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I increasingly resent my in-laws!

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AmesandKe · 19/04/2024 21:35

I'll start with I know I can't do anything about this and I should be happy for them but it's hard.
DH and I have 2 kids, I work 28 hours a week, he works 40 hours. I'm on little above minimum wage, he makes £14 an hour. 2 years ago my parents were able to give us £10,000 we used this a deposit on a house. We are in Scotland so that was little less than 10%. We were in a council house before that, but the area was awful, we were planning to use MIL for childcare and our kids would have to share a small room, plus I don't like the idea of boy/girl siblings sharing.
Our house is fine, it's not modern at all, basic and tired but functional.

DSs sister lives in a council house. She struck gold and got a council house on a private development when she had her twins as that put her up to 3 kids and classed as overcrowded, it's beautiful the houses on the estate all sold for 220k for a 3 bed which is double what our house was! She works 14 hours a week, makes a little more an hour than I do. Her husband is a joiner for the council and makes 33k a year.
PIL are also in a council house.

Here's the issue, they seem to live a much better life than we do! They go on 3 holidays a year (yes usually it's haven and euro camp but still!), have a nice newish car on lease etc.
This is mainly as they still get UC, which covers their full rent and then some. Since we bought we no longer qualify for any UC and as such we also can't get the Scottish child payment!
To top it off, they have just installed a new kitchen and bathroom in the house, it was basic before, but still it was only 2 years old!!! I know her DH is a joiner and did all the fitting himself and his dad is a painter and decorated so helped. Now they are doing the same for PIL.
It's so frustrating, we thought we were doing the right thing buying but now we are worse off, work more, make less when benefits are added.

AIBU to be really resentful that they are able to do all this and we can't? It feels like the system is broken!

OP posts:
CandiceBloor · 21/04/2024 17:58

Thinking this way will only get you down. It’s natural and we all do it sometimes but you are not comparing like for like. You can never know all the details. We all make our own decisions in life the best we can with what we know at the time. It’s ok to have doubts with your decision to buy the house was for the best in retrospect but also perhaps look at it again - You like the area much better? Perhaps it does need a little doing up but that could be fun? This house you will own outright eventually, a council house will never be yours, you are always tenant. The advantages of this may not be immediately apparent but they can be huge. The way the UK is going politically, I think you made the right choice frankly.

The reality is that both of you sound like you have quite amazingly lucky positions - to even have the option of a council place suitable for a family is very rare these days. You certainly wouldn’t qualify where I live from the sounds of the finances. To have free childcare, a grandparent both able a willing, that is also incredibly lucky. To have healthy, happy children…. I could go on but you get the picture!

EverestMilton · 21/04/2024 08:16

So......you chose to have two kids with a partner who already had kids and a maintenance liability but assume he's the one and you wanted two kids. You bought a house with a gifted deposit, which is functional just not fancy because you wanted a house and a nicer area. You work a job you like with limited hours on minimum wage which you have no intention of changing so this is the career path you wanted. You live rurally where you are dependant on funding a car but you like the area so this is what you wanted.
So in short you have already got everything you wanted?? Your complaint is that your lifestyle isn't more flashy and you don't have more disposable income. But you chose that path, so no point comparing to others who made different choices.

GoldieLocks09 · 21/04/2024 07:07

You own your own home which you got financial support with, you get free childcare, and you work part time to be with your children - you’re very lucky.. I don’t really get why you’re so concerned with what other people are doing?

I’ve never had to think about going to the council which is fortunate despite not being handed anything (like a deposit for a house or free childcare) however I do think that the system is there for a reason - for people in need, yes it may be broken some of the time caused by people abusing it and maybe your in-law’s are doing well from it but I’m happy to pay tax to support people who genuinely need the help. You were in the fortunate position to not need council support or housing. You will have an asset that will rise in value giving you equity and you’ll pay off your mortgage..

If you want more money to do ‘fun’ things then get yourself out of debt, get your partner to have an equal share of his children and increase your hours at work.

AE9766 · 20/04/2024 23:30

So you chose to have two children with a man who earns £14 an hour when he's already paying £400 a month for two other children?

That's not your sister's fault; you've just made terrible life choices.

DodoTired · 20/04/2024 20:49

As I high earner who is paying for this party i find it incredibly annoying that your SIL is working only 14 hours and still gets benefits and a council house🙄
Its alright for some!
whereas I work 50-60 hours a week or more so that she can afford to work here and there.
ridiculous.

it is sad that you aspire not to earn more yourself (as in, sad that your employers only pay you not much and you can’t really expect them to pay you better) and instead you are essentially forced to envy someone on benefits.

EatCrow · 20/04/2024 16:07

AmesandKe · 19/04/2024 23:06

That doesn't necessarily make sense though, both SIL and her partner have qualifications but still use benefits?

Would you sleep better if they lost all their benefits suddenly? Would that stop the relentless obsession and resentment? You must realise it’s not a healthy way to spend your time. Please be careful your children don’t pick up on this, it’s a hard habit to break as you well know.

Dacadactyl · 20/04/2024 15:59

They'll have nothing to leave their kids, so I'd say you're more likely to be the winners long term.

GKD · 20/04/2024 15:58

How many cars do you have and can you downsize it?

How much is it + ins + tax + petrol per month?

Runnerinthenight · 20/04/2024 15:58

You knew about the £400 a month maintenance when you got together with this man and when you chose to buy a house with him. You got a massive leg-up from your parents to buy. If you want to improve your living standards, you need to do something about it. You could always go full-time at work. You could undertake some further education to improve your job prospects And don't say you can't because of your children - I did a MSc with 3 kids, youngest 10 months when I started, and not long back working FT after my maternity leave.

Don't let your jealousy consume you! It's not your IL's fault that you are with a man who has to pay for his kids from a previous relationship!

everydaywonderful · 20/04/2024 15:49

AmesandKe · 20/04/2024 15:47

We need a car, DH starts as early as 4 and can finish after midnight, he wouldn't be able to get to or from work. @everydaywonderful

How far away does he work? Could he use a bicycle instead?

AmesandKe · 20/04/2024 15:47

We need a car, DH starts as early as 4 and can finish after midnight, he wouldn't be able to get to or from work. @everydaywonderful

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Frangipanyoul8r · 20/04/2024 15:47

The £400 maintenance is a massive drip feed. You’re better off just being jealous of all women who got with men who didn’t already have children.

everydaywonderful · 20/04/2024 15:46

Noyesnoyes · 20/04/2024 15:35

So debt and £400 maintenance, that's your issue.

And a car, try doing without a car

Noyesnoyes · 20/04/2024 15:35

AmesandKe · 20/04/2024 14:21

Mortgage is £650, £400 on maintenance for DHs two older children, car payments, bus pass, debt etc.

So debt and £400 maintenance, that's your issue.

OneMoreTime23 · 20/04/2024 15:34

AmesandKe · 20/04/2024 14:21

Mortgage is £650, £400 on maintenance for DHs two older children, car payments, bus pass, debt etc.

Humongous drip feed.

Kitkat1523 · 20/04/2024 15:14

Do your in laws pay out £400 child maintenance …..that would be a nice holiday for you all each year….so you probs got more commitments then them

GKD · 20/04/2024 14:41

Presumably the in-laws aren’t paying £400pm on maintenance?

It sounds like their income is similar to yours but you made different choices in life and have more commitments.

Maybe downsize the car?

I assume your mortgage is over 5% interest then?

Maybe do a list of income/expenditure to see where you can cut costs or work £ better.

AmesandKe · 20/04/2024 14:25

AmesandKe · 20/04/2024 14:21

Mortgage is £650, £400 on maintenance for DHs two older children, car payments, bus pass, debt etc.

@GKD sorry this was in reply to you

OP posts:
AmesandKe · 20/04/2024 14:21

Mortgage is £650, £400 on maintenance for DHs two older children, car payments, bus pass, debt etc.

OP posts:
GKD · 20/04/2024 14:17

2.5k disposable.

what are you doing with your money OP?

that should be more than enough for an annual holiday and decent car.

Also, it’s not like your in-laws don’t work too!

GKD · 20/04/2024 14:13

springpromise · 20/04/2024 12:04

Your faux pearl clutching about benefits doesn’t wash with me because you’d be doing exactly the same if you were still in a council house. This boils down to nothing but pure jealousy because your SIL ended up with a nicer house than you (through circumstances that were were totally out of her control btw).

From what you’ve said about your earnings and child benefit, you and your husband must be bringing in about £3,500 a month, which isn’t a lot by London or SE standards but more than adequate up here especially if you live rurally with a £100,000 mortgage. There’s no reason you can’t do some work on your house or have a couple of holidays a year!

You have the work life balance you want, free childcare and your own home for which you were gifted the deposit. Most people would kill to be in this position but you’re so blinded by envy and bitterness you don’t realise how to lucky you are.

At 5% a 90k mortgage is around £500pm

Take another £500 for bills, and op is spending circa 2k on what exactly? Hardly the breadline.

you need to look at your spending.

nadine90 · 20/04/2024 13:43

AmesandKe · 19/04/2024 23:19

Honestly I'm surprised more people aren't outraged at in-laws situation.
The fact that they claim benefits while making over 40k between them, can holiday 3 times a year, including abroad, kids are always in nice clothes next/mayoral etc. have a newish 7 seater car etc.

Surely if you're on benefits you shouldn't be able to do all this?

Why should anyone be outraged at a working family having a comfortable home and a few nice things? I do not want anyone, on benefits or not, to struggle.
Im sorry that you are struggling at the moment. I’m a lot worse off than you are as a single parent renting privately! So I get that it’s hard when you see people getting by a bit more comfortably than you are and wishing you had what they have.
But we all need to be looking up at the rich and powerful people in charge who make life more difficult, instead of resenting people on low incomes who have council homes and top up benefits. They are not the enemy. They are doing their best and if you had the choice, you’d do the same things they are doing.

Crankyaboutfood · 20/04/2024 13:26

Timeforachocolate · 19/04/2024 21:56

But in 25 years or so you will own your house and never have to pay rent again.
when the twins are grown up your SIL will not get as much UC or the extra child payment and still have to pay rent for the rest of her life,

Yes. In the long term you are safer.

Xtraincome · 20/04/2024 13:20

AmesandKe · 19/04/2024 23:06

That doesn't necessarily make sense though, both SIL and her partner have qualifications but still use benefits?

Eh? I think you need to 100% decide who and what your anger is aimed at. Shout about it, then put it in a box in a furnace in your head and MOVE ON. How blessed you are to have childcare help too!

I am getting a lot of entitlement from you posts, OP. Although, you don't come across as unkind but fed up and lacking in self-worth. You may never be happy unless you start looking to change your situation in a way that makes you happy.

PodgePie · 20/04/2024 13:15

AmesandKe · 19/04/2024 23:04

@everydaywonderful how do I do that when I need to earn and have small children to care for?

Are there any training schemes at the supermarket where you work? You enjoy the job so why not try to earn more without too much change … as other posters have said, comparison is the thief of joy. Your sister in law may well be envious of your position as a home-owner. There are very few people in the world who genuinely have a ‘perfect life’, regardless of how it might seem from the outside.