To be shocked not to be told trans student sharing bedroom on school trips

OP this is scandalous and I'd be onto the school asap to complain. How dare they put your daughter in this position?

This is not ok and I'd be absolutely furious. Please take this up with the school and get a clear statement about the process and decision making.

It's not ok for a biological boy to be sleeping in the same room as a biological girl.

I honestly don't understand why anything thinks is this a good idea... On what basis? If the trans child feels uncomfortable sleeping in a room with other children the same sex as when, they could be offered their own room. For exactly this same reason, biological girls should not be forced to sleep in the same room as biological boys.

Why am I being deleted ?

Yes, my point was that even though all three were over 18 (sixth formers), and the transgender person was biologically female, it was still discussed in advance with the three pupils.

As every trans group going is desperately insisting to schools that mixed sex changing, showering and sleeping is essential I can't see why you're so sceptical?

Never said that

Interesting that my posts saying it’s a load of bullshit are being deleted

Are you saying the school should have outed this child to you? The genitalia of another child is absolutely none of your concern. YABU.

Don't be so ridiculous. It absolutely IS of the OP's concern. The school should either have told parents or preferably, to avoid 'outing' the student to parents (though I don't really see the issue with this, since presumably all the other kids know, and they wouldn't have had to name him) placed him in a single room.

Massive safeguarding fail. Girls and boys are entitled to single sex spaces when undressing, showering and sleeping. No girl should be asked if they want to share a bedroom with a boy - or vice versa. The consequences for them in giving the "wrong" reply can be massive. It is not a girl's responsibility to validate a boy's belief he's really a girl - she's not a support human.

Adults are responsible for safeguarding and none of this should be delegated to students.

There are new draft guidelines for schools that make it explicit - no children should have mixed sex undressing, showering or sleeping forced on them. They're not perfect but they're start in ensuring the safety of girls in particular.

https://consult.education.gov.uk/equalities-political-impartiality-anti-bullying-team/gender-questioning-children-proposed-guidance/supporting_documents/Gender%20Questioning%20Children%20%20nonstatutory%20guidance.pdf

Exactly - I don’t believe a word of it

Is your DD friends with this kid? If not, it seems a strange choice to have them in the same room anyway.

Yes but the OP is talking about the daughter and OP not knowing

i dont think anyone is arguing that the teachers don’t know

... and furthermore, putting the OPs child in with an opposite sex one very much is her concern. Safeguarding 101.

There would be no "outing" of the child if the school hadn't put a male in with a female.

Why was blue deleted?

Thank you, @Greywitch2 .
It's very clear what schools have to do.

How on earth is whether teachers are aware of the room sharing arrangements prior to the trip relevant to this OP?! The whole point is the children didn't know. I agree with pps - I never share details of who is sharing with whom until we arrive at the centre. I don't understand why experienced teachers are so certain this is rubbish.

Greywitch - I am told that the 2019 trans inclusion tool kit recommends this sharing of rooms. Has this been replaced and what risk assessment should school have done?

I have reported you. This is utter rubbish. Government statutory requirements state:
Schools and colleges must meet their safeguarding obligations set out in Keeping Children Safe in Education (KCSIE). No child should be allowed to share a room with a child of the opposite sex.

They are specific about trans children, saying if they are questioning their gender they do not have to share with someone of the same sex - so this child would not have had to share with a boy. But they must therefore be allocated a single room.

They are definitely not allowed, by law, to be placed in a room with a biological girl.

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sorry blue but i don’t understand your point in this context

rightly or wrongly the OP feels that daughter/parents should have been informed in advance and they weren’t