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DH offered EX-wife his jacket

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adviceaunt · 22/04/2024 16:32

name changed to protect identity, this has been playing on my mind for a while, at a family wedding earlier this year i attended with my DH. his Ex-wfie was also present.

while we were outside standing around waiting for photos, ex-wife who does not have a partner was stood on her own.

my DH went over to her and offered her his jacket as she appeared cold.

a little later when i managed to get him up for a dance he kept glancing over to where she was sitting and i did pull him up saying stop looking at ex-wife. he denied this and said he was keeping an eye on his DS (29) who is single and on his own. i did say, he's a grown adult..

AIBU thinking he should't have done these things?

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EG94 · 22/04/2024 20:07

Nope I’d be pissed off too. And I’d of said something there and then but if the jacket pissed you off imagine my surprise when my partner fully embraced ex with a massive hug and ushered me to the side to do it 🤬

Trulyme · 22/04/2024 20:04

He sounds like a decent man tbh.

Trulyme · 22/04/2024 20:04

The jacket thing wouldn’t bother me at all.
In fact it would make me love him more.

I would not be happy about him keep looking at her though but I don’t know how much that may have been you being paranoid, especially if you were uneasy about the jacket thing already.

It sounds like he was aware she was on her own and trying to keep an eye on her to make sure she was ok.

I would say he sees her as a friend and I really don’t think you would have anything to worry about.

Mangobrango · 22/04/2024 20:03

It’s refreshing that they aren’t arguing tbh, you can be kind to the mother of your child without wanting to shag them.

patchworkpal · 22/04/2024 20:02

Maybe the jacket thing was to break the ice?

adviceaunt · 22/04/2024 20:00

Smokeysgirl · 22/04/2024 16:43

Has he mentioned her at all since? The jacket thing wouldn't have bothered me but if I thought he'd been looking at her a lot I'd be upset. How long were they married? Maybe being at the wedding made him feel a bit sentimental about their wedding, broken marriage etc maybe it brought back memories. If you are otherwise happy together and he doesn't still see her with their ds being an adult,(apart from weddings etc) then I'd forget about it.

they were married 21 years before i met him, they had been divorced 10 years when i met him. the son is not their son, its his son.

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adviceaunt · 22/04/2024 19:58

MouseMama · 22/04/2024 19:53

He sounds decent to me, perhaps conscious that she was there alone and he was there with you. He didn’t want her to feel he was rubbing her nose in it and looked out for her. I think that is decent given he once loved her enough to actually marry her (and raise a child with her?). I don’t think it undermines his relationship with or commitment to you.

his son is not their son, sorry i should have made it clearer sooner

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MouseMama · 22/04/2024 19:53

He sounds decent to me, perhaps conscious that she was there alone and he was there with you. He didn’t want her to feel he was rubbing her nose in it and looked out for her. I think that is decent given he once loved her enough to actually marry her (and raise a child with her?). I don’t think it undermines his relationship with or commitment to you.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 22/04/2024 19:34

He could have been trying to be on his best behaviour to make sure you as a couple aren't banned from any future family events and was looking over, anxious that she might kick off with your attempts to display 'He's MINE now'.

And then you uttered the words that have kicked off a hundred thousand bar brawls 'What are you looking at HER/MY BIRD/MY BLOKE for?'.

theworldie · 22/04/2024 19:30

they have been divorced for a very long time many years before me and DH met, however she was still in love with him then.

i suspect she still has feelings, DH also admits this may be the case

What makes you think she still has feelings for him? It wouldn’t be that your dh has given you that impression would it?

Aldo, if your dh agrees she still has feelings for him, and you know that - why is he going out of his way to be ultra nice to her in front of you? Odd.

FindingMeno · 22/04/2024 19:28

I think this is a you problem, not a him problem tbh.

dollahsains · 22/04/2024 19:25

Imustgoforarun · 22/04/2024 19:24

So you are 100% sure that he doesn’t have feelings for her, but she definitely does…..is that because she is a lonely woman and can’t possibly be content and happy?

an elderly man fell over and banged his head. He was bleeding. I gave him my coat for warmth and comfort which went off to the hospital with him. I didn’t realise I had committed an intimate act. I was just being kind.

some divorced people can be kind to each other. Ultimately, usually at some stage they had a loving intimate relationship and made children. I would help my ex if he needed me too. I know a divorced couple where the ex husband visits his ex in a dementia care home out of kindness and because she is the mother of his children. Perhaps if we were all kinder to each other instead of looking for trouble, jealousy and being cruel we would have a nicer world.

He was elderly, bleeding and vulnerable. This woman was not. She was just standing there hale and healthy. No point in comparing apples to oranges.

Imustgoforarun · 22/04/2024 19:24

So you are 100% sure that he doesn’t have feelings for her, but she definitely does…..is that because she is a lonely woman and can’t possibly be content and happy?

an elderly man fell over and banged his head. He was bleeding. I gave him my coat for warmth and comfort which went off to the hospital with him. I didn’t realise I had committed an intimate act. I was just being kind.

some divorced people can be kind to each other. Ultimately, usually at some stage they had a loving intimate relationship and made children. I would help my ex if he needed me too. I know a divorced couple where the ex husband visits his ex in a dementia care home out of kindness and because she is the mother of his children. Perhaps if we were all kinder to each other instead of looking for trouble, jealousy and being cruel we would have a nicer world.

theworldie · 22/04/2024 19:23

Sorry I wouldn’t like this at all, no. Far too intimate and not his place.

Amazed at all the “cool girls” on this thread. I also think what he did, offering his coat and going and standing with her bc she was alone comes across as very “virtue signally” - wanting to appear like a chivalrous/great guy in front of family members and also I’d wonder if he’d done it intentionally to piss me off. Does he usually try to provoke jealousy in you?

Its ok to not be ok with this despite what others on here are saying.

would he like it if you went over and stood talking to your ex-dh, offered him your pashmina to wear (🤣)and then kept looking over at him all night? No.

I think it’s very off behaviour personally, it doesn’t sound like he was making you his priority.

dollahsains · 22/04/2024 19:23

willWillSmithsmith · 22/04/2024 19:12

What’s the difference (as in one is ok and one not) in being considerate or chivalrous?

Chivalry is an added layer of politeness towards a woman. This isn't always a problem though. 'Ladies first' etc.
Giving someone your coat not only has been portrayed as an romantic act in countless movies, TV shows, etc. It's also a very personal item. And inconveniences the giver, they are saying that they'd take the cold and let someone else be warm. My DH's coat smells like him and I'd hate for another woman to wear it unless it was a genuine emergency!
Also... He was stood far away..but looking closely enough at her to notice she was cold.

It would be different if he held open a door, gave her a lift home or saw her carrying something heavy and offered to help which doesn't really inconvenience him at all.

BTW YANBU OP .
Even my autistic bad at social norms DH knows that this is unacceptable. There's no excuse although all the cool wives here will tell you that's it's OK.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 22/04/2024 19:13

@adviceaunt how in the world did you all end up at the same wedding??

willWillSmithsmith · 22/04/2024 19:12

Aquamarine1029 · 22/04/2024 16:59

This is an interesting one. If my husband had an ex, I would definitely want him to be considerate and respectful to her, but then, on the other hand, there's a chance of carrying that a liiitle bit too far. There's being considerate and then there's being chivalrous.

I wonder whose coat the op would have worn if she got cold?

What’s the difference (as in one is ok and one not) in being considerate or chivalrous?

DrJoanAllenby · 22/04/2024 19:11

It's entirely possible that he felt some kind of sympathy/empathy about her attending on her own and just wanted to be kind.

Weddings bring out all sorts of emotions.

Weighnow · 22/04/2024 19:02

You really don't stop worrying about your DC because they're adults. DS2 would be really uncomfortable at that kind of occasion, especially if there was also some awkwardness with his parents and a new partner. I'd be wanting to make sure he has OK too.

StormingNorman · 22/04/2024 18:58

Giving her his coat is quite intimate IMO. It’s not the act itself but the consideration behind it. Given it was obviously cold and he chose to be cold himself so she could be warm.

It sounds like there are some unresolved feelings between them, possibly wedding nostalgia? It is quite a step to go from sniping and causing embarrassing scenes to caring enough to give someone your coat. I’m quite a nice person but I wouldn’t offer my coat to someone I didn’t like.

CulturalNomad · 22/04/2024 18:56

Lol so he's been slagging her off behind her back?

Yeah, at first I thought the offer of the coat was kind of chivalrous (maybe a bit old fashioned but in a charming way).

But now I'm picturing an aging, discontented man who can't stop complaining about his ex years (maybe even decades) after they split. ((shudder))

Grazyna80 · 22/04/2024 18:35

If your relationship is solid, then why are you so worried.

FuzzyWuzzyWuzABear · 22/04/2024 18:26

adviceaunt · 22/04/2024 18:00

my apologies, no intention to drip feed. she is not bio mum of the son and they were sitting apart, close but on separate tables.

yes i engaged with her, chatted, and later in the day encouraged to dance etc. they have been divorced for a very long time many years before me and DH met, however she was still in love with him then.

our relationship is solid, and if it had been any other woman it would not have been an issue for me.

it would appear that both him and his ex were given strong words of advice prior to the wedding to behave. she on other family occasions has been curt and rude to both him and me, and DH in turn, although has not been rude or hurtful, has been vocal to those around about her demeanor and manner.

i suspect she still has feelings, DH also admits this may be the case (not reciprocated on his part i am totally 100% sure of) i just feel that this very intimate action may have actually been a wrong move on his part?

Edited

and DH in turn, although has not been rude or hurtful, has been vocal to those around about her demeanor and manner.

Lol so he's been slagging her off behind her back?

Your relationship is not solid if you got the arse about him lending her his jacket because she was cold.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 22/04/2024 18:21

"Very intimate"

Was he still WEARING the coat when he offered it her? 🤣

Wishitsnows · 22/04/2024 18:16

Maybe as it was a wedding it reminded your DH of their wedding and there may be a part of him that misses her. It doesn’t mean he necessarily wants her back but could have just been thinking about her and hence kept looking over

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