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To wonder what is dangerous about my child’s lunch

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NameChangeAK · 22/04/2024 20:20

I received a message from school today saying my child’s lunch contained a prohibited item and to please review the policy “as there are children with severe allergies and it’s dangerous not to comply”

I don’t usually provide packed lunches - DC has school meals, but they did like todays meal options.

Ive responded and asked what the item was but waiting for a response, but I’m confused - it’s clearly a nut free school but I can’t see anything else anywhere about other banned foods

the packed lunch contained:

  • ham sandwich (with butter) on brown bread
  • apple
  • frube (strawberry flavour)
  • carton of own brand apple juice
  • Pepperami
  • babybel

any ideas what could be the problem or Aibu to think they’ve mistaken the ham as peanut butter or something ridiculous?

OP posts:
qazxc · 23/04/2024 12:58

The school really need to review how they communicate the rules.
They may have told "many parents" but clearly not all as you didn't have a clue about what they were talking about.
They could have made it clear in the original email what they were referring to as opposed to leaving you guessing.
Even with the update, the rule is still unclear. Is it "no dairy" or "no frubes because they may splatter spray"? Is there a list of banned dairy products or a blanket ban? Because they seemed fine with the butter and Babybel.

hartman · 23/04/2024 12:58

pepperami. choking hazard.

PurpleCacao · 23/04/2024 12:51

EnglishBluebell · 23/04/2024 12:02

@RosesAndHellebores Gruyère is a UPF! Cheddar is much better. Honey may well be natural but is full of naturally occurring sugar and rots teeth

HTH

Obviously depends on brand, but for example Lidl and Sainsburys brand Gruyere are both Nova scale 3 (processed), and has one ingredient - milk. Thus not a UPF.

RazzlePuff · 23/04/2024 12:38

Double check. Once I got wrong message about Lice. Woman in office made a mistake, I did the treatment found nothing. Next day I confirmed with teacher at drop off that that I did treatment. she looked puzzled then told me it wasn’t my child and said she needed to sort it with office.

Redherringgull · 23/04/2024 12:36

A lot of this hoo-ha could have been avoided had the school said "Frubes are not allowed due to their tendency to squirt everywhere, and we have a child with a severe dairy allergy".

The school needs to work on their communication skills.

augustusglupe · 23/04/2024 12:32

EnglishBluebell · 23/04/2024 01:33

@augustusglupe So you're saying dangerous allergies didn't exist 'in your day?' I can assure they bloody well did! Only they didn't have a fecking clue what was wrong with the child and as a result, the child was often dead before they made it to school age - result? Schools were filled with children without any dangerous allergies

Edited

No. Just that I haven’t experienced that with DD or her classmates - 90s. Nor when I was growing up.
Obviously not everyone’s experience though.

Glad you got to the bottom of it OP.

Snippit · 23/04/2024 12:28

Thank Christ I no longer have children of school age, it’s gone fukin crackers! Are crackers allowed by the way? 🤔

seedsandseeds · 23/04/2024 12:20

Peonies12 · 23/04/2024 08:20

You’ll have to ask - but the amount of ultra processed food, salt and sugar in that lunch is appalling.

Do ultra processed foods affect one's ability to read?

weirdoboelady · 23/04/2024 12:19

The OP is obviously drip-feeding. This school is actually Hogwarts for Psychic Parents, innit? Otherwise WTF are frubes not PUBLISHED as a prohibited food, together with an explanation of WHY in case similar products come to market?

seedsandseeds · 23/04/2024 12:18

Oneofthesurvivors · 23/04/2024 08:17

Just bloody ask them. How hard is it?

Just bloody read the post. How hard is it?

EnglishBluebell · 23/04/2024 12:13

@boyohboys The only cheese which is not a UPF is Ricotta, Goat's cheese, Feta & Cottage cheese. All the rest are UPF.

LiarLiarKnickersAblaze · 23/04/2024 12:12

RedToothBrush · 23/04/2024 08:26

My brother had a severe peanut and egg allergy.

It wasn't banned in school. I know this because I ate peanut butter and jam sandwiches in school.

It generally wasn't an issue because he knew not to go near those things and we couldn't eat out.

He was hospitalised at one stage - from eating out and not realising.

I do think the 'main allergy' thing can be counterproductive because people do think that allergies which aren't on the list of twelve aren't as serious though.

They can be. The list of twelve is the most common twelve. That's all.

One hundred percent. I have a weird allergy and can relate!

Rewis · 23/04/2024 12:12

School needs to learn communication. If they need to send these messages, write down what's the problem. Saves everyone's time.

Also, I'm pro universal free/affordable school dinners. If schools are imposing all these rules on packed lunches, they should just serve lunch.

boyohboys · 23/04/2024 12:10

EnglishBluebell · 23/04/2024 12:02

@RosesAndHellebores Gruyère is a UPF! Cheddar is much better. Honey may well be natural but is full of naturally occurring sugar and rots teeth

HTH

How is gruyere an UPF? Processed yes but so is cheddar so struggling to see what makes it an UPF.

EnglishBluebell · 23/04/2024 12:10

That's awful that your DC and all the other DC in the school are banned from eating yogurt at lunchtime, just because of one child's intolerance. I'd continue giving my child it, telling them not to 'squirt it' and carrying on as normal tbh. That's ridiculous.

Some children with autism will only eat yogurts. My DN had ARFID and only ate fromage frais yogurts for 2 years (it was heartbreaking but even dieticians couldn't succeed in adding other foods until he was 11. Now he's a strapping 6ft tall adult thank god!)

Notreat · 23/04/2024 12:10

Maybe they have sent the message to the wrong parent?
I hope you find out what it is.

FlyingPizzaMonkey · 23/04/2024 12:08

RosesAndHellebores

Generic letter because they disapproved of what was in the lunchbox.

Ham - processed
Babybel -processed
Frube - processed
Peppermint- processed
Apple Juice - the small cartons are rarely 100% pressed/squeezed

In the kindest possible way @Hopper123that was a lunchbox jammed with UPFs.

Better choices would have been:
Chicken, tuna or egg sandwich
Fresh fruit - endless choices and combinations
2/3 cubes of gruyere
Small container with natural Greek Yoghurtand a drizzle of honey
Water instead of juice

Oh bore off. 🙄

CelesteCunningham · 23/04/2024 12:07

EnglishBluebell · 23/04/2024 12:00

@CelesteCunningham That's just not true 😂

Sorry @EnglishBluebell , what's not true? I've posted a lot so I'm not sure which post you're referring to. Smile

EnglishBluebell · 23/04/2024 12:02

@RosesAndHellebores Gruyère is a UPF! Cheddar is much better. Honey may well be natural but is full of naturally occurring sugar and rots teeth

HTH

RedToothBrush · 23/04/2024 12:02

CheeryPye · 23/04/2024 09:55

Utterly ridiculous. So if you go to the park and there's a kid with an allergy there are your favourite foods banned? Because there's a risk it could squire or splatter there too. What about if you get a plane and there's a child on the plane with an allergy? Are all other passengers banned from eating things they like eating? There's a risk you might get struck by lightning if you go outside too, should we just never go outside? So because there's a 'risk' it could splatter or squirt (even though it's never happened and probably never will), because one child has an allergy the entire year/school can not eat the things they like. Is this really what schools have descended to? That every other child has to be restricted? What about the child with the allergy being restricted to another eating area so that everyone else's kids can have a normal life?

Why use strawberry jelly in the classroom for a science lesson when you know there's a kid in the class with a strawberry allergy?

Is orange jelly less scientific?

GameOfJones · 23/04/2024 12:01

I think I would be saying that is fine but you were not aware as it's not in the policy and there hasn't been a whole school communication about it

You're not a mind reader, I wouldn't have been aware of the issue with the frube either but it makes sense when explained. However if they're having to tell "many parents" then there is obviously an issue with their communication.

Frankly I think the email you received is ridiculous. It was unclear and vague and lots of parents would have ignored it assuming it was a mistake, which is potentially dangerous for the child with the allergy if the message isn't getting through. I'd point that out to them.

EnglishBluebell · 23/04/2024 12:00

@CelesteCunningham That's just not true 😂

Needanewname42 · 23/04/2024 11:55

NameChangeAK · 23/04/2024 08:36

I didn’t ask for opinions on the lunch but thanks anyway - I agree it was full of pre-packed food, because I was choosing DCs lunch option on the school app as we were leaving when we realised there was no option he would like (he’s normally okay with school meals but, unusually 2 of the options were beef which he doesn’t eat due to religious reasons, the third option was ‘veggie noodles’ which sound fine but DC said they were awful last time and he didn’t eat them so I agreed to packed lunch with 2 mins to leave.

hence a quick ham sandwich and grabbing a few packaged things from the fridge. humous had no time to start cooking eggs, chopping veggies and decanting Greek yoghurt/humous from larger tubs, sorry for those who are appalled! In hindsight I could have stuck a whole carrot in!

Chill, the lunch was fine and probably what most normal mums would put together for their kids.

Whole carrots 🥕 maybe not, your child is neither horse nor reindeer. And you'd need to peal it / prep it so no.

What you put together was absolutely fine.
Not so much school but After School doing holiday care have asked parents to avoid yougart and chocolate in kids lunches as esp in summer as they fear yougart will turn and chocolate melts and makes a mess (and kids get upset when they can't eat it)

Caerulea · 23/04/2024 11:54

@godmum56 nothing is wrong it, nor malt extract.

It's a food obsession based around privilege & snobbery. Yoghurt, for example. The vast majority of yoghurt has things added, especially low-fat. Of course, authentic Greek yoghurt tastes nicest & contains things that are good for you but it's also much much more expensive. As are most things with the fewest ingredients.

Sure, fancy sourdoughs are great (hate it myself) & artisan breads are all pure like our ancestors used to make but they aren't that fun to eat in truth & are rarely multi-purpose.

Normal ppl working on a budget just need their kids to eat & cannot afford the luxury of obsessively checking every single ingredient especially when most people don't even realise what the weird looking ingredients are or that perfectly natural ingredients have E-numbers.

In truth! The most dangerous thing we can do with food is burn or overcook it. Or in the case of meats, undercook. Incorrect storage & reheating is more of a health issue than if there is rapeseed oil in your bread. The whole thing drives me batty.

badskinkid · 23/04/2024 11:51

Surprised at the people who never knew a child at school with an allergy in the past- I was very lucky not to inherit my mother's anaphylactic allergy to nuts and seafood and she went to primary school in the 60's!