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DD’s school constantly wanting money and donations

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HOTD7383 · 22/04/2024 15:59

DD attends an SEN school. At least once or twice (sometimes three times) a month without fail the school will ask for donations to be sent in as prizes for their bingo nights, tombola prizes, etc. They often ask for boxes of chocolates and bottles of wine for this and the children aren’t allowed to wear their own clothes in school that day if they don’t bring anything in so obviously I do it to stop DD from being singled out. They also have started asking us to make a bigger contribution every term to contribute towards food tasting in the classroom and to use the school’s own swimming pool, I had to pay £60 before DD went back after Easter and it’s likely to be the same amount next term too (if not more). They say it’s a voluntary contribution but they put a lot of pressure by sending constant emails and sending letters home in DD’s journal if you don’t pay it.

It just feels like I’m constantly paying out to the school and it’s just costing too much money, especially when I don’t work at the moment due to my own health issues and being a carer for DD. AIBU to think the school are taking the mick and to maybe email them about this? A lot of the parents are in the same situation as me and don’t work due to being carer’s for at least one disabled child so I can’t imagine that I’m the only one feeling like this.

Edited to add - the classes are smaller in SEN schools, for example DD has 10 children in her class but even still, £600 for some biscuits every week and to use their own swimming pool sound’s extortionate!

OP posts:
ilovesooty · 22/04/2024 21:49

mathanxiety · 22/04/2024 21:46

That's not what she was suggesting - you're miles wide of the mark here.

Thank you. Agreed.

ilovesooty · 22/04/2024 21:48

HOTD7383 · 22/04/2024 21:26

The way they wrote it is that it applies to every SEN school. It’s quite frankly insulting to suggest that most children with additional needs are just slung into care and their parents can’t cope with them. What PP has put is total nonsense.

She said "often" not "every". And I believe she has children with additional needs herself.

mathanxiety · 22/04/2024 21:46

HOTD7383 · 22/04/2024 21:26

The way they wrote it is that it applies to every SEN school. It’s quite frankly insulting to suggest that most children with additional needs are just slung into care and their parents can’t cope with them. What PP has put is total nonsense.

That's not what she was suggesting - you're miles wide of the mark here.

mathanxiety · 22/04/2024 21:45

FinallyHere · 22/04/2024 17:43

the children aren’t allowed to wear their own clothes in school that day if they don’t bring anything in so obviously I do it to stop DD from being singled out.

This is not right.

I haven't read the rest and it doesn't matter, this really has to be stopped.

Absolutely this.

OP, just hop off the merry go round. Don't make any more contributions.

But first, research thoroughly, and if they are indeed strict in enforcing the 'pay to play' policy, write a scathing letter to the governors and the HT, and bcc your local MP.

Interruptions to routine are not optimal for SEN students.
Having children very obviously not wearing what everyone else is allowed to wear is cruel.

HOTD7383 · 22/04/2024 21:26

ilovesooty · 22/04/2024 21:23

You might not have children in care at your daughter's school. @drspouse evidently has a different experience.

The way they wrote it is that it applies to every SEN school. It’s quite frankly insulting to suggest that most children with additional needs are just slung into care and their parents can’t cope with them. What PP has put is total nonsense.

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ilovesooty · 22/04/2024 21:23

HOTD7383 · 22/04/2024 20:50

Where on earth did you magic that information up from? 😂 DD has always been at specialist schools and we’ve never come across one child that’s in care. What nonsense honestly. My mum works in a mainstream school and she’s come across multiple children in care, so maybe you should get those facts right before spreading false information about children with additional needs.

Edited

You might not have children in care at your daughter's school. @drspouse evidently has a different experience.

HOTD7383 · 22/04/2024 20:50

Thank you for all of the really helpful replies, I’ll definitely take them all onboard! Xx

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HOTD7383 · 22/04/2024 20:50

drspouse · 22/04/2024 20:41

That really surprises me about a specialist school as often there is a significant proportion of children who are in care.

Where on earth did you magic that information up from? 😂 DD has always been at specialist schools and we’ve never come across one child that’s in care. What nonsense honestly. My mum works in a mainstream school and she’s come across multiple children in care, so maybe you should get those facts right before spreading false information about children with additional needs.

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drspouse · 22/04/2024 20:41

That really surprises me about a specialist school as often there is a significant proportion of children who are in care.

Hateam · 22/04/2024 20:38

HOTD7383 · 22/04/2024 17:02

It’s the schools own pool, they’re not going to an outside local pool

Pools cost a lot of money to run.

I do sympathise with you. Pay what you can, or don't pay at all.

But don't blame the school. They're trying to give your child the best experience they can and whilst they might not always get it right, it's not their fault they are not given enough money to do the job properly.

WearyAuldWumman · 22/04/2024 20:32

HOTD7383 · 22/04/2024 17:17

Yeah they often give a list of what’s ‘appropriate’ to send it and it’s mainly wine or boxes of chocolates on the list and then they say that children can wear their own clothes in exchange for bringing those items in. It’s a very clear ‘rule’ in the letters they send home. I think I worry about the consequences too much - is DD going to miss out on anything if I don’t pay, are the teachers going to think badly or look down at us if I don’t pay - I think that’s a big part of it too, but honestly I don’t see it being very sustainable asking for people to give big chunks of money at one time on a regular basis so if I can’t afford it next time then I might pay half instead etc!

I'm a (mostly retired) teacher. I had a Headteacher that I couldn't stand...but one thing I agreed with was that he banned non-uniform days.

At our school, children were previously required to pay a pound for those. Some parents, quite rightly, told the school to stick it. We were in an area with "multiple indicators of deprivation".

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TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 22/04/2024 20:28

That' really dreadful

'the children aren’t allowed to wear their own clothes in school that day if they don’t bring anything in'

Isn't that a bit like having to wear yellow star' ?... 😱

KTheGrey · 22/04/2024 20:22

Go to M&S and ask them to donate a couple of bottles of wine and a box of chocolates. I don't know if they still do, but the floor managers used to have authority to give you about £25 quids worth of stuff just for asking.

Notquitefinishe · 22/04/2024 20:17

The school really aren't going to say anything if on non-uniform day you don't send in a pound or whatever. You're trying to do the right thing but plenty of parents will simply forget the money (or prize), not have the cash, generally not be organised etc. I've never ever worked anywhere where even once every child has brought in a donation and I must have taught on dozens of charity days over the years.

The swimming pool I understand. It's rubbish but it will simply close if they can't fund it. Many schools have just completely closed their pools now because they cost too much to maintain. I was at a primary which paid for use of a secondary school pool for KS2 lessons. One day in the middle of a week it was announced the pool was closing as of the following day; they just could not afford it. The pool at my child's future school has had a floor put over it to make it into a classroom.

beAsensible1 · 22/04/2024 20:15

As another OP said upthread there are other ways to give outside of monetary.

can you volunteer some time to the school to help with organising, reading trips etc?

Hippee · 22/04/2024 20:14

Maybe write to your MP about getting schools funded properly and copy the school in. You'd be very popular in our school if you did that.

BodyKeepingScore · 22/04/2024 20:09

Seashor · 22/04/2024 20:04

Do you all honestly think that schools want to or have the time to spend pleading with parents to help with fundraising by supporting raffles etc!
Last year we had no more money for pencils and the same will happen this year. Children were sharing pencils, one wrote a sentence then passed the pencil on. Without parental support there is no way they’ll be able to keep the pool running.

That doesn't take away from the fact that many many families simply don't have the resources to make these donations though

Idontjetwashthefucker · 22/04/2024 20:08

Everydayimhuffling · 22/04/2024 19:43

OP, I'm a teacher and have just run a charity money raising thing. The donations ranged between over £100 and 20p. I honestly can't remember who gave what. Every child who gave something was rewarded. Please don't worry about the teachers reacting badly to you. And don't make your financial life difficult for it.

Do let them know that they're going overboard with the reminders and pressure, though. That's too much, and if you feel worried by it then there will be others who do to. The school is under a lot of pressure because of the current funding situation.

What if they didn't pay anything, were they singled out? Some parents cannot afford to donate anything, the kids should not be punished for that

Seashor · 22/04/2024 20:04

Do you all honestly think that schools want to or have the time to spend pleading with parents to help with fundraising by supporting raffles etc!
Last year we had no more money for pencils and the same will happen this year. Children were sharing pencils, one wrote a sentence then passed the pencil on. Without parental support there is no way they’ll be able to keep the pool running.

Everydayimhuffling · 22/04/2024 19:43

OP, I'm a teacher and have just run a charity money raising thing. The donations ranged between over £100 and 20p. I honestly can't remember who gave what. Every child who gave something was rewarded. Please don't worry about the teachers reacting badly to you. And don't make your financial life difficult for it.

Do let them know that they're going overboard with the reminders and pressure, though. That's too much, and if you feel worried by it then there will be others who do to. The school is under a lot of pressure because of the current funding situation.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 22/04/2024 19:41

I think a letter to the Head about "excessive expectations" and "punitive practices" wouldn't go amiss.

Coldfeetandnocleansocks · 22/04/2024 19:17

Give only what you can.

At one point we were on UC and my DD was in a school in a fairly affluent area .

requests for donations for raffles etc were common. School was great with my DD (with SEN) and I wanted to support but money very tight.

some mums were walking in with enormous boxes of chocolates or crates (I kid you not ) of Prosecco and Champaign etc… they had husbands with city jobs and lived in massive houses etc - money was genuinely no object to them.

My DD took in a little box of chocs from Poundland or home bargains etc - if wine, would be under a fiver from Asda.

Give what you can and if you can’t - tell them. They shouldn’t discriminate against your child. They knew money was tight as we had free school meals etc.

If £60 is too much, but you feel able to contribute a bit just send in £20 or whatever is achievable to you.

The one thing I could give the school was my time - so I would go in and listen to readers or help with trips or help in the library . Just as important as money and very appreciated by them.

Don’t feel bad if you can’t meet all the requests. You won’t be the first nor last to be finding money hard to find with cost of living etc.

Meadowfinch · 22/04/2024 18:06

@HOTD7383 Yes, but in your case, the school will be struggling to heat & maintain their pool. and any contribution will be valued.

FinallyHere · 22/04/2024 17:43

the children aren’t allowed to wear their own clothes in school that day if they don’t bring anything in so obviously I do it to stop DD from being singled out.

This is not right.

I haven't read the rest and it doesn't matter, this really has to be stopped.

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