To think that Landlords have a bad name.

You don't provide a service. You're hoarding homes as "assets". It's YOU that's making it so people have to rent.

Do you really think your tenants are going fo tell you how they actually feel while there's a housing crisis on and landlords have their pick? They're going to lick your ass. Doesn't mean they like you. Certainly doesn't mean they like renting.

What would everyone have the OP do absolve her of her sins?
Should she immediately give all of her tenants notice to leave and sell the houses for what she paid for them? What if her tenants liked renting and living in those properties? Would you have her gift the houses to them, perhaps? Are you all so altruistic? I doubt it.

And also pretending that everyone who wants to buy a home can’t do so purely because of landlords is just not true. It’s a complex situation with multiple factors involved. It’s not as simple as ‘greedy landlords’

People lose their minds on here about landlords. At the end of the day, everyone tries to make money to pay the bills and most things could be said to exploit someone I suppose.

We have properties we rent out, it’s allowed. If people don’t like it, tough. Our properties are lovely and well maintained and tenants pay for that. It’s not illegal, I don’t think it’s immoral although some people do. I can live with that. I bet I think some things others do is immoral. That’s life.

It didn’t take long to get to “I’m providing a service!” did it?!

You are hoarding and making an asset out of a finite resource which should be available at an affordable price to all. You don’t get praise for that.

Actually I have an issue with the huge profits made on food and public transport (less profits there admittedly but not enough investment)

Clothing I am more on the fence with because there are a lot of options at different price points and because second hand is an option in a way that it isn't for food etc

I would prefer the vast majority of rental properties to be social housing where money made is reinvested in the properties and student housing to be rent controlled bevause students are starting not not be able to go to some universities because rent is as much as or more than the loan they get

That's bollocks. Most people are NOT happy to rent, they do it because they have no choice. I bet you anything that if they were able to own a home, they would prefer that.

You will only find negative stories of Landlords on Mumsnet because people with great and average Landlords have no reason to make posts.

I own a BTL and if my tenants made a post I think it would say:
“My Landlord is nice, they haven’t put my rent up for 6 years, keeping it well below average in the area. They fix stuff as soon as I report it. They recently said yes when I asked if it was possible for me to get a dog. And they even send me a bottle of champagne every Christmas.”

I doubt it would get any comments!

Exactly. Someone's unobtainable dream home is "just an asset". Hardworking people that just a couple of generations ago would have almost certainly owned their own home but now can't.
The reason? People like this hoarding them and calling them "just an asset".

But it's OK! Because she will allow them to paint it!!

Shelter is a necessity. Living in a property of your choice in a location of your choice is not a necessity. Not all rental properties are places where a low wage couple with children expect to live.

How far do you want to take the argument about making profit out of necessity? I’m assuming it doesn’t apply to food, clothing or transportation?

In Japan, they do not see houses as investments. They see them as homes.
That system would stop the unfairness here.
You have 4 houses. I have none (I have had houses but had to sell due to divorce and could not get back on) and my daughter then stands no chance.
How is that ever fair? My rent is more than my LL mortgage. 🤷🏻‍♀️

That generally happens on Mumsnet OP
Hardly anyone with sense denies there's good and bad with landlords, tenants and everyone else for that matter, but on here they're often the devil incarnate with no room for nuance at all

This is really interesting, if there were no rental properties then where would students go? (After the first year in halls)

Where would people on contracts go? (Junior doctors for example who move around a lot)

Where would people who prefer to move often go? (I know people like this, they like a regular change of scenery every couple of years)

Where would people who need to temporarily relocate for work go?

Not being goady just curious as to the solutions.

I've used rented property temporarily before, and not sure what I'd do if it wasn't there.

Absolutely agree! I’ve always said the same. Leeches exploiting the desperate. I understand the market for rentals in certain circumstances but we don’t need as many as we have. My local town has no housing because of greedy landlords charging a fortune to rent and not renting to people on low incomes or benefits, even though that’s against the law now they just use a different excuse

And what do you intend to do with that asset?

Nothing presumably, as you're not doing it to make money...

To you its "just an asset" to someone else it could be a permanent home

An asset that someone else is paying for. I couldn't sleep at night knowing that I was leeching off people who can't afford their own property.

Boo hoo hoo

You're refusing to see any point but your own.
You wanted to come on here and have everyone feel bad for you that some people are being mean to you while you sit there with your multiple properties that you kindly let your tenants paint themselves.
Sorry that's not worked out for you.

Or can't afford a mortgage because buy to let landlords have driven house prices up..

Same problem either way!

This. Its about the market as a whole.

Can’t afford a mortgage while being charged the monthly cost of a mortgage in rent, and not being able to save for a deposit on top you mean? 🤣

Maybe because an exploitative practice?

I've no skin in this particular game, but I do think that the explosion in private landlords has caused a massive block on young people and first time buyers entering the housing market.

Don't pretend it's for altruistic reasons.