Am I the only person that doesn't like Taylor Swift?

Yeah reminds me of the cool kids at school who scoffed at others for being sheep for liking main stream stuff

while I wouldn't personally describe it as stealing there was dodgy dealings here. Taylor had no idea the masters were even for sale and being sold until the deal was done. The record label owner has claimed it was as simple as Taylors masters being an item he owned of value that he wanted to realise financially. Fair, but if that is true, why not bring to the negotiating table an (at the time) multi-millionaire who is more desperate that anyone in the world to buy what he is selling. Taylor may or may not not have had the financial backing at the time to actually reach the right price, but if all the record owner wanted was financial gain, then let her try or at least be another interested party to boost the price. And he knew she wanted them as she tried to included them in her future contracts with them, Taylor saw this as a betrayal and I can see why. Just because he acted within the realms of the legalities doesn't make it not a dick move.

Nothing against her. She seems to be THE female pop star of the moment and more power to her. Always good to see women smashing it.

I don’t like her music, personally. Bland and juvenile.

But different strokes and all that.

In the interests of research, I listened to a couple of Taylor Swift songs on YouTube and can confirm she's not my cup of tea. I prefer melody or rhythm driven music, rather than a generic 'backdrop' to a singer; and I don't like that muted, verging on whiny with a hint of electronic mangling style of singing, I prefer a singer who belts it out.

She clearly has a good marketing team. The music as you say is 'meh'. I suspect people just don't like to feel left out hence if they can afford it might go to her concerts etc. it's a good night out, something to tell people kind of thing. I imagine it's only the tweens who actually get excited and really like the music

Lana Del Rey is much better IMO!

Yes, you are the only person in the world who doesn’t like Taylor Swift. Congratulations!

@Heartoverhead1
No man stole her music. She signed a deal and as with many deals, the label owned the master copies. It's not theft. It was a straightforward contract.

Out of interest had the record label been owners by a woman then how would you have described the scenario?

A man essentially stole all her music, so she re recorded it to reclaim ownership of it. I don't recall anyone else ever doing that.

She is constantly attacked by male owned media but she always takes the high road.

She writes songs about the patriarchy and uniquely female experiences such as miscarriage.

I'm not particularly a fan but yeah - standing up for yourself against the patriarchy does make her a role model.

You are quite right. The weirdly strong and frankly obsessive opinions are something you see with lots of subjects. It like American politics.
People are so determined to 'win' that they will defend their positions even when the subject of their obsession is displaying terrible behaviours. They will apply saint like attributes to beit Trump or Princess Kate or TS and paint the object of their dislike as absolute villains.

There will be psychological terminology for this. I wonder what it is.

People become fanatically tribal.

@storminabuttercup Strong "I only listen to bands that haven't been invented yet" vibes from some posters on this thread.

Jeez, this thread got worse.

'She's got shit hair!' I'm not a huge fan I like her, think she's pretty savvy, like some of her stuff, which seems to be the theme on here for those of us not wanting to prove we're the cool kids, but comments like that are utterly pathetic. Wtf has her hair got to do with anything? I can't believe I'm reading comments from grown women.

You all 'need to calm down'

I don't understand the extremes of feelings towards her. People either act like she's the second coming of Prince or a talentless hack and....neither of those are true. She writes generally appealing pop songs with catchy hooks, and she does it well. There's nothing groundbreaking or innovative about her music, but its fun and pleasant to listen to.

Clearly not! I just indulged you by googling her songs and did not recognise any of them from the titles! Well - that’s today’s Spotify journey sorted out!
I’ll report back later…

Yeah I don't get it

But I'm 42 and cynical

I’ve seen her name in the media but I don’t know anything about her and I don’t know any of her songs.

But tbh mainstream pop has never been something I’m interested in. I’m a 55 year old into soulful and funky house though so not the target audience.

Do you think fans of hers will no longer listen to her music in 50 years?

It's not being deluded it's being rational. She's the biggest selling female artist. Of course people will still be listening to her.

Plus as I said she's been around for almost 20 years already. She is not new to the music scene. She has proved her longevity.

@DrJoanAllenby Satanic? Come on, you know better than that.

I don't get it either. I like a couple of her songs so I've listened to some of her albums in the hopes of getting into her more, but a lot of songs all sound the same to me. I don't think her music is for kids or teens but I find the lyrics a bit cringe and her voice doesn't stand out to me. I suppose it's all subjective. I just feel like I can't escape her at the moment.

As I said upthread, I avoid quoting lyrics because (even though I think she's a fantastic lyricist) out of context it rarely works. She has a beautiful, expressive voice too, which injects so much emotion and nuance into what she writes.

Of course, someone will now be along to say she's a crap singer because she doesn't belt like Whitney Houston, or moan that she doesn't twirl upside down on parachute silks during her live shows like Pink does, or complain that she didn't write Bohemian Rhapsody like Freddie Mercury did...

Taylor:
And maybe we got lost in translation
Maybe I asked for too much
But maybe this thing was a masterpiece 'til you tore it all up
Running scared, I was there
I remember it all too well
And you call me up again just to break me like a promise
So casually cruel in the name of being honest
I'm a crumpled up piece of paper lying here
'Cause I remember it all, all, all
Too well

Generic Pop:
Don't love me for fun, girl
Let me be the one, girl
Love me for a reason
Let the reason be love

Taylor Swift Stan till the day I die. Loved her for 15 years and will keep on loving her. Been there for me since I was 14 (I am 28 now)

But no, you are not the only one who doesn't like her, loads of people don't and that's ok. I just find it funny everyone always has to announce how much they dislike her, as if trying to prove something 🤣

I have no objection to generic pop btw. I just don't understand why so many people think TS is anything more than that. The one you quote is certainly a bit more creative, @Onabench , but not really out of the ordinary for a relationshippy pop song.

There has been many a "I hate Taylor swift" trains OP, you obviously aren't alone.

Anyone using her singles to judge her music is sorely missing out however.

Many of her songs are like poetry to me and I love the last 3/4 albums

Not sure how you pin her down to a kids bop artist

Clover blooms in the fields
Spring breaks loose, the time is near
What would he do if he found us out?
Crescent moon, coast is clear
Spring breaks loose, but so does fear
He's gonna burn this house to the ground
How's one to know?
I'd live and die for moments that we stole
On begged and borrowed time
So tell me to run
Or dare to sit and watch what we'll become
And drink my husband's wine
Oh, goddamn
My pain fits in the palm of your freezing hand
Taking mine, but it's been promised to another
Oh, I can'tS top you putting roots in my dreamland
My house of stone, your ivy grows
And now I'm covered in you
And I'm covered in you

Sorry, but you are deluded.