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To do this at a child's party where I was the facepainter

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BrickTraybake · 21/04/2024 13:30

I am trying to establish a small business as a facepainter just to earn a little extra money.

Yesterday I did a childs birthday party for one of the mums at my DSS's school. I did it at a discount price for her as she said she would recommend me to all the other mums and she is the PTA and said she can get me a slot at school fairs.

I have a system where I get the children interested in having their facepainted to write down their name on the list and then I call them when it's their turn so there's not loads of bored kids queueing. The parents sign next to the child's name to say they consent to me painting their face and then they tick a box if they consent to me using images for promotion. It's worked well so far.

So yesterday one mum puts a massive X in the photo consent box and writes next to it NO PHOTOS NO SOCIAL MEDIA!! fair enough.

When it came to that child's turn, I wrote next to her name "pink Tshirt" just to remind me of who she was in case I accidently got her in the background of a pic.

Mum paid up, everyone happy. Then later on Facebook I saw her post thanking everyone for coming to the party and the mum of pink t-shirt girl wrote underneath "thanks for inviting us! Shame facepainter wrote down details of what my child was wearing?? Bit odd 😂" and the mum shock-reacted it.

I'm so upset. I was so looking forward to hopefully getting more party bookings and a place at the school fairs. This was only my third party and now I'm worried this mum will gossip that I'm a wierdo and I won't get any more.

Was I in the wrong? Should I reply??

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Andthereyougo · 21/04/2024 21:22

Bluebellsinthesun · 21/04/2024 13:32

Just reply ‘it was for my own record to identify your dd so I could adhere to your request for no photos / SM’

This.

How else were you supposed to remember the child?

PaulAnkaTheDoggo · 21/04/2024 21:17

MHN101 · 21/04/2024 20:35

OP. I think that was a really bad move. The woman was already defensive about having photos taken, then about her kids clothing being written down. Now you have broken GDPR by revealing to everyone on that woman’s Facebook page that she requested no photos or social media.

You’re on really dodgy ground with that one. Personally I’d be removing your post ASAP and just letting it go. It’s not that big a deal and certainly not worth the aggro that she could cause you if she decided to.

Hahahahaha. I love it when people who don’t know what they’re talking about give ridiculous advice. OP, ignore this, it’s total shite, quite embarrassing someone posted this.

Ohlookwhoitis · 21/04/2024 21:16

MHN101 · 21/04/2024 20:35

OP. I think that was a really bad move. The woman was already defensive about having photos taken, then about her kids clothing being written down. Now you have broken GDPR by revealing to everyone on that woman’s Facebook page that she requested no photos or social media.

You’re on really dodgy ground with that one. Personally I’d be removing your post ASAP and just letting it go. It’s not that big a deal and certainly not worth the aggro that she could cause you if she decided to.

There's absolutely no need for this level of hysteria. It's ridiculous.

a really bad move
you have broken GDPR
You’re on really dodgy ground
I’d be removing your post ASAP

And then you say
It’s not that big a deal

thebestinterest · 21/04/2024 21:10

Op you’re overthinking this. Kindly reply with why and move on. Good luck with your new business!

DaniMontyRae · 21/04/2024 21:02

MHN101 · 21/04/2024 20:47

It directly links confidential information (not wanting photos/SM)with her name on a public forum. With my professional understanding of GDPR, this is a breach. Even if it isn’t, this is not a woman you’d want to piss off by giving out personal info online and shaming her.

You clearly have no understanding of gdpr, professional or otherwise. And the OP didn't shame this woman, she merely posted an explanation of her actions.

Grimchmas · 21/04/2024 20:59

Laughlaughlaughcry · 21/04/2024 20:54

I am just thinking, maybe next time you have a similar situation let the parent know why you're noting down identifying info as you do it, hopefully saves this from happening again.

Glad the other mums were supportive of your reply and hope you do get booked for that other party :)

FAR safer to not note down any identifying info about the child in the first place, and have a policy of not getting any people in the background/ only doing group shots when she is certain that all have signed consent.

Laughlaughlaughcry · 21/04/2024 20:54

I am just thinking, maybe next time you have a similar situation let the parent know why you're noting down identifying info as you do it, hopefully saves this from happening again.

Glad the other mums were supportive of your reply and hope you do get booked for that other party :)

justasking111 · 21/04/2024 20:54

I'm sure the mums have been royally entertained by the mother who kicked up a fuss. There's always one at least. Ours became chair of the PTA which collapsed under her roolz. It was carnage. The head was pulling his hair out.

Grimchmas · 21/04/2024 20:53

MHN101 · 21/04/2024 20:35

OP. I think that was a really bad move. The woman was already defensive about having photos taken, then about her kids clothing being written down. Now you have broken GDPR by revealing to everyone on that woman’s Facebook page that she requested no photos or social media.

You’re on really dodgy ground with that one. Personally I’d be removing your post ASAP and just letting it go. It’s not that big a deal and certainly not worth the aggro that she could cause you if she decided to.

Oh give over. The OP has a right of reply on social media and a business reputation to defend, she hasn't broken GDPR and it's clearly been well received by the group.

OP, I work in a field which requires a lot of photographs and photo consent forms. The only thing I'd add to the advice you've already received is to back up the idea that it's a good idea to have a plain background to photograph against (you can set up a "selfie frame" in front of a wall or hedge for a bit of added value for the kids and a handy place to take their photos, or set up a fabric backdrop on a clothing rail that you can put together and dismantle to make it portable, for an inexpensive solution). Take a photo of each kid you have consent for as you finish them, and then you won't need to write anything down to remember who the non-consenting folk are - I think what you did was fine, but it would be even better practice to not need to record anything at all about the non-consenters, so I'd make it routine that you don't get others in the background of your pics, and only take group pics at parties where you're sure everybody has consented.

By the way Canva has a useful AI background removal tool if you need it. It might be the paid version - but just sign up for the 30 dsy free trial and set a reminder to cancel it.

MHN101 · 21/04/2024 20:50

BrickTraybake · 21/04/2024 20:44

First of all I can't delete it because it was under her comment and she's deleted her comment and secondly, I purposely haven't said which wording I used on here, people were nice enough to give me several options so maybe I picked the one that didn't reveal she asked me not to take pictures.
Not let's have no more negativity please ladies because I am feeling really positive now thanks to this lovely supportive thread

Sorry OP I’m not trying to be negative but I think you’ve been badly misled on here to think that posting on her response was a good thing.

She was a dick, for sure, but not worth risking your professional reputation over.

I hope it all blows over for you.

MHN101 · 21/04/2024 20:47

SoupChicken · 21/04/2024 20:38

In what way is ticking the ‘no photos’ box breaking GDPR? It’s not her personal information, she posted a query and the OP answered it.

It directly links confidential information (not wanting photos/SM)with her name on a public forum. With my professional understanding of GDPR, this is a breach. Even if it isn’t, this is not a woman you’d want to piss off by giving out personal info online and shaming her.

ButterflyKu · 21/04/2024 20:47

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Love this response🤣

CheezePleeze · 21/04/2024 20:46

BrickTraybake · 21/04/2024 20:44

First of all I can't delete it because it was under her comment and she's deleted her comment and secondly, I purposely haven't said which wording I used on here, people were nice enough to give me several options so maybe I picked the one that didn't reveal she asked me not to take pictures.
Not let's have no more negativity please ladies because I am feeling really positive now thanks to this lovely supportive thread

So it's already been deleted then? I mean along with her comment?

That's good, now I'd ask for this thread to be deleted too if I were you.

BrickTraybake · 21/04/2024 20:44

MHN101 · 21/04/2024 20:35

OP. I think that was a really bad move. The woman was already defensive about having photos taken, then about her kids clothing being written down. Now you have broken GDPR by revealing to everyone on that woman’s Facebook page that she requested no photos or social media.

You’re on really dodgy ground with that one. Personally I’d be removing your post ASAP and just letting it go. It’s not that big a deal and certainly not worth the aggro that she could cause you if she decided to.

First of all I can't delete it because it was under her comment and she's deleted her comment and secondly, I purposely haven't said which wording I used on here, people were nice enough to give me several options so maybe I picked the one that didn't reveal she asked me not to take pictures.
Not let's have no more negativity please ladies because I am feeling really positive now thanks to this lovely supportive thread

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CheezePleeze · 21/04/2024 20:41

MHN101 · 21/04/2024 20:35

OP. I think that was a really bad move. The woman was already defensive about having photos taken, then about her kids clothing being written down. Now you have broken GDPR by revealing to everyone on that woman’s Facebook page that she requested no photos or social media.

You’re on really dodgy ground with that one. Personally I’d be removing your post ASAP and just letting it go. It’s not that big a deal and certainly not worth the aggro that she could cause you if she decided to.

There has bee no GDPR breach at all.

But I agree the OP should get this thread deleted before the woman herself or another parent from the party spots it.

Also a possibility the tabloids might pick it up.

ThomasinaLivesHere · 21/04/2024 20:39

Well done OP! Glad it worked out. She sounds annoying. That would have bothered me too.

SoupChicken · 21/04/2024 20:38

MHN101 · 21/04/2024 20:35

OP. I think that was a really bad move. The woman was already defensive about having photos taken, then about her kids clothing being written down. Now you have broken GDPR by revealing to everyone on that woman’s Facebook page that she requested no photos or social media.

You’re on really dodgy ground with that one. Personally I’d be removing your post ASAP and just letting it go. It’s not that big a deal and certainly not worth the aggro that she could cause you if she decided to.

In what way is ticking the ‘no photos’ box breaking GDPR? It’s not her personal information, she posted a query and the OP answered it.

GreatGateauxsby · 21/04/2024 20:37

🙌🙌🙌

Good work!!!!

…just remember no freebies and no discounts!
your work is valuable and you are a business not a charity.

Bobbotgegrinch · 21/04/2024 20:35

BrickTraybake · 21/04/2024 19:33

Thanks so much everyone for helping with my wobble. I feel so silly worry over a tiny thing
I am really enjoying doing it. I find it hard to talk to other adults face-to-face and I am only quite young myself - I'm 21 and they are all in their 30s. But I love being fun and bubbly with the kids and feel I can talk to them easier than I can the adults haha so hopefully they like being in my company and will tell their mums to all book me :D

Here's something I wish Id known at 21.

You know that feeling you get that you're still a kid, that everyone else is so grown up and has everything figured out while you're still trying to figure out adult life and friendships etc.

It never goes away. Everyone has it, the 31 year olds, the 41 year olds. Hell, my Dad says he still gets it and he's mid 60s

You still cringe when we say something stupid, we still worry when we upset someone. We still think "I did not understand what the fuck just happened there" on a regular basis.

The only thing that happens is that we get better at hiding it, and the embarrassments build up until can can't remember the individual ones, and you start giving less and less of a shit.

Don't feel like the "grown ups" know better than you. Because there aren't any grown ups, just people cocking up all day every day. The 30 and 40 year olds don't know any better than you do.

MHN101 · 21/04/2024 20:35

OP. I think that was a really bad move. The woman was already defensive about having photos taken, then about her kids clothing being written down. Now you have broken GDPR by revealing to everyone on that woman’s Facebook page that she requested no photos or social media.

You’re on really dodgy ground with that one. Personally I’d be removing your post ASAP and just letting it go. It’s not that big a deal and certainly not worth the aggro that she could cause you if she decided to.

tiredandabitfat · 21/04/2024 20:33

Well done, you.

She sounds nuts and I'm glad the other mums backed you up.

And then she deleted her comment. Ha, love it Grin

Dominoeffecter · 21/04/2024 20:28

She sounds an absolute pill.

catonmyback · 21/04/2024 20:22

Bluebellsinthesun · 21/04/2024 13:32

Just reply ‘it was for my own record to identify your dd so I could adhere to your request for no photos / SM’

Yeah do this

You did nowt wrong

TinselTitts · 21/04/2024 20:20

WappityWabbit · 21/04/2024 19:34

I bet you’re the barmy X mommy. Calm down dear.
It’s a bit face painting for kids parties, not supervising a trip to Outer Mongolia…🤦🏻‍♀️

Don't be so ridiculous 'dear'.

The OP is very new to this and could find herself in a lot of trouble if she doesn't get this right.

And in a lot of financial mess if she has accidentally made her insurance null and void.

But you carry on being childish because what do you care if a young woman's business goes tits up?

Tixedo · 21/04/2024 20:16

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