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AIBU to offer friend big chunk of money?

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Marven · 20/04/2024 20:34

Difficult one... I've just come into some money. I already own my house, have two kids and a bit of savings. Mine and my partners families are reasonably well off, and so I know the kids will also be thought of by their grandparents.
This lump of money will give me some to upgrade the house and some to put away for the future.

I'm thinking of giving like £50-80k to my friend... How do I handle that and would you be offended if your friend tried to give you money?

My friend - we used to be close at uni, but live far apart now and life and family get in the way, but still keep in touch and see each other every few years. Last time I saw her she'd had to move rented accomodation again and was saying how shs didn't know if she'd ever be able to buy. Her family is not well off and they'd promised her some money for a deposit, but had then gone and given it all to her brother with nothing left for her! She works hard, travels a fair bit, but she just hasn't had the really fortunate start that I have in life.

If I gave her the money, I would have no expectation about what she did with it, although her talking about buying a house was what sparked this idea for me. I honestly wouldn't care. She's had a tough life and she deserves whatever she wants and however she wants to live her life. I just think that this £50-80k would make a much bigger difference to her life than to mine.

We don't live in the same area - she's up north so I'm hoping that money could be a useful deposit?

How would you broach it, or would you just be totally offended by it?

OP posts:
BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 21/04/2024 13:52

It’s a lovely gesture and you are a kind, generous person, OP. But I speak from bitter experience when I say that large amounts of money, given to friends can mess up a friendship horribly. It all feels lovely to be in a position to bestow your generosity and to imagine all the happiness your money will bring, but then feelings such as obligation and resentment creep in. Plus, there may come a time when you need that money, since none of us can see into the future.

ItsallIeverwanted · 21/04/2024 13:50

https://www.lloydsbank.com/mortgages/help-and-guidance/first-time-buyer-help/gift-deposits.html#heading3

Please take legal advice, some lenders don't even accept gifted deposits, especially from outside the family.

samarrange · 21/04/2024 13:47

sonjadog · 21/04/2024 13:25

How could it be given completely anonymously? If someone suddenly announced they were giving me a huge some of money, for no obvious reason and with no way of finding out who, I would assume it was some scam or illegal money laundering or something like that, and tell them to fuck off. I would think anyone sane would do the same.

If you want to give it to her, then you do it above board, no lies. The truth will come out at some point and then she will feel tricked, guilty and angry. Don't hide truths from adults about their own lives.

It would be just about possible if you went through a solicitor, who could explain that it was not a scam. But as the recipient it would feel very weird indeed, like something from a film script. I have raised a modest amount of money for a local charity by arranging for some occasional freelance work that I do for an American company to be paid directly to the charity. They have no idea why they are getting bank transfers from the US, but they presumably don't worry about it. If I got money sent to me anonymously it would freak me out.

I agree that it would be very hard for the OP to remain anonymous. This charity has no idea who I am, and yet when I walk past their offices I do sometimes feel like I want to put my head round the door and say "You know those mysterious donations you get every few months from XYZ Inc? Yeah, that's me". If I was in the OP's position and sent the money anonymously, and then met up with the friend in the house that she'd just been able to buy with my gift as a deposit, I think it would be very hard indeed not to let on.

Koiarebeautiful · 21/04/2024 13:46

@Marven I think this is a lovely thing to do, and is just what I'd do if we had that kind of money spare.
The most enjoyment I'd get from winning the lottery jackpot is in helping friends and family out.
In fact, I think it's almost beholden (morally, at least) on those who are so much more fortunate to help those who aren't, and I don't understand why you wouldn't.
I also wouldn't put conditions on the money or what they do with it.

Conversely, if my friend was to come into money and offer me a similar amount I would be really appreciative of it and would happily accept it.

I'd actually be honoured that they considered me such a good friend and would be touched that they wanted to help.
Again, as long as there's no strings attached, in the same way I'd offer it, it wouldn't change the friendship for me.

You sound lovely, and I wish you all the best. 💐

Beautiful3 · 21/04/2024 13:42

I think that's a lovely thing to do. God bless you. Your friend will be over the moon.

Whatonearth07957 · 21/04/2024 13:33

I would offer £5k to help and invest the rest in a trust for my children. You have absolutely no certainty they'll inherit from you or your family in the future.

ArchaeoSpy · 21/04/2024 13:25

Thriving30 · 21/04/2024 13:05

It's a lovely thought but money can ruin friendships

its apitty people were not more able to see past the money

sonjadog · 21/04/2024 13:25

How could it be given completely anonymously? If someone suddenly announced they were giving me a huge some of money, for no obvious reason and with no way of finding out who, I would assume it was some scam or illegal money laundering or something like that, and tell them to fuck off. I would think anyone sane would do the same.

If you want to give it to her, then you do it above board, no lies. The truth will come out at some point and then she will feel tricked, guilty and angry. Don't hide truths from adults about their own lives.

Gettoachiro · 21/04/2024 13:24

If you can afford it, do it. If you don't want it to cause any issues say you won the lottery. She might reject it and if so then so be it, but it will probably make her day! (More than her day!)

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 21/04/2024 13:11

If you value the friendship at all then you will not give the money so that it is traceable to you in any way. However kindly meant, you will be lady bountiful, no longer a friend. If you want to give the money then anonymously with no link to you is the only way.

People knock their friendships out of equilibrium at their peril.

Mnk711 · 21/04/2024 13:08

Also thinking about it you don't need to pretend you've won the lottery, you could just say you always thought about what you WOULD do if you won the lottery and you would want to help her. So now you've come into this money that's what you'd like to do. Cleaner than a lie but brings to mind the lottery and how all of us think about treating our loved ones.

Thriving30 · 21/04/2024 13:05

It's a lovely thought but money can ruin friendships

someonethatyoulovetoomuch · 21/04/2024 13:05

If I had the money to help my friends I absolutely would, and I wouldn’t be offended if a friend offered me a life changing sum of money either! I really feel like people have strange friendships if they’d be ruined over something as kind as this.

I’d just have an honest conversation with her OP - “I’ve inherited X and I’d like to gift you Y to help you to buy a house / invest for the future etc is that something you’d be happy with?”. Easy! I’m sure OPs friend is a grown up who can make the decision for herself. I’d be so upset if a group of internet strangers talked a friend out of potentially changing my life.

moofolk · 21/04/2024 12:47

I think the people saying don't are very tight. If you can afford it and it would significantly improve her life then why not?

That saying it'll be the end of your friendship - maybe it will be the end of your friendship not to. You would always be thinking how you could have helped her but didn't in case it was awkward

Jk8 · 21/04/2024 12:46

Personally I wouldn't but I would broach wether she wanted to buy a house/was able too given mortgage lending & rate rises

Or better yet if your in a better position offer to help her get a home loan via a cheaper bank (probably europe=speak to mortgage broker who covers Europe as well as UK)

Summerpussy · 21/04/2024 12:46

Put in to a fund for your children
You have no idea how their lives will turn out
They may end up a single parent of numerous children,and be desperate for money..or something may happen that stops them working and earning or like my family they may have an ill child who can't work as an adult ..
I think you will regret giving it a friend when your own children are adults..it's a difficult world out there ,your own children and grandchildren will need it

WinterDeWinter · 21/04/2024 12:43

I don't agree you shouldn't do it - it will change her life.

BUT I would say that it's a very very long term low interest loan that won't become repayable unless and until she starts making x amount or x% above the average or something like that.

Or you could couch it as a lifetime investment in the property that only becomes active when she or her estate sells the property.

ImNotAPanda · 21/04/2024 12:41

100% don’t offer it as a loan, that is far worse, especially the then “surprise it’s a gift”. I would think how the fuck am I going to pay this back and always have to pay or explain why I can’t. That’s messed up.

anythinginapinch · 21/04/2024 12:35

Perhaps if the OP had been specific rather than vague about "some savings" and "reasonably well off" or wtte, she'd be lambasted for being a show off and "not reading the room".

Say she has a couple of millions in pension and savings, no mortgage and wealthy parents. And she earns 500k a year.

What do you think now, about her giving away £80k? It's hardly going to put her kids at risk or herself in penury.

Or what is she just knows she "has enough". Whatever that figure is to her.

It's so bloody depressing to read the relentless "it'll ruin the friendship" "kids and self first" "you must be naive" posts.

BlancheSaysYes · 21/04/2024 12:33

What a lovely idea. If I were your friend, I would be delighted and not the least bit offended.

I would offer it as an interest free loan rather than a gift, so she doesn't feel like a charity case. Then a few months down the line, tell her she doesn't need to pay it back.

Mirabai · 21/04/2024 12:27

ImNotAPanda · 21/04/2024 12:26

This is more messed up as she’s beholden and tied to the OP then. That affects a friendship more than just giving her money

Xpost. Exactly. It will change the relationship fundamentally.

Mirabai · 21/04/2024 12:27

Fwiw I once thought of giving a friend a big gift, but I realised that she would always feel beholden to me, if I ever invited her to something she would feel she ought to do it and I would never know if she genuinely wanted to or felt obliged. It can’t not change the friendship. And what if the friendship ever became more distant or ceased altogether?

In the end I gave my friend a smaller amount that wasn’t significant enough to change anything.

ImNotAPanda · 21/04/2024 12:26

Antibetty · 21/04/2024 12:21

Just don't. It will mess up your relationship. You could buy a flat and let her rent it from you for a peppercorn rent. That way you've got an asset and she's benefitting from it.

This is more messed up as she’s beholden and tied to the OP then. That affects a friendship more than just giving her money

Jaxhog · 21/04/2024 12:26

It's a wonderful thing to do, but do it anonymously?

ImNotAPanda · 21/04/2024 12:26

@Marven inreally don’t understand people saying don’t do it. Why the hell not?

Don’t do it anonymously, don’t pay for a years rent, don’t drip feed it to her. Just say you’ve come into some money and you would like to gift it to her if she wanted to spend it on a deposit or round the world cruise, whatever she wanted. There is nothing to pay back and it’s hers to do as she wants with. How will it end the friendship??

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