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To think that Landlords have a bad name.

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Arewe29 · 20/04/2024 17:39

NC for this.

Is it just me or are all landlords frowned upon a MN.

We own and rent out 3 properties all our properties are rented out to young families, just under market rate, we allow them to decorate their homes how they like, and if there is any issues or problems they just call us and we sort it out ASAP.

I know that there is some terrible landlords out there, that should be dealt with but there are thousands of other that are decent that follow all the laws and their tenants are very happy.

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Applescruffle · 21/04/2024 01:42

Arewe29 · 21/04/2024 01:36

You brought parents up, and other posters have explained why they have rented.

That MORAL high ground will get lonely one day.

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No, you did.

You asked me why I didn't stay home with my mum and said that if I had, I could have saved up. Like I dont know that people with supportive parents generally have better starts in life. You've no idea why I didn't and how that comment has made me feel. Then agreed I have limited life expereince. So yeah, you deserved a shitty comment in return because what you said was thoughtless at best and goady at worst. I'm happy for you that you stayed at home until 20.

PeaceOnThePorch · 21/04/2024 01:36

Applescruffle · 21/04/2024 01:34

Yeah really. You shouldn't have brought parents into it if you can't handle it.

In fact you probably shouldn't have started this whole thread since you haven't done very well with any of the answers.

OP has answered well despite the anger and goady comments from certain posters.

Arewe29 · 21/04/2024 01:36

Applescruffle · 21/04/2024 01:34

Yeah really. You shouldn't have brought parents into it if you can't handle it.

In fact you probably shouldn't have started this whole thread since you haven't done very well with any of the answers.

You brought parents up, and other posters have explained why they have rented.

That MORAL high ground will get lonely one day.

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Applescruffle · 21/04/2024 01:34

Arewe29 · 21/04/2024 01:33

Really, I asked a question.

You are the one that has got personal and have assumed, you really have no idea. Read back at what you have wrote.

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Yeah really. You shouldn't have brought parents into it if you can't handle it.

In fact you probably shouldn't have started this whole thread since you haven't done very well with any of the answers.

Arewe29 · 21/04/2024 01:33

Applescruffle · 21/04/2024 01:32

Do you not think you kind of deserved that after asking personal questions about why I didn't stay with my mum, admitting you were able to stay with yours and could therefore buy your house, and then agreeing that I have limited life experience?
I've experienced things your priveldged self could likely never cope with.

Really, I asked a question.

You are the one that has got personal and have assumed, you really have no idea. Read back at what you have wrote.

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Applescruffle · 21/04/2024 01:32

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Do you not think you kind of deserved that after asking personal questions about why I didn't stay with my mum, admitting you were able to stay with yours and could therefore buy your house, and then agreeing that I have limited life experience?
I've experienced things your priveldged self could likely never cope with.

PeaceOnThePorch · 21/04/2024 01:32

Arewe29 · 21/04/2024 01:24

👏

I purchased my first house at 20, having saved up since 16.

You really know nothing, my Mum died when I was 11. I did not have a great childhood, but you keep up with your rhetoric

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Don’t let posters like that get to you. They’re not worth it.

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PeaceOnThePorch · 21/04/2024 01:27

Applescruffle · 21/04/2024 01:09

I could just as easily say you're making up that they all want to rent from you instead of owning their own home.

I know many, many people that rent. I've even worked in housing advice. Not one person has ever thought "I'm so glad I pay thousands more a year in rent than I would do on a mortgage, it's such peace of mind, you know just in case my boiler breaks one day, its so much easier to call my landlord than to call a tradesperson and get it fixed myself".

If that’s to me, I didn’t say all of them. I’m sure some would love to buy.

I remember when we bought our first house, there were more than a few times when we thought about selling and going back to renting due to costs and time of doing our own maintenance.

Not having to think about maintenance and paying to replace things is a definite advantage to some people. I know people that just can’t save money, even when it’s spare, it burns a hole in their pocket and they go and spend it on something rather than saving it. Having their own home wouldn’t work for them.. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Arewe29 · 21/04/2024 01:26

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I purchased my first house at 20, having saved up since 16.

You really know nothing, my Mum died when I was 11. I did not have a great childhood, but you keep up with your rhetoric

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WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 21/04/2024 01:23

Sadly, many landlords are bad. Even if only because they expect to be able to sell whenever they want to whoever they want (though most of the many rotten landlords do far worse).

All property rental should be massively regulated with restrictions on sale (to another licensed landlord or to the tenant at a compulsory discount), hefty cash holding requirements, strict housing standards, assurance of tenancy etc etc. Private landlords should be treated as social housing providers who are in it for heavily regulated rental profit not property appreciation.

Applescruffle · 21/04/2024 01:14

Arewe29 · 21/04/2024 01:12

If you want to own a house then go and get a 100% mortgage.

I don't remember asking for your advice

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Arewe29 · 21/04/2024 01:12

Applescruffle · 21/04/2024 01:09

I could just as easily say you're making up that they all want to rent from you instead of owning their own home.

I know many, many people that rent. I've even worked in housing advice. Not one person has ever thought "I'm so glad I pay thousands more a year in rent than I would do on a mortgage, it's such peace of mind, you know just in case my boiler breaks one day, its so much easier to call my landlord than to call a tradesperson and get it fixed myself".

If you want to own a house then go and get a 100% mortgage.

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Allshallbewell2021 · 21/04/2024 01:10

Avoid paying taxes

Arewe29 · 21/04/2024 01:10

PeaceOnThePorch · 21/04/2024 01:06

I can only assume they have limited experience of life.

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Allshallbewell2021 · 21/04/2024 01:09

From what I understood the UK is particular in having such an expensive rental sector and such a cultural preference for house ownership.

You hear people talking about a healthier rental culture in some European countries but also where there may be stronger rent controls.

I can see both sides of this. I had shocking landlords at university and my niece has an absolutely vicious cowboy landlord of her uni house. But I thought the buy to let sector grew out of people trying to find a solid alternative to a pension.

I think our economy is now entirely geared towards the very wealthy because they can afford to a lot paying taxes from multinationals to millionaires.

Applescruffle · 21/04/2024 01:09

I could just as easily say you're making up that they all want to rent from you instead of owning their own home.

I know many, many people that rent. I've even worked in housing advice. Not one person has ever thought "I'm so glad I pay thousands more a year in rent than I would do on a mortgage, it's such peace of mind, you know just in case my boiler breaks one day, its so much easier to call my landlord than to call a tradesperson and get it fixed myself".

PeaceOnThePorch · 21/04/2024 01:06

Arewe29 · 21/04/2024 01:03

According to @Applescruffle you should not have a desire to relocate for work.

I can only assume they have limited experience of life.

BruFord · 21/04/2024 01:05

Arewe29 · 21/04/2024 01:03

According to @Applescruffle you should not have a desire to relocate for work.

Ah right, @Arewe29 So we should stay in our rural home towns/villages that have few job opportunities and not try to do anything with our lives? Right, tell that to my ambitious DD. 🤣

Arewe29 · 21/04/2024 01:03

BruFord · 21/04/2024 01:00

But @Applescruffle , many of us on this thread haven’t wanted to buy for years as we were moving around for jobs, etc. Where would we live without renting?

My DD (19) will soon move into a shared flat and she plans to stay in that area for less than three years. 🤷

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According to @Applescruffle you should not have a desire to relocate for work.

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PeaceOnThePorch · 21/04/2024 01:02

Applescruffle · 21/04/2024 00:58

Keep telling yourself that 😂

I don’t tell myself that, they do. One of my properties is quite expensive, the current tenants could easily afford a house but they don’t want to.

You keep making things up to suit the narrative that all tenants are desperate to buy or are poor.

Arewe29 · 21/04/2024 01:02

Applescruffle · 21/04/2024 00:54

Pretty sure she said "to landlords"

You're basically "providing" housing in the same way that scalpers provide concert tickets.

And it's none of your business why I didn't stay with my mum. Not everyone has wonderful parents who help them out. That assumption explains a lot

Yep and those with not so wonderful parents need a house to live in, an 18 year old with not so wonderful parents is not going to have a deposit of 10k to purchase a house, nor are they going to meet the banks lending criteria so will need a landlord. Which you think are scum and have no place in society.

Not so simple is it...

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GKD · 21/04/2024 01:00

@PrincessofWells are you taking about homelessness applications here?

Yes the council frequently end licences with less notice than 8 weeks where an application for homelessness has been made, interim accommodation provided and the applicant is found to not have a duty owed to them.

If it wasn’t clear I was asking if the council can ask a council tenant (ie with a contract) who has met all of the criteria and fulfilled all of their obligations to leave the property.