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To think that Landlords have a bad name.

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Arewe29 · 20/04/2024 17:39

NC for this.

Is it just me or are all landlords frowned upon a MN.

We own and rent out 3 properties all our properties are rented out to young families, just under market rate, we allow them to decorate their homes how they like, and if there is any issues or problems they just call us and we sort it out ASAP.

I know that there is some terrible landlords out there, that should be dealt with but there are thousands of other that are decent that follow all the laws and their tenants are very happy.

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dimllaishebiaith · 20/04/2024 19:05

BeeTrainScofferLotta · 20/04/2024 19:02

Thames water?
Every single bank ever?
the supermarket?

this is such a dumb argument.

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I get that its hard to understand the possibility of a world where no one starves to death or is homeless but its sad you think it's dumb

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 20/04/2024 19:05

Arewe29 · 20/04/2024 18:26

So in your opinion should people only have one car, should homes only have one TV.

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One family can need more than one car or one TV, but they don't need more than one house - they obtain them to make money from people who are less well off.

Applescruffle · 20/04/2024 19:04

Arewe29 · 20/04/2024 19:02

Yet others have made valid points yet you are not seeing that.

you're welcome

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But I'm not the one asking for answers

Beezknees · 20/04/2024 19:03

PeaceOnThePorch · 20/04/2024 19:01

We definitely do it for money, I’m sure most landlords do with a few exceptions. It doesn’t mean we don’t provide nice homes, which tenants are happy with. We do. It’s ridiculous that people say all landlords are bad or scum. 🙄

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I think people need to just accept it for what it is. Taking money from people who are usually worse off financially than they are.

soscarlet · 20/04/2024 19:03

Arewe29 · 20/04/2024 18:58

READ again we are not making a profit on 2 of our properties.

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So why are you doing it then? Why hoard assets if not for profit? Is it for the warm fuzzy feelings you get when you allow the poors to paint the walls 🥺

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Arewe29 · 20/04/2024 19:02

Applescruffle · 20/04/2024 19:02

You're asking why there are such entrenched views. People have told you, quite clearly.
You're welcome.

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Yet others have made valid points yet you are not seeing that.

you're welcome

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Arewe29 · 20/04/2024 19:02

MinnieTruck · 20/04/2024 19:00

If you’re a good Landlord then what’s the problem? You’re sounding very NAMALTy

Look at the responses on here.

All landlords are scum, and no one should be a landlord.

My point is being made perfectly.

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Applescruffle · 20/04/2024 19:02

Arewe29 · 20/04/2024 19:00

Sigh

I am not looking for praise, I am asking why there is such entrenched views, as I have said bad landlords that do not provide decent housing and do not fix problems in a timely manner, should be held to account.

Yet here you are saying all landlords are scum!

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You're asking why there are such entrenched views. People have told you, quite clearly.
You're welcome.

BeeTrainScofferLotta · 20/04/2024 19:02

dimllaishebiaith · 20/04/2024 18:26

Can you explain how making a profit out of a necessity isn't exploiting someone?

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Thames water?
Every single bank ever?
the supermarket?

this is such a dumb argument.

TheWonderhorse · 20/04/2024 19:01

Arewe29 · 20/04/2024 18:58

READ again we are not making a profit on 2 of our properties.

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Not making a profit? Do you mean their rent only covers the mortgage?

YoureALizardHarry11 · 20/04/2024 19:01

FuckOffTom · 20/04/2024 18:52

Is it the landlord’s fault their credit score is too bad for a mortgage?

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No, but they’re not some sort of saviour either, since most landlords require a good credit score themselves. It’s funny how people don’t have a good enough credit score for a mortgage yet they can pay the equivalent of a mortgage every month to a landlord with nothing to show for it 🤣

Begaydocrime94 · 20/04/2024 19:01

I think landlords do have a bad name for various reasons. Some are obviously awful, but of course there are good landlords.
its a touchy/emotive topic as obviously having 4 houses whilst many people are struggling to buy will put their backs up.
however looking at the wider picture I don’t agree with the injection of morality into it. How can you make a moral judgment on a decent landlord but not the same on someone who works for the DWP, or BAE systems for example- all contributing to systems which oppress people. I just find snap moral judgments odd, ultimately it depends individually on the set up, if the tenants happy and landlord happy I think it’s fine. Individually, it’s not any one landlords issue that the housing market is the way it is or that there’s a lack of social/affordable housing. Just like how one person buying something from shein isn’t single-handedly responsible and evil for creating the conditions that mean cheap labour is the norm.
tldr it’s on a case by case basis. For many tenants they are paying for the convenience of not having to make a long term financial decision and repairs covered for them (although loads of landlords are rubbish and just don’t do this) but as long as it works for them I don’t see the harm.

PeaceOnThePorch · 20/04/2024 19:01

Beezknees · 20/04/2024 18:55

Again, this is what bugs people. This pretending that you're doing it out of the goodness of your heart.

Why can't you just accept that you're in it for the profit?

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We definitely do it for money, I’m sure most landlords do with a few exceptions. It doesn’t mean we don’t provide nice homes, which tenants are happy with. We do. It’s ridiculous that people say all landlords are bad or scum. 🙄

SergeantDawkins · 20/04/2024 19:00

Beezknees · 20/04/2024 18:25

Hoarding properties is gross no matter how nice you are.

The issue I have is that landlords trip over themselves to say how amazing they are and how they rent out their properties under market rate and blah blah.

STOP pretending you are doing people a favour. You. Are. Doing. It. To. Make. Money.

Exactly this and anyone making money off people’s basic need for a home is immoral

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Arewe29 · 20/04/2024 19:00

soscarlet · 20/04/2024 18:57

Sigh.

All landlords are collectively responsible. We’re talking specifically about this one because this is the one that started a thread looking for praise. As already mentioned, all landlords are scum.

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Sigh

I am not looking for praise, I am asking why there is such entrenched views, as I have said bad landlords that do not provide decent housing and do not fix problems in a timely manner, should be held to account.

Yet here you are saying all landlords are scum!

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MinnieTruck · 20/04/2024 19:00

If you’re a good Landlord then what’s the problem? You’re sounding very NAMALTy

BeeTrainScofferLotta · 20/04/2024 19:00

fiddleleaffig · 20/04/2024 17:57

The problem is that by buying 3 properties you don't need, you have taken 3 properties away from those families to buy themselves. Also in buying more than you need has risen the local house prices so not only have you removed the home for the families to buy, you have also priced them out of the local area. You may think you are a great landlord because you let them paint and fix things, but be real here - very, very few families want to rent. Very few people want to rent. They simply have no choice to thanks to the impact of people buying buy-to-lets. It's the economic impact that's incredibly selfish and makes the perma-renter-millennials despise you.

But this is not true. Without landlords, the many people who cannot afford to buy would have nowhere to live. This then causes rent to skyrocket- as is happening now because lots of landlords have had enough and are selling up. Those homes won’t address ‘the shortage of first time properties’ - there isn’t a shortage of properties, there is a a shortage of people who can afford to buy.

Babyroobs · 20/04/2024 19:00

fiddleleaffig · 20/04/2024 17:57

The problem is that by buying 3 properties you don't need, you have taken 3 properties away from those families to buy themselves. Also in buying more than you need has risen the local house prices so not only have you removed the home for the families to buy, you have also priced them out of the local area. You may think you are a great landlord because you let them paint and fix things, but be real here - very, very few families want to rent. Very few people want to rent. They simply have no choice to thanks to the impact of people buying buy-to-lets. It's the economic impact that's incredibly selfish and makes the perma-renter-millennials despise you.

This. No one needs to own a load of properties. It's just greed.
We need more social affordable housing not private landlords having their houses bought for them through benefits because rents have risen so high that people have to be subsidised with help for their rent through benefits.

Applescruffle · 20/04/2024 18:59

Arewe29 · 20/04/2024 18:58

READ again we are not making a profit on 2 of our properties.

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So what? You are still hoarding them during a housing crisis

PotatoPudding · 20/04/2024 18:59

fiddleleaffig · 20/04/2024 17:57

The problem is that by buying 3 properties you don't need, you have taken 3 properties away from those families to buy themselves. Also in buying more than you need has risen the local house prices so not only have you removed the home for the families to buy, you have also priced them out of the local area. You may think you are a great landlord because you let them paint and fix things, but be real here - very, very few families want to rent. Very few people want to rent. They simply have no choice to thanks to the impact of people buying buy-to-lets. It's the economic impact that's incredibly selfish and makes the perma-renter-millennials despise you.

I am a landlord. I bought the property 8 years ago for £70k and it’s currently worth about £80k. It’s a decent enough area but everything there is old. If my tenants wanted to buy in that area, they could but they would have to pay the mortgage themselves and not with UC rent allowance; they would also have to work full-time. They would have to fork out £2k if the boiler packed up, or £200 if the shower stops working. A lot of people prefer renting for these very reasons.

FuckOffTom · 20/04/2024 18:58

soscarlet · 20/04/2024 18:57

Sigh.

All landlords are collectively responsible. We’re talking specifically about this one because this is the one that started a thread looking for praise. As already mentioned, all landlords are scum.

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I quoted a post that literally said it was the OPs fault that her tenants couldn’t buy a house. That’s absurd.

dimllaishebiaith · 20/04/2024 18:58

Arewe29 · 20/04/2024 18:56

I am not making it about me.

I am posting that not all landlords are the same.

Yet most of the responses on here, just show the hate towards good landlords.

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If it helps you are not coming across as "good" despite trying to come across as the next best thing to a charity

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Arewe29 · 20/04/2024 18:58

Beezknees · 20/04/2024 18:55

Again, this is what bugs people. This pretending that you're doing it out of the goodness of your heart.

Why can't you just accept that you're in it for the profit?

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READ again we are not making a profit on 2 of our properties.

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Thmssngvwlsrnd · 20/04/2024 18:57

I don't understand how a poster can say "you're mot providing a service', of course you are. You are providing a house, they are paying for it. Yes a home is a necessity, but so is food and water for example - is everyone suggesting we don't pay for them either?

soscarlet · 20/04/2024 18:57

FuckOffTom · 20/04/2024 18:51

Yeah OP - you are personally responsible for the high house prices and the fact that some people can’t buy homes 🤦‍♀️

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Sigh.

All landlords are collectively responsible. We’re talking specifically about this one because this is the one that started a thread looking for praise. As already mentioned, all landlords are scum.