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victoriasnotsecret · 21/04/2024 13:10

DH and I are wondering what our legal rights are? We had a dispute with the neighbour they behaved illegally and we had to report them to the police. Yesterday the neighbour removed three panels of their fence leaving their garden open to ours. They know that we have two dogs who use the garden. I actually spoke to the neighbour and he told us that he taken them down because we've had to report him to the police.

So we know that he's being underhand but the same time we can't put our dogs out in our garden. He hasn't got the problem with the dogs per se but he has behaviour really aggressively towards us about various things and he's even told us he wants us to move because as he said to me yesterday "a lot our generation messed up his pension ". He then told me he was well off and didn't need to work. He is in his 70s we are in our late 40s and have only just become homeowners- beyond devastated.

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YellowDots · 21/04/2024 22:32

it isn't crazy to report.

I can't say I agree. Reporting someone removing their own fence to the council because they could be doing so that you will let your dogs in their garden is crazy. What could the council say?

Mnk711 · 21/04/2024 22:22

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/04/2024 20:44

It's your responsibility to keep your dogs in, not your neighbours'.

"My neighbours have removed their own fence in order that my dogs will go into their garden so that they can then report me". Hmm, interesting.

Yeah OK except that is why he's done it, right? To report trespassing/aggressive dogs etc. Or worse poison them. Can you give me a good reason why he would have done it otherwise? It is obviously for some kind of reason that is negarious given he is angry with OP. In conjunction with a police report for a separate issue it isn't crazy to report. But in any case better to fence him off and ignore him.

Permanentlyunimpressed · 21/04/2024 22:16

SkiingIsHeaven · 21/04/2024 22:09

Put your own fence up but paint a massive penis on the side that faces him. He will soon put the fence back up.

🤣 Please do this. And of course he's not allowed to paint your fence without your permission.

SkiingIsHeaven · 21/04/2024 22:09

Put your own fence up but paint a massive penis on the side that faces him. He will soon put the fence back up.

schloss · 21/04/2024 21:41

Youdontknowmedoyou · 21/04/2024 13:42

You don't have to contain your dogs.
He has to prevent access to his property.

@victoriasnotsecret The information quoted is totally incorrect. The owner of land, in this instance, has no obligation to ensure any stock, in this case your dogs, off the land. The owner of the stock (dog) is obligated to take action to keep the stock from accessing the land.

So, ignoring all the neighbour issues, and for whatever reason the fence has been removed, it is up to you to ensure your dog does not enter your neighbours property.

Put up a strong fence, ensure it is on your land or the boundary, and know your neighbour is not allowed to attach anything to your fence.

Azandme · 21/04/2024 21:36

sleepyscientist · 21/04/2024 15:09

How big is your dog? If it a German Shepard I'd be tempted to let it run into his garden and do a massive poo as revenge! We have a double fence with one neighbour (they hated who we bought the house off) it's a pain the neck with weeds growing between us, this year we are going to take them both down and use our fence panels plus their posts to create a decent fence.

If you deliberately sent your dog to crap in my garden, I'd return your "property" by splatting it on your windows.

And I'd raise a glass as I watched you cleaning it off.

OneHeartySnail · 21/04/2024 21:00

As others have said, your neighbours have no legal responsibility to have or maintain a fence.

You have a legal responsibility to ensure that your dogs do not leave your property.

Put up your own fence.

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/04/2024 20:44

Mnk711 · 21/04/2024 13:51

Well I'd imagine if you googled it you'd find something specific 😅but I would say for aggressive behaviour and deliberately leaving a gap so that your dogs are not safe. You could tell them you're planning to put a fence up your side to resolve the issue but you are concerned that he is deliberately trying to cause your dogs to go onto his property so you wanted to make them aware in case he tries to report you.

It's your responsibility to keep your dogs in, not your neighbours'.

"My neighbours have removed their own fence in order that my dogs will go into their garden so that they can then report me". Hmm, interesting.

SpoonyFish · 21/04/2024 18:45

If you are renting the house, you wouldnt be able to or even want to go to the expense of a fence but you could put your dog on a long lead in your garden so that they are secure still. We don't know the backstory but if its likely the neighbour is to be prosecuted for their actions so far, I'd make sure I had your own garden covered by a camera if not already.

savoycabbage · 21/04/2024 16:51

Don't get your hopes up about the police prosecuting your neighbour. Mine did absolutely outrageous things to us over eighteen months including spitting on my baby and setting fire to our front door. CPS did not prosecute.

cansu · 21/04/2024 16:41

In all honesty I would only report my neighbour if they had done something that would harm me or my family or that was serious enough to harm someone else. You have potentially opened up a very difficult situation so I hope it was serious enough to be worth it

Elebag · 21/04/2024 16:39

Do not waste your money on a temporary fence. Go permanent, as high as is legal and with hedgehog holes from the start. No mercy.

cansu · 21/04/2024 16:38

I am not sure why you think you need to report the neighbour to the police for taking down his own fence! Of course its petty but I suppose he feels annoyed you have reported him to the police.

mrsm43s · 21/04/2024 16:33

victoriasnotsecret · 21/04/2024 14:30

We are getting a temporary fence put in today. He's told me he's taken it down to antagonise us; so yeah maybe best we sort it ourselves.
We will have to mention it to the police because they are going to be prosecuting the neighbour anyway. They are just a weird family with loads of problems and although we've been neighbourly I don't want anything to do either them any more!

I'm a bit confused as to why you think you have to mention to the police something that your neighbours have done which is perfectly legal and they have every right to do?

Don't get me wrong, they're being dicks and trying to inconvenience you, but they do not legally have to have a fence, nor are they required to make sure your garden is secure for your dogs. That is your legal responsibility.

I'm very interested in what you previously reported them to the police for if you think that it's reasonable to report them to the police for not having a fence that they don't legally need to have.

I'd say you've managed to significantly devalue your property by starting neighbour disputes that will now (legally) need to be declared if you sell your property. I hope whatever "illegal" thing they were doing bothered you enough that it was the devalue plus the poor neighbour relations that you are now going to have to live with.

mrsm43s · 21/04/2024 16:21

I'm afraid you need to put a permanent fence up your side of the boundary the full length of your garden.

You have the legal responsibility to keep your animals under control - so if you want them in the garden you need to ensure your garden is securely fenced. He has no legal responsibility to have a fence whatsoever, and if he prefers he could leave the whole length of his garden unfenced.

You are wasting your money with temporary fencing - it needs to be permanent and sturdy.

wellthisislovely · 21/04/2024 15:14

They have done it to provoke you, so you need to remove that hold over you.

Put up your own fence and then they can do what they like with theirs.

Aquamarine1029 · 21/04/2024 15:10

FGS, don't waste money on a temporary fence. Have a permanent one installed, the taller the better and with absolutely no gaps.

AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 21/04/2024 15:09

Just put your own fence up. That way it’s one less thing he can do to inconvenience you. You can put your own fence all the way up to his, as long as it’s on your side of the boundary. Make it as high as you are allowed.

sleepyscientist · 21/04/2024 15:09

How big is your dog? If it a German Shepard I'd be tempted to let it run into his garden and do a massive poo as revenge! We have a double fence with one neighbour (they hated who we bought the house off) it's a pain the neck with weeds growing between us, this year we are going to take them both down and use our fence panels plus their posts to create a decent fence.

Icanseethebeach · 21/04/2024 15:07

victoriasnotsecret · 21/04/2024 13:13

We are putting up a temporary fence but what if he never replaces it. Should have asked that in my original post.

Then you put a permanent fence. If you want a fence the you need to pay for it.

Soontobe60 · 21/04/2024 15:05

victoriasnotsecret · 21/04/2024 14:30

We are getting a temporary fence put in today. He's told me he's taken it down to antagonise us; so yeah maybe best we sort it ourselves.
We will have to mention it to the police because they are going to be prosecuting the neighbour anyway. They are just a weird family with loads of problems and although we've been neighbourly I don't want anything to do either them any more!

What did they do that means they’re being o prosecuted???

OhmygodDont · 21/04/2024 15:03

He doesn’t have to have any fence at all legally. It doesn’t matter why he has removed it either.

It’s your dog to contain your dogs however be that a tie down cable or your own fences.

mt9m · 21/04/2024 15:02

I'm not sure how you waited a very long time to report him to the police for something if you only just became a homeowner for the first time as you're OP stated. Regardless, it only takes a few days to put your own 6-foot fence up, I did mine recently because my neighbours didn't want to replace the rotting one they put up 20 years ago.

GreatGateauxsby · 21/04/2024 14:57

He's told me he's taken it down to antagonise us;

Feedback to his crazy is his oxygen.

  • Do not waste your time with a semi permanent.
  • Get concrete posts and boards and install 6 ft panelling the full length of your boundary with him.
  • Avoid him.
  • do not engage.
  • if you must engage keep it short and deflect giving bland meaningless responses.
Eg. Him: big long rant about his pension You: like i said I'm in a rush, enjoy your day.

Him: big long rant about your new fencing
You: sorry you feel that way. I have to go I'm quite busy.

bluecomputerscreen · 21/04/2024 14:56

there is no legal obligation to have a fence between properties (unless specified e.g. a conservation area).
however, as a dog owner it's your obligation to keep your dog from leaving your property.

as pp say, put up your own fence to keep your dogs secure..