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HOTD7383 · 2024-04-22T14:59:44+00:00

DD attends an SEN school. At least once or twice (sometimes three times) a month without fail the school will ask for donations to be sent in as prizes for their bingo nights, tombola prizes, etc. They often ask for boxes of chocolates and bottles of wine for this and the children aren’t allowed to wear their own clothes in school that day if they don’t bring anything in so obviously I do it to stop DD from being singled out. They also have started asking us to make a bigger contribution every term to contribute towards food tasting in the classroom and to use the school’s own swimming pool, I had to pay £60 before DD went back after Easter and it’s likely to be the same amount next term too (if not more). They say it’s a voluntary contribution but they put a lot of pressure by sending constant emails and sending letters home in DD’s journal if you don’t pay it. It just feels like I’m constantly paying out to the school and it’s just costing too much money, especially when I don’t work at the moment due to my own health issues and being a carer for DD. AIBU to think the school are taking the mick and to maybe email them about this? A lot of the parents are in the same situation as me and don’t work due to being carer’s for at least one disabled child so I can’t imagine that I’m the only one feeling like this. Edited to add - the classes are smaller in SEN schools, for example DD has 10 children in her class but even still, £600 for some biscuits every week and to use their own swimming pool sound’s extortionate!

crumblingschools · 22/04/2024 17:22

Special schools usually have more support staff and the pay rises for support staff have hit schools hard. The running cost of a pool must be high.

Funding for SEND is woeful

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HOTD7383 · 22/04/2024 17:17

Iloveshoes123 · 22/04/2024 17:13

They often ask for boxes of chocolates and bottles of wine for this and the children aren’t allowed to wear their own clothes in school that day if they don’t bring anything in

Do they really explicitly say this op or is that your interpretation? I ask because I think it is really bad if they do. We have thing like this at our school but they would never insist kids bring things in, just suggest it, I don't really see how it's enforceable anyway.
The pool thing I can understand a bit more, even if it is there pool it must cost a fair bit to maintain although £60 a term is a lot.
You might be surprised how many people don't pay these voluntary donations. Our school say for school trips the donation is voluntary but if not enough people don't pay it won't go ahead so I assumed most people paid but when my DH was helping out with a trip the teacher told him only 20% or so paid, I can't remember the exact number but it was ridiculously low. I had always assumed that about 75% would pay as I think the vast majority could afford it (obviously don't know everyone's personal circumstances but just going on what I see).
My point is if you genuinely can't afford it please don't pay it - I can guarantee you there are lots of people who can and don't bother!

Yeah they often give a list of what’s ‘appropriate’ to send it and it’s mainly wine or boxes of chocolates on the list and then they say that children can wear their own clothes in exchange for bringing those items in. It’s a very clear ‘rule’ in the letters they send home. I think I worry about the consequences too much - is DD going to miss out on anything if I don’t pay, are the teachers going to think badly or look down at us if I don’t pay - I think that’s a big part of it too, but honestly I don’t see it being very sustainable asking for people to give big chunks of money at one time on a regular basis so if I can’t afford it next time then I might pay half instead etc!

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Iloveshoes123 · 22/04/2024 17:13

They often ask for boxes of chocolates and bottles of wine for this and the children aren’t allowed to wear their own clothes in school that day if they don’t bring anything in

Do they really explicitly say this op or is that your interpretation? I ask because I think it is really bad if they do. We have thing like this at our school but they would never insist kids bring things in, just suggest it, I don't really see how it's enforceable anyway.
The pool thing I can understand a bit more, even if it is there pool it must cost a fair bit to maintain although £60 a term is a lot.
You might be surprised how many people don't pay these voluntary donations. Our school say for school trips the donation is voluntary but if not enough people don't pay it won't go ahead so I assumed most people paid but when my DH was helping out with a trip the teacher told him only 20% or so paid, I can't remember the exact number but it was ridiculously low. I had always assumed that about 75% would pay as I think the vast majority could afford it (obviously don't know everyone's personal circumstances but just going on what I see).
My point is if you genuinely can't afford it please don't pay it - I can guarantee you there are lots of people who can and don't bother!

MollyButton · 22/04/2024 17:12

I'm more shocked that a SEN school has non-uniform days. That is a major trigger for a lot of SN children, such disruption to routine.

But school budgets have all been cut in real terms in the last 10 years

Sprogonthetyne · 22/04/2024 17:11

DD's school do raffle prizes for own cloths every term, a couple of times I've forgot to pick it up on the way to drop her off and nothing has been said. (When I remember it's a £1 chocolate orange, or something regifted)

DS gets school transport and at least half the time I send in money donations for stuff like own cloth or CIN the money comes home in his bag, I assume because he forgot to hand it in. Again nothing has been said and I guess they haven't even asked him if he's brought anything, as if they had he would have said yes it's in this pocket.

I'd probably ring and tell them you won't be contributing to the next bigger voluntary thing, and just ignore the £1 or raffle prize type requests.

Spendonsend · 22/04/2024 17:07

Sign post your school to the 'cost of the school day' calendar and toolkit, which is produced by a child poverty charity.

I have some slight sympathy that the pool must cost an incredible amount to heat as school energy bills werent capped.

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HOTD7383 · 22/04/2024 17:04

TTPD · 22/04/2024 16:34

They often ask for boxes of chocolates and bottles of wine for this and the children aren’t allowed to wear their own clothes in school that day if they don’t bring anything in so obviously I do it to stop DD from being singled out.

If I couldn't afford it, I wouldn't send anything and would still send my child in in non-uniform. I think it's horrible to single children out like that for decisions made by their parents to not buy something, or for having parents who can't afford it.
I also bet it wouldn't be commented on, or even really noticed that she wasn't in uniform and you hadn't bought something to send in.

I completely agree and I would feel awful if DD was in that position hence why I just suck it up but I honestly dread the letters coming now because it’s like the more times you pay the more they want next time

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HOTD7383 · 22/04/2024 17:02

Meadowfinch · 22/04/2024 16:19

That sounds fairly normal now. Cake collections, raffle prizes, non-uniform days and travel contributions to travel to the nearest pool.

School budgets are tight.

It’s the schools own pool, they’re not going to an outside local pool

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TTPD · 22/04/2024 16:34

They often ask for boxes of chocolates and bottles of wine for this and the children aren’t allowed to wear their own clothes in school that day if they don’t bring anything in so obviously I do it to stop DD from being singled out.

If I couldn't afford it, I wouldn't send anything and would still send my child in in non-uniform. I think it's horrible to single children out like that for decisions made by their parents to not buy something, or for having parents who can't afford it.
I also bet it wouldn't be commented on, or even really noticed that she wasn't in uniform and you hadn't bought something to send in.

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Hankunamatata · 22/04/2024 16:23

You have said that bigger ones are voluntary. There will be parents who will be comfortable financially and are happy enough to pay. Just ignore those emails and letters.

Meadowfinch · 22/04/2024 16:19

That sounds fairly normal now. Cake collections, raffle prizes, non-uniform days and travel contributions to travel to the nearest pool.

School budgets are tight.

Kittenkitty · 22/04/2024 16:12

I would just speak to the teachers and say that you can’t afford it but don’t want your child to be left out and see what they say. There isn’t really any other way around it. Otherwise you could start asking on your Facebook page or local groups if anyone has any prizes they would be willing to donate to the school. Make a little collection and send them as and when they ask for them.