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Or does this Labour Party meme display all we need to regarding about how they feel about women?

140 replies

Lion400 · 19/04/2024 19:59

Those silly little women. Apart from the ones with penises. They’re just like us men.

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GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 20/04/2024 00:44

Keeprejoining · 20/04/2024 00:28

The question we are asking is what is labour going to do about its misogyny problem. How is going to get our votes back?

Christ, Labour over Tories any day. I've always felt more comfortable under them.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 20/04/2024 00:43

AdultReindeer · 20/04/2024 00:09

So you'll vote for one that fucks women instead?

Metaphorically, physically or both?! 😁

Keeprejoining · 20/04/2024 00:28

The question we are asking is what is labour going to do about its misogyny problem. How is going to get our votes back?

AdultReindeer · 20/04/2024 00:09

Nubbled · 19/04/2024 23:13

I will never vote for a party who says
women can have a penis

So you'll vote for one that fucks women instead?

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 19/04/2024 23:47

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 19/04/2024 23:41

It’s funny - its a meme template that’s used a lot, and it’s a joke on that I think.

Just seen this comment before posting mine.
Yes it's a joke meme and I've seen it loads the past few weeks and this is just a play on it.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 19/04/2024 23:46

There's more to that (as usual) but I saw this earlier and it was in response to something.
As usual, half a story!
Will have to try and find

Keeprejoining · 19/04/2024 23:44

I know, those stupid women trying to hold labour to account for embedded misogyny. The thing is we expect labour to be better than this and to protect and vulnerable people.

ilovesooty · 19/04/2024 23:42

Sunquest · 19/04/2024 23:27

And how long before that thread will be over taken by the GC blaming every thing on the trans issue, Have you ever thought why people don't start those threads? Because it's a waste of time.

I agree. They all go the same way. I expect this thread will be no exception.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 19/04/2024 23:41

It’s funny - its a meme template that’s used a lot, and it’s a joke on that I think.

ilovesooty · 19/04/2024 23:38

Medschoolmum · 19/04/2024 23:17

I'm more worried about the Tory party's track record of shitting on women for 14 years than I am about one fairly crap Labour Party meme.

You don't seem to start quite so many threads about this, though, OP. Why is that? Do you think women are in a better position now than they were 14 years ago?

For all of the fearmongering about Labour, I'm yet to hear anyone tell me how the last 14 years have been better for women. Please do come and enlighten me.

Agreed but I think this meme reflects badly on Labour and I'm glad it's been deleted. It shouldn't have been posted in the first place.

ilovesooty · 19/04/2024 23:32

ghostyslovesheets · 19/04/2024 22:30

Nope-there absolutely is - because they chose this meme and changed the wording - it wasn't just an 'oppsy' retweet - so they DO need to acknowledge it's sexist and remove it - I say this as a life long member - we don't have to accept or defend everything because we are Team Labour - we are allowed to face palm at this backfire

I'm a member too and I agree with you.

Medschoolmum · 19/04/2024 23:31

NoWordForFluffy · 19/04/2024 23:25

Oh yes. Those concerned about Labour are Tory propagandists. 🙄 More lazy thinking being trotted out.

Not at all. It's entirely possible to have concerns about Labour without being a Tory propagandist. Frankly, I have some concerns about Labour myself.

But there is a small but very, very dedicated group of posters on MN who seem intent on promoting the idea that, if you are a feminist, you need to vote Tory. This is such an absurd and illogical position, based on the Tories' record in government, that I can only assume that these people are being paid to push that agenda by Tory HQ. I don't accept that any of them are stupid enough to actually believe it.

KTheGrey · 19/04/2024 23:30

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 19/04/2024 20:12

Meanwhile in the real world Rishi Sunak has today announced plans to strip GPs of the ability to sign people off work due to mental health crises. A policy that will disproportionately affect women.

Meh. Can't argue with the fact that there's a worryingly high number of people who cannot work for mh reasons.

Sunquest · 19/04/2024 23:27

NoWordForFluffy · 19/04/2024 23:22

Feel free to start your own thread to discuss issues you're concerned about.

And how long before that thread will be over taken by the GC blaming every thing on the trans issue, Have you ever thought why people don't start those threads? Because it's a waste of time.

NoWordForFluffy · 19/04/2024 23:25

Medschoolmum · 19/04/2024 23:24

Thanks, but I find it more important to provide some balance on the ones started by the Tory propagandists.

Oh yes. Those concerned about Labour are Tory propagandists. 🙄 More lazy thinking being trotted out.

Medschoolmum · 19/04/2024 23:24

NoWordForFluffy · 19/04/2024 23:22

Feel free to start your own thread to discuss issues you're concerned about.

Thanks, but I find it more important to provide some balance on the ones started by the Tory propagandists.

Totallymessed · 19/04/2024 23:23

Temporaryanonymity · 19/04/2024 21:27

To those saying it’s just the labour party’s way of appealing to a younger audience, then why are they posting it on Facebook? What young people use Facebook?

Well, quite. And 5 year old memes. It's a bit embarrassing really, very "dad dancing".

NoWordForFluffy · 19/04/2024 23:22

Medschoolmum · 19/04/2024 23:17

I'm more worried about the Tory party's track record of shitting on women for 14 years than I am about one fairly crap Labour Party meme.

You don't seem to start quite so many threads about this, though, OP. Why is that? Do you think women are in a better position now than they were 14 years ago?

For all of the fearmongering about Labour, I'm yet to hear anyone tell me how the last 14 years have been better for women. Please do come and enlighten me.

Feel free to start your own thread to discuss issues you're concerned about.

AspiringChatBot · 19/04/2024 23:21

The image of the man and his thoughts, indicating that he might find a home in UK Labour at the upcoming election, is absolutely fine. The addition of the woman saying something private and irrelevant to the election and juxtaposing it to the man's political comment is sexist and misogynist and (perhaps most importantly when we consider why it was published as part of a Labour election campaign - why someone and likely multiple someones at Labour HQ reviewed this and did not raise a concern) it's also gratuitous.

Medschoolmum · 19/04/2024 23:21

Sunquest · 19/04/2024 23:18

From what I read on MN you are a hive mind. An echo chamber with only one issue you give a fuck about.

That is not true.

I am very firmly gender critical and I believe that single sex spaces for women are important, but I would never vote on that one issue alone. And I don't think that the Tories give a shit about women in any case.

NoWordForFluffy · 19/04/2024 23:20

skippy67 · 19/04/2024 23:19

First of all, have you ever considered maybe calming down a bit? Secondly, I wasn't lecturing anyone. It's a discussion forum. So I'm discussing.

Calming down? I'm perfectly calm, thanks.

You're using lazy thinking. I'm discussing back saying it's lazy.

NoWordForFluffy · 19/04/2024 23:19

Sunquest · 19/04/2024 23:18

From what I read on MN you are a hive mind. An echo chamber with only one issue you give a fuck about.

You don't read much then.

skippy67 · 19/04/2024 23:19

NoWordForFluffy · 19/04/2024 23:07

Fucking hell. Here's the lazy thinking again that if we're not voting Labour we're going to vote Tory. Change the bloody record, will you? It's not either / or. We can choose to vote for neither of them.

And I'll count down to the vote scolding lecture about how not voting for Labour is essentially a vote for the Tories. Labour are not owed my vote. If they want it, they have to earn it. Do you lecture other people who choose to vote a different way over any other issue that's important to them?

First of all, have you ever considered maybe calming down a bit? Secondly, I wasn't lecturing anyone. It's a discussion forum. So I'm discussing.

Sunquest · 19/04/2024 23:18

NoWordForFluffy · 19/04/2024 23:14

'The GC'?! Gender critical women are not an homogeneous mass you know, or a hive mind. We're all individuals who probably disagree on as many things as we agree. It's best you don't say we all think and act the same.

Plus, it's women's sex-based rights we're fighting for. It's not a 'trans issue'. That minimises what's at stake. It's the usual ploy from those people on the left who don't want it talked about too much in case it actually does have an effect on people's votes.

From what I read on MN you are a hive mind. An echo chamber with only one issue you give a fuck about.

Medschoolmum · 19/04/2024 23:17

I'm more worried about the Tory party's track record of shitting on women for 14 years than I am about one fairly crap Labour Party meme.

You don't seem to start quite so many threads about this, though, OP. Why is that? Do you think women are in a better position now than they were 14 years ago?

For all of the fearmongering about Labour, I'm yet to hear anyone tell me how the last 14 years have been better for women. Please do come and enlighten me.