876543 · 23/04/2024 08:49

I know this won't be a popular view but surely it would be easier and better for everyone if the children with allergies ate in a separate room? I know someone will jump in and say why shouldn't they be allowed to eat with their friends but they would make friends with the other children with allergies and it would be fairer on the rest of the school population. The whole thing is just out of control.

I don't necessarily disagree. 5yrs ago a kid died cos another child threw a cheese slice at his face, didn't even go in his mouth. When you're at that level of allergy... I dunno.. I'd want my kid in another room

ReadtheReviews · 23/04/2024 08:58

Completely mad that if there is a dairy allergy in class no-one in class can bring dairy. Those with allergies aren't going to be able to control what people eat around them their whole life. I don't get the many suffering for the few at all. And yes, it's unkind to the allergy sufferer but it's also madness to let that one person's health issue affect 29 others.

BirtyDird · 23/04/2024 08:58

Schools just need to be clear on allergy policies, I don't think children should be sat in a different room away from friends because they have an allergy . Our school sends a weekly newsletter and every week it states clearly at the top that it is a nut free school, perhaps the school could include it in a newsletter that is more likely to be read.

MariaVT65 · 23/04/2024 08:56

Omg the frube 😂. What a piss take op. You could equally have the same risk from just dropping a yoghurt pot.

I would honestly respond further by saying thanks, but if they email you again without specifying the item, you will not chase it up for further clarification. Idiots.

DyslexicPoster · 23/04/2024 08:54

Well I think the lunch was fine. Weird about the frube, I hope butter is banned to then 🙄

I too had this email not saying what was wrong. When I asked they said it was a chocolate dip - however I read the labels and it was chocolate flavour and had the warning "may containing traces of nuts" from remote possibility if contamination in the factory. There was no nuts in it beyound the possibility of any food being contaminated in a factory.

I could not be bovered to explain so just avoid anything unless it's very obviously not a common allergen. Some days ds takes in tinned spaghetti hoops. Life gets busy.

We had a boy doing a trail day and everyone was requested not to eat any products with any nuts IN THE HOUSEHOLD for a week before his trail start. So I had to police my dh and teens if they ate from the Nutella jar or bought a snickers. It's bordering on impossible to ensure non of us ever ate a nut product for years if that child passed the trail. I have no idea how they would police that.

Blarn · 23/04/2024 08:54

2/3 cubes of gruyere peak mumsnet lunchbox!

Caerulea · 23/04/2024 08:54

AnImaginaryCat · 23/04/2024 08:44

Woo hoo!! Do I get a prize for guessing the Frube and because of it's squitiness?!

On a tangent (apologies OP), while I'm aware of what processed food is, I'm not really on board with the new UPF concept. What's the difference between Babybel and Gruyère? (See how I used the accent preens self.) I'm fairly sure a lot of Gruyère available isn't made from raw milk.

(Also, that age old question: why Babybel? Is there a larger bel?)

What's the difference? Snobbery ;)

BeeDavis · 23/04/2024 08:52

user09876543 · 23/04/2024 08:49

I know this won't be a popular view but surely it would be easier and better for everyone if the children with allergies ate in a separate room? I know someone will jump in and say why shouldn't they be allowed to eat with their friends but they would make friends with the other children with allergies and it would be fairer on the rest of the school population. The whole thing is just out of control.

When I was in school, the kids with allergies all sat together. I think they all had a nut allergy. So it does make sense.

CoffeeWithCheese · 23/04/2024 08:52

I'd guess possibly the apple juice carton has gone against the water only at lunchtimes rule. We've been caught out by that one before when the kids had packed lunches - but at least school specified what they wanted us to change from the packed lunch!

I know a couple of schools that have temporarily banned Frubes - but that's been because the older kids had figured out that you could open them, lie them on the table pointing at your mate, whack the end of it and bam.... nice yoghurt missile heading across the table. That's the tendency for year 6 to learn how to be utter sods though and nothing allergy related (and I would have totally done the same at that age)!