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To think that Landlords have a bad name.

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Arewe29 · 20/04/2024 17:39

NC for this.

Is it just me or are all landlords frowned upon a MN.

We own and rent out 3 properties all our properties are rented out to young families, just under market rate, we allow them to decorate their homes how they like, and if there is any issues or problems they just call us and we sort it out ASAP.

I know that there is some terrible landlords out there, that should be dealt with but there are thousands of other that are decent that follow all the laws and their tenants are very happy.

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dimllaishebiaith · 23/04/2024 18:17

Arewe29 · 23/04/2024 14:05

Well as someone that rented years ago and was not a LL, I have more idea than you do, having never been a LL.

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Haven't I?

I haven't said that on the thread

I could have been one and seen the light

There you go with those super special landlord psychic powers again...

Applescruffle · 23/04/2024 17:58

commonsense12 · 23/04/2024 17:40

You misunderstand my point of view. A single mum who works should be able to afford her own house. However, she cannot due to the inflation of property prices compared to wages, caused by people owning multiple homes and selling them for profit over many years.

You are not gods gift for allowing someone to live in your second home. It's just that renting is the lesser of 2 bad options.

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She's been told this

So. Many. Times.

Applescruffle · 23/04/2024 17:57

Arewe29 · 23/04/2024 17:44

If they're not going to get it by now, they never will.

Goes both ways.

We are 29 pages in now and you are still asking the same questions you asked in the first few pages, which have been answered multiple times by multiple people. Do you want a different answer or do you want people to suddenly admit you are right and they were wrong all along?

You're relentless

Moreorlessmentallystable · 23/04/2024 17:45

I bet there are as many bad tenants as there are bad landlords....we only rented for a year and made so many sacrifices to buy our home early on as a married couple. I already owed a property abroad that we had to sell to fund our first UK home. We used to pay £750 in a shitty terraced house 12 years ago and hated renting. The cherry on top, I had a couple of thugs showing at our door when my husband wasn't home, claiming we weren't paying rent, we had to show them bank statements and it turned out the agency was pocketing the money and not paying the landlady! 🙈

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Arewe29 · 23/04/2024 17:44

If they're not going to get it by now, they never will.

Goes both ways.

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commonsense12 · 23/04/2024 17:40

Arewe29 · 23/04/2024 17:16

Where would you like people to live that that have no choice to rent, on the street, I will tell the single Mum that lives at mine, that can not work, that she has to live in a hotel in temp accommodation that she can not have a home, because someone on the internet says that there is an issue.

Landlords are not the issue.

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You misunderstand my point of view. A single mum who works should be able to afford her own house. However, she cannot due to the inflation of property prices compared to wages, caused by people owning multiple homes and selling them for profit over many years.

You are not gods gift for allowing someone to live in your second home. It's just that renting is the lesser of 2 bad options.

Applescruffle · 23/04/2024 17:18

I actually can't beleive this thread is still rumbling on with the same points of view on both sides that have been hashed out for what... Two days now? Three?
If they're not going to get it by now, they never will.

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Arewe29 · 23/04/2024 17:16

commonsense12 · 23/04/2024 14:56

Then that's a special use case and has a place in society. A family unit renting long term, because they have no choice, is an issue.

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Where would you like people to live that that have no choice to rent, on the street, I will tell the single Mum that lives at mine, that can not work, that she has to live in a hotel in temp accommodation that she can not have a home, because someone on the internet says that there is an issue.

Landlords are not the issue.

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Arewe29 · 23/04/2024 17:12

Daphnis156 · 23/04/2024 15:23

I think the bad reputation of landlords is entirely deserved.

The very word "Landlord" is ridiculous.

Did modern landlords invent the word- of course not, what a silly thing to say, there are plenty of names that people would disagree with today, I can name a few. Below is where the word comes from. Sorry that its a word that originated from a thousand years ago.
The concept of a landlord may be traced back to the feudal system of manoralism (seignorialism), where a landed estate is owned by a Lord of the Manor (mesne lords), usually members of the lower nobility which came to form the rank of knights in the high medieval period.

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Itloggedmeoutagain · 23/04/2024 15:36

commonsense12 · 23/04/2024 14:56

Then that's a special use case and has a place in society. A family unit renting long term, because they have no choice, is an issue.

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But it's hardly a one off is it? This happens all the time. My friend's parents had to move out of their new build due to a fault. Plenty of people rent due to moving with work
none if this could happen if people weren't allowed to own more than one house.

Daphnis156 · 23/04/2024 15:23

I think the bad reputation of landlords is entirely deserved.

The very word "Landlord" is ridiculous.

commonsense12 · 23/04/2024 15:16

Arewe29 · 23/04/2024 15:04

Many people choose to rent, some through having bad credit, and not being able to have a mortgage, some through work or a new relationship.

Not so black and white.

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Renting because you have bad credit is not a choice, it's a necessity.

If we compare the average wage to the average house price over the past 100 years, we will see that people used to be able to afford homes on a single income. The only thing that has driven this up is when the minority own a majority of housing, selling for profit.

Again, I agree that renting has its place, but not on as large a scale as it is today.

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Arewe29 · 23/04/2024 15:04

commonsense12 · 23/04/2024 14:56

Then that's a special use case and has a place in society. A family unit renting long term, because they have no choice, is an issue.

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Many people choose to rent, some through having bad credit, and not being able to have a mortgage, some through work or a new relationship.

Not so black and white.

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commonsense12 · 23/04/2024 14:56

Itloggedmeoutagain · 23/04/2024 14:04

Just to be clear i mean they moved into a rental. Not that they had a second home

Then that's a special use case and has a place in society. A family unit renting long term, because they have no choice, is an issue.

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Arewe29 · 23/04/2024 14:05

dimllaishebiaith · 23/04/2024 10:28

You have no idea what anyone is really like and your post says it all about what people think about LLs,

Waaah you don't know what landlords are really like but I know what people who aren't landlords are really like and what they think

Who knew landlords were a psychic super species capable of knowing what every non landlord thinks and feels...

Well as someone that rented years ago and was not a LL, I have more idea than you do, having never been a LL.

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Itloggedmeoutagain · 23/04/2024 14:04

Just to be clear i mean they moved into a rental. Not that they had a second home

Itloggedmeoutagain · 23/04/2024 14:03

EmmaGrundyForPM · 23/04/2024 13:46

This. No one should own more than one home.

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So when my neighbours had to move out while they had a big extension done on their house where would they have lived for six months? In a hotel? With their two kids and a dog? I think it was around six months

EmmaGrundyForPM · 23/04/2024 13:46

commonsense12 · 23/04/2024 03:04

Landlords will always do the most to try and convince themselves that what they are doing is ethical. The truth is, the tenants are second thoughts, and money always comes first!

If you could only own one home, house prices would be more affordable, and a less desirable investment opportunity. This is where the real problem is, something as essential as a home to live in should not be seen as an investment to begin with.

This. No one should own more than one home.

dimllaishebiaith · 23/04/2024 10:28

You have no idea what anyone is really like and your post says it all about what people think about LLs,

Waaah you don't know what landlords are really like but I know what people who aren't landlords are really like and what they think

Who knew landlords were a psychic super species capable of knowing what every non landlord thinks and feels...

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Arewe29 · 23/04/2024 10:21

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 23/04/2024 07:17

Well this thread seems to have went off piste somewhat but, after 28 pages the OP and their supporters have done a cracking job of reminding us all why nobody likes landlords.

So if you're wondering why all landlords are frowned upon OP a few moments of self-reflection should make it quite clear.

You take what you want from it.

After being lectured by someone that said they had no issues with LLs, but it was for the good of society and that you could have good LLs people saw through it.

You have no idea what anyone is really like and your post says it all about what people think about LLs, hence the post.

Take care.

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Thebestwaytoscareatory · 23/04/2024 07:17

Well this thread seems to have went off piste somewhat but, after 28 pages the OP and their supporters have done a cracking job of reminding us all why nobody likes landlords.

So if you're wondering why all landlords are frowned upon OP a few moments of self-reflection should make it quite clear.

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Arewe29 · 23/04/2024 05:33

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 22/04/2024 23:17

I think you can put it down to me being polite.

And since I’ve been civil to every landlord poster on this thread - apart from the abusive fool - I can’t see why my view of landlords matters.

I don’t have to like or dislike landlords to think that BTL is a bad thing.

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I have quoted you from page 24 below.

Not convincing. Sorry.

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Arewe29 · 23/04/2024 04:27

TFITheWeekend · 22/04/2024 23:09

Lol. When I despise things, I don’t need reminding that I do. Genuinely hilarious.

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It hilarious, and you could see the venom for the last 15 pages, by pretending to be a reasonable poster, with all the I am a free marketer Tory.

WE could all see through it and the BS of I was being polite and I did not lie, is laughable.

You have been found out.

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commonsense12 · 23/04/2024 03:04

Landlords will always do the most to try and convince themselves that what they are doing is ethical. The truth is, the tenants are second thoughts, and money always comes first!

If you could only own one home, house prices would be more affordable, and a less desirable investment opportunity. This is where the real problem is, something as essential as a home to live in should not be seen as an investment to begin with.

PeaceOnThePorch · 22/04/2024 23:35

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 22/04/2024 23:17

I think you can put it down to me being polite.

And since I’ve been civil to every landlord poster on this thread - apart from the abusive fool - I can’t see why my view of landlords matters.

I don’t have to like or dislike landlords to think that BTL is a bad thing.

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I think we can put it down to you being a liar, nothing else.

I’m suspicious of peoples claims on here but it definitely makes me doubt that you’re a lawyer. even more than some of the outrageous things you wrote did.

Too funny. 🤣

Night.