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To think I can live with a name I hate because it means a lot to dh?

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lovingthespring · 20/04/2024 08:55

We're expecting a boy, dh has lost his brother and his dad in recent years and wants to call our son his dads name and brothers name as first and middle, I get why this means so much to him but the names are old fashioned and I really don't know if I could learn to like them.
Do I just try and accept the names that I'll never like or just understand and respect why he wants to choose them.
I have suggested he use the names as double middle names but he doesn't want to.
There are so many gorgeous modern names that I want to choose but I also know this means a lot to do for his dad and brother.

OP posts:
Rainyday4321 · 20/04/2024 15:52

Mil died when I was pregnant and DD has her first name. I did like the name and felt it would be important to DH and his family.

dd is still very much her own person not a shrine.

Even if I hadn’t loved the name I would probably have done it. Very quickly their names are just their names and it’s fine.

Ariela · 20/04/2024 15:49

I would put the point that John Arthur Smith (or Arthur John Smith) is neither John Smith (or Arthur Smith) and shouldn't be confused with THE John Smith (or Arthur) he's named after. He might not be the most loveable/most gentle/most sporty/most polite/nicest person out there that the original John Smith was, and it's important not to sully the memory of the much loved brother (or Dad) if the new, younger John Smith doesn't quite come up to scratch in those respects (which he probably won't). In years to come would the two John Smiths get confused in time? And won't that detract from your DH's memory of his brother? Best that your son is middle name to acknowledge his ancestry.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 20/04/2024 15:48

TalkSomeSense1 · 20/04/2024 13:24

Bit dramatic. In my culture we name children 'for' someone. All three of mine have family names. Two are dead (the relatives, not the children) and it gives them a sense of belonging to something bigger than them. They love to hear all about who they were named for. This thing of names not being fashionable is a whole other discussion.

Well, a number of people on this thread either were that child or know someone who is/was and they all agree with me that the child was unhappy and/or resentful about it or even saw it as a burden. It's a bad idea.

RedToothBrush · 20/04/2024 15:47

Vanillalime · 20/04/2024 08:59

I think your suggestion of using both names as middle names is a fair compromise. There is no way I’d give my child a first name I didn’t personally like.

This.

Also, how many children are you planning on having?

Maybe just one name this time rather than both?

Your son deserves his OWN name, and not to be a gravestone to the past.

FrannieGallops · 20/04/2024 15:44

There is no way I’d agree to this unless I liked the names. Make them 2 middle names instead.

Alondra · 20/04/2024 15:37

I have 3 sons and we gave then traditional Spanish names. They were named with family members in mind, their names ,are solid and easy to pronounce in any language.

My youngest niece was given a beautiful name that's traditional in Spanish and English, except the pronunciation is different. She's a South African born and from an early age corrected teachers and friends how she wanted her name vocalised without a problem.

You need to talk to your DH and reach a compromise, but traditional, old fashion names can be tomorrow's modern trend again.

Harara · 20/04/2024 15:34

VibeOnWithMyGalPals · 20/04/2024 09:07

Absolutely no way. You can’t name your baby a name that you actually dislike. I would be quite worried that it could even affect your bond with him and possibly cause PND and anxiety.

I’m not a parent, but this sounds ridiculously OTT to me.

Sealover123 · 20/04/2024 15:30

Middle names for sure.
Baby's last name will be DH's last name (the same last name of his father and brother too).

So your husband is getting 3 out of 4 names already. You are carrying the baby and definitely have a say on baby's first name.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 20/04/2024 15:22

Wellhellooooodear · 20/04/2024 14:09

It's not in any way weird to name a child after a relative, dead or not. It's becomes their name FFS. People who name kids after celebrities, now that is weird.

But the celebrity name still becomes the child's name. When I was pregnant husband and I both liked the name Natalie. In my case because I admired Natalie Merchant and in his, the actress, Natalie Baye. It's a combination of a nice name which 2 strong, intelligent , talented women had. It's considerably less weird than picking a horrible name just because it's a dead relative's.

Baby was a boy. First name not after anyone and second my maternal, and still living at the time, grandfather

Spitalfieldrose · 20/04/2024 15:18

I’m also team middle names. My Dad was named after two Uncles who died in WW2. He’s never really felt the names were his name, just on loan from dead uncles.

It also didn’t help various family members would get upset when they saw him and then of course started talking about the dead uncles. So it just made him super uncomfortable whenever he saw family.

Cherrysoup · 20/04/2024 15:16

A family member has used the names of 3 people who died for her dc and I find it a bit odd. They’re not that person and deserve their own name. You can honour/remember people who were important by using their names as middle names. I’d hate to be named after someone who’d died.

blueshoes · 20/04/2024 15:14

No. Your feelings count too.

WaitingForMojo · 20/04/2024 15:09

KimberleyClark · 20/04/2024 09:27

YANBU if the names are Harold or Arthur. But if they are David or Peter, nothing wrong with those.

Other way round for me! I’d have no problem naming a child Arthur but over my dead body would I name them David!

Middle names is fair, op.

saraclara · 20/04/2024 15:02

MistyGreenAndBlue · 20/04/2024 09:00

No. Your son is not an "in memoriam" for dead relatives. I really hate when people do this. Give him his OWN name. I'd be standing firm on this one.
Even worse that you dislike the names but that isn't really the point.

That. I'm in my late 60s and still resent not having 'my own' name. I have three names and they were all chosen to 'honour' someone else.

Your baby is going to be his own person, and he deserves his own name. Brother and dad can be middle names.

ClairDeLaLune · 20/04/2024 14:49

It’s not fair to your baby. He’s a person in his own right, not a replacement for or tribute to a dead person. 2 middle names has got to be the way to go.

Mummyoflittledragon · 20/04/2024 14:46

MissUltraViolet · 20/04/2024 10:24

I feel really bad for your poor DH but no, don't do it.

Using them as middle names seems like a lovely way to honour them and you both get to decide on a first name you BOTH love. You are carrying this baby for 9 months and have to push it out, it would not be fair that his entire name has come from your husband, assuming surname will also be his. Let alone you not actually liking it at all!

Your son is his own individual, he sadly will never meet or know these people, he deserves a name just for him.

Interested to know what the names are though. I am imagining all sorts like Frank Stephen.

When the poster said about Frank, my thoughts turned to Frank Spencer.

But back to the op. No, it would be a heavy burden on your ds and very inconsiderate of his need to be an individual in his own right.

Hopingtobe4 · 20/04/2024 14:45

What are the names? Could they be a variation of them?

For example Tommy if the day was Thomas etc.

Here in Ireland sometimes people use the Irish version of the name to honour it but give the child their own identity. Don't know where you're but might be an option or the Welsh version or whatever?

Lovemusic82 · 20/04/2024 14:37

My dd has 2 middle names, one being her dads mums name, it’s an old fashioned name that’s not really used anymore so I wouldn’t want it as a first name. I think using the names as middle names is a good enough compromise especially if the names something like “Garry or Graham” 😬

VisitationRights · 20/04/2024 14:33

I actually think it is wrong to saddle a child with a first name in memoriam. Let the child have it’s own name with no history shackled to it.

A middle name (or double middle name) still honours them but is kinder to the child.

easylikeasundaymorn · 20/04/2024 14:26

Wellhellooooodear · 20/04/2024 14:09

It's not in any way weird to name a child after a relative, dead or not. It's becomes their name FFS. People who name kids after celebrities, now that is weird.

But the original poster, (@MistyGreenAndBlue ) DIDN'T say it was weird, just that they didn't like it - it was YOU that first brought weirdness into the conversation!

I agree with the majority - OP is carrying the child but he will have his grandfather's first name, uncle's middle name and father's surname, how is that fair?

Besides which, OP's family members will die at some point, if the DH thinks it's so important to name children after them why does his side get the 'honour' just because they died first?

If you said 'Okay fine but our next child we are naming
my grandmother's first name, my great aunt's middle name, my father's surname (i.e. your old surname if you've changed yours to his), what would he say?
(and the equivalent if your next dc was a boy).

ABwithAnItch · 20/04/2024 14:24

Elieza · 20/04/2024 09:07

I agree with the other posters, have as many middle names to honour the dead that you want, but the actual name you use daily has to be one you both like.

The dead are gone. This child isn't them he's his own person and deserves his own name.

Otherwise it'll be a life of comparison to how good their relatives were at x or y and how clever they were at calculating z etc.
Which your child may not live up to if his skills lie in other areas.
He needs his own life.

This. I’ll never understand the tradition of naming children after dead relatives they will never know. It feels like putting a burden on an innocent child.

FictionalCharacter · 20/04/2024 14:17

MistyGreenAndBlue · 20/04/2024 09:00

No. Your son is not an "in memoriam" for dead relatives. I really hate when people do this. Give him his OWN name. I'd be standing firm on this one.
Even worse that you dislike the names but that isn't really the point.

I completely agree. Your child is his own person, not some kind of echo of a dead relative.

80s · 20/04/2024 14:16

It's not in any way weird to name a child after a relative, dead or not.
I agree and am also suprised that people find it odd. Maybe times are changing? My son has his (living) grandad's middle name, which is also his (dead) great-grandad's first name, and one that's run in the family for several generations before that.

vetoing a meaningful name that would mean a lot to a grieving spouse just becuse you want an as yet to be decided but more instagrammable "modern" name is awful
Gosh, yes, that WOULD be awful. Fortunately that's not what OP is doing in any way or form :D

WhereYouLeftIt · 20/04/2024 14:15

I think your husband should be centring your son in his thoughts, not his brother and father.

How is his son going to feel about his names, once he is old enough to understand that his names are not his own, but 'belong' to other people?

Middle names only. Your son is entitled to be his own person, neither a tribute nor a shrine to the dead.

TonTonMacoute · 20/04/2024 14:15

MistyGreenAndBlue · 20/04/2024 09:00

No. Your son is not an "in memoriam" for dead relatives. I really hate when people do this. Give him his OWN name. I'd be standing firm on this one.
Even worse that you dislike the names but that isn't really the point.

This

Your new baby deserves his own name, that you both like and are happy with.

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