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DD has left GC's with me and I'm struggling

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BeetleBee99 · 22/04/2024 01:53

To keep this short (obviously there's a backstory but it's long and complicated)

My DD has met a new partner. He is aggressive, very controlling and prone to violent outbursts (I have witnessed these). Unfortunately she's obsessed with him and isn't prepared to listen to any of my concerns. She wanted to move in with him asap before this happened.

She has two DD's with her now ex-husband. My eldest DGD (aged 11) has ASD and learning difficulties. She needs a routine and a lot of support at both home and school. She doesn't cope well with any sort of change. The younger one is aged 8.

5 weeks ago DD text me and asked me to pick the kids up from school. I did so and then she asked me to keep them overnight. Overnight then turned into a weekend.

When I asked her what was going on, she told me that herself and her NP were in X town (over 200 miles away) having a little holiday... 🙄 alright for some. It's now been almost 6 weeks and she still won't give me a straight answer on when they are coming back. I've tried arguing with her, reasoning and threatening her but nothing is working. She won't listen to me. I think he's planning for them to stay up there and she's naïve enough to go along with it

I love my DGD's to absolute pieces, but I can't cope with them full time. I have health problems myself and I'm not upto running round after them anymore. The Easter holidays have left me completely exhausted. I have no other family nearby to help (my ds is in New Zealand).

The girls father has offered to take them one weekend a month (he works full time and lives at the other end of the country - they will have to fly upto him) but even with this I don't feel I can manage much longer. Short of driving up and abandoning them with my DD (which I would never do because I don't think they would be safe) what do I do and is their
anyway I can get some help?!

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KenAdams · 22/04/2024 23:33

Given the OP hasn't been back, I hope all is OK.

Morph22010 · 22/04/2024 18:45

DeliciouslyDecadent · 22/04/2024 14:05

I'm sceptical over this entire thread as the OP has posted once.

Funny how the posters are focusing on the role of the father when he's not done anything wrong. yet the Mum clearly has and has 'issues' that may go back a long way.

But there must be a back story to this because no one with stable mental health would desert their family and also hide from their mum (the OP) and behave like this.

Why is no one focusing on getting her back, and then deciding how the family copes from there?

She clearly has issues - not least choosing an unsuitable boyfriend (although that is purely the OP's judgement) - and there may be two sides to that.

Maybe she’s busy with the kids she did say she was struggling

DeliciouslyDecadent · 22/04/2024 18:13

FlyingPizzaMonkey · 22/04/2024 16:56

I'm sceptical over this entire thread as the OP has posted once.

Me too. I debated posting because I wasn’t convinced.

I have raised it with MNHQ who can look at it.

FlyingPizzaMonkey · 22/04/2024 16:56

I'm sceptical over this entire thread as the OP has posted once.

Me too. I debated posting because I wasn’t convinced.

Redherringgull · 22/04/2024 16:38

How terrible, OP. Do you have any friends that could help you whilst things are being sorted?

I agree with PPs that have suggested that you ask the police to do a welfare check with your DD. Hopefully you know the NP's name so they can find him, too.

Hollyhead · 22/04/2024 16:10

Agree @DeliciouslyDecadent it’s not exactly the type of thread you might forget you posted - it’s not exactly ‘what brand of bread do you buy’?

Mothership4two · 22/04/2024 14:51

You may be right @DeliciouslyDecadent or OP may have gone NC for this.

Her daughter hasn't disappeared, she is communicating with her.

Posters are probably focussing on the father because he's the available parent and, in a situation where one parent has 'abandoned' their DC, most people (I would assume) would go and get their own child/children (I would). Obviously the mother's behaviour is abysmal but she's not coming back so that's not an option and OP is saying she can't cope for much longer (and she isn't the primary carer). If she can't cope then it's SS or dad. Family are best for those poor kids.

DeliciouslyDecadent · 22/04/2024 14:05

I'm sceptical over this entire thread as the OP has posted once.

Funny how the posters are focusing on the role of the father when he's not done anything wrong. yet the Mum clearly has and has 'issues' that may go back a long way.

But there must be a back story to this because no one with stable mental health would desert their family and also hide from their mum (the OP) and behave like this.

Why is no one focusing on getting her back, and then deciding how the family copes from there?

She clearly has issues - not least choosing an unsuitable boyfriend (although that is purely the OP's judgement) - and there may be two sides to that.

saraclara · 22/04/2024 13:43

Bellyblueboy · 22/04/2024 13:26

they can’t stay with their gran for much longer. Their mum isn’t on holiday, she has done a runner. And even when she comes back it doesn’t sound like she is a stable or safe parent.

if they are to stay locally, foster care seems the only option. Surely social services won’t put them into foster care without pursuing their other parent?

If hope that SS would have the needs of the girls as their priority, especially when one has special needs.

Obviously the government cuts will make that hard for them, but all things being equal I REALLY hope that they would keep these abandoned children local to their school, their friends, and the only relative who gives a shit about them.

Bellyblueboy · 22/04/2024 13:26

saraclara · 22/04/2024 13:22

I get why so many people are demanding that the father face his responsibility. But it's what those girls need that is way more important. And somehow I don't that what they need or want is to be sent to him, so far away.

they can’t stay with their gran for much longer. Their mum isn’t on holiday, she has done a runner. And even when she comes back it doesn’t sound like she is a stable or safe parent.

if they are to stay locally, foster care seems the only option. Surely social services won’t put them into foster care without pursuing their other parent?

crumblingschools · 22/04/2024 13:23

@beAsensible1 if he was an involved dad do you not think he would be there for his DC now? They must be so confused where mum is

saraclara · 22/04/2024 13:22

I get why so many people are demanding that the father face his responsibility. But it's what those girls need that is way more important. And somehow I don't that what they need or want is to be sent to him, so far away.

saraclara · 22/04/2024 13:20

beAsensible1 · 22/04/2024 12:00

It’s very weird. Of course their
other parents is the first choice before going into bloody care!

even if it means moving, why would you use up a foster placement when the children have another adequate parent.
Going into care is traumatic, it would be even more traumatic knowing that your mother has abandoned you to think
your father has as well.

if he can, he needs to.

I think most kids would rather remain in their locality, in their school, and near their friends. If one of them had special needs, the last thing that should happen is for her to lose any support that she had at her present school.

Making a decision to move them to the other end of the country to someone they presumably barely know, after only six weeks, is very premature. Their future needs more thought that that.

At this point OP needs support from SS. The girls are not going to be whisked away from her care any time soon, but if OP really can't have them, short term fostering in the area where their friends are, where their school is, and where they can still see their grandma, might well be their preference.

beAsensible1 · 22/04/2024 12:00

Bellyblueboy · 22/04/2024 09:08

I am really puzzled here by the strong reaction against h the e dad taking the children!

their mum is in a relationship with a dangerous man and she has abandoned them. Their grandmother can’t cope with them.

yes their dad sounds a bit useless - but does everyone think foster care would be better?

Mehta is everyone else’s solution? Would foster care not be harder for the kids?

It’s very weird. Of course their
other parents is the first choice before going into bloody care!

even if it means moving, why would you use up a foster placement when the children have another adequate parent.
Going into care is traumatic, it would be even more traumatic knowing that your mother has abandoned you to think
your father has as well.

if he can, he needs to.

JudgeJ · 22/04/2024 11:57

3) dad working full time isn't an excuse. He will need to take them during the school holidays and arrange his leave accordingly - and /or are there council funded holiday clubs that could help you?

Hopefully he will have ceased making any child support payments to the deserting mother so he should be paying it to the grandmother or paying for childcare where he lives and having them full time. If the he does that and then the mother tries to regain custody I hope she would be unsuccessful and be made to pay him for their support.

Shaketherombooga · 22/04/2024 11:52

I think too many people here are suggesting Social Services as if they’ll swoop in and solve everything.
Theres been good advice around making sure the DD is actually okay herself - that’s important here.
But as for SS- you DO NOT want those kids ending up in care. Outcomes for looked after children are really awful at the moment, there’s not enough staff, money, carers, foster families - the list goes on. And even when it wasn’t such a shit show - thanks Tories- family IS always the preference for kids unless there are genuinely safeguarding issues.
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TheIranianYoghurtIsNotTheIssueHere · 22/04/2024 11:52

I agree that you need to contact social services. If it came to the point that they were considering removing the children from their parents' care, they look to place them with birth family first anyway. Your situation would not be any different to how it is now, but you might at least have some certainty as to what was going on (and options for respite care etc).

Uricon2 · 22/04/2024 11:52

Adding to the chorus of contacting social services, partly for support for you and partly because there is nothing currently stopping your daughter from swooping in to pick up these children and take them off to live with the new partner. What she has done is very wrong, totally irresponsible and abusive to them, but at least they are safe. He does not sound like the sort of person they would be safe with, at all, and it would be better for children's services to be fully aware of the situation before anything worse can happen.

DeliciouslyDecadent · 22/04/2024 11:48

Fernhurst · 22/04/2024 10:58

Can't you read? The dad has said he will have the kids once a month and they will fly up to him.

My reply was for the poster (you?) who said why couldn't the OP drop off the kids at the Dad's (as if he was round the corner.)

You can hardly 'drop them off' when it involves a plane flight for 2 kids and their Gran.

Who knows if he would even be there? Or take them in?

I don't see the point of your post.

jannier · 22/04/2024 11:40

You need to contact social services your dd has abandoned her children if she comes back they could be in danger....if the boyfriend returns too.
There will be an assessment if you can't care for them and dad isn't willing they need care.

Fernhurst · 22/04/2024 10:58

DeliciouslyDecadent · 22/04/2024 10:45

Why can't people read?

The OP says he lives a plane journey away- hundreds of miles.

Are you proposing that a woman in her 60s perhaps drives hundreds of miles with 2 young children - when you don't even know if a) she drives b) has a car c) is happy and confident to drive the distance?

Can't you read? The dad has said he will have the kids once a month and they will fly up to him.

hornsofahugedilemma · 22/04/2024 10:50

Agree that now is the time to involve the authorities. Your poor grandchildren.

DeliciouslyDecadent · 22/04/2024 10:45

FlyingPizzaMonkey · 22/04/2024 10:42

Could you drop them at their dads house and refuse to have them back?

How would be beneficial for the children, not to mention even more disruptive, when he lives a flight away?

Edited

Why can't people read?

The OP says he lives a plane journey away- hundreds of miles.

Are you proposing that a woman in her 60s perhaps drives hundreds of miles with 2 young children - when you don't even know if a) she drives b) has a car c) is happy and confident to drive the distance?

DeliciouslyDecadent · 22/04/2024 10:44

Naunet · 22/04/2024 09:32

Lots of single working parents manage to put a roof over their kids heads. How do you think they manage?

You're missing the point.

If he is going to move house rather than the children moving to Scotland or wherever he is, that's going to take time and planning.

I've never ever said a single parent can't provide.

The children are already being raised by a single parent but she's buggered off.

FlyingPizzaMonkey · 22/04/2024 10:42

Could you drop them at their dads house and refuse to have them back?

How would be beneficial for the children, not to mention even more disruptive, when he lives a flight away?