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planeetiquette · 19/04/2024 14:30

I recently flew into LA, the flight was jam packed and the overhead lockers filled up quickly so the flight attendants took bags off people and put them wherever they could find space in the lockers.

I was in an aisle seat, and had a connecting flight, so when the seatbelt sign went off I stood up like everyone else, got my carry on out of the overhead locker and waited to disembark.

That's when an American lady from the row in front of me turned to me and said she needed to get past me to get to her luggage and then bring it backto her place in the queue.

I said sorry, that's not going to work as the aisle is really narrow and filled with luggage right now, it'd be best if you sat down and waited until some people have disembarked so there's more space.

She got angry and said "Fine, if you don't move I'm going to BLOCK the aisle. We'll get the flight attendants involved"

It wasn't just her, there was also a group of men in front who needed their luggage from the back of the plane as well and they backed her up (!)

After such a long flight I was over it, and said in my most calm but firm voice:

"Guys, waiting is a fact of life, you're just going to have to sit and wait.

"Your luggage is down the back of the plane. I'm sorry but that's not my fault. This is a very narrow space and I don't know what you want me to do."

In the end the flight attendants never got involved, as someone behind me passed luggage over my head to the lady and the men.

At the time I thought I was in the right (I fly a lot for work). But the more I think about it, is that just how they do it in the US? If you're "ahead" in the rows, you retain the right to get off first even if you're not prepared? If that's the case, I understand why she was angry.

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Noyesnoyes · 22/04/2024 10:24

@planeetiquette what on earth are you going on about? I've not changed my name?

You're being totally ridiculous, and making yourself look foolish!

If you are saying this because you asked a question to someone else about the voting, you do realise that in the app you can't quote a second remark, so therefore I answered the question you've asked someone else without quoting?

You really are a very silly billy!

I'm trolling, myself and the other person you questioned are sock puppeting.

Or maybe we both (and at least 40% of website users), think you're wrong.

I'm not sure AIBU is the place for you!

planeetiquette · 22/04/2024 10:01

Noyesnoyes · 22/04/2024 09:59

@planeetiquette because people on the app cannot vote? So the vote is only reflective of people that are using the website.

Name change fail my friend. Or you're fixated on this thread?

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Noyesnoyes · 22/04/2024 09:59

@planeetiquette because people on the app cannot vote? So the vote is only reflective of people that are using the website.

planeetiquette · 22/04/2024 09:56

Mydietstartstomorrow · 22/04/2024 08:37

And 90% of the people commenting said you were being unreasonable but still you stand on that hill!

So polls are invalid? Could you elaborate?

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Mydietstartstomorrow · 22/04/2024 08:37

planeetiquette · 21/04/2024 15:12

60% have voted YANBU.

And no I didn’t book it, work did.

And 90% of the people commenting said you were being unreasonable but still you stand on that hill!

planeetiquette · 21/04/2024 15:12

Mydietstartstomorrow · 21/04/2024 11:50

You had right of way?! 😂 you asked if you were ridiculous and have been told you were. Can’t bear people that jump up as soon as that light goes on. Don’t book such a tight connecting flight then! Yes you were rude

60% have voted YANBU.

And no I didn’t book it, work did.

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Mydietstartstomorrow · 21/04/2024 11:50

planeetiquette · 19/04/2024 14:52

See my other post, my luggage would still have been blocking the aisle.

I don't believe it was mean, because I believed at the time I had right of way. I was in the queue first and had my luggage ready to go.

You had right of way?! 😂 you asked if you were ridiculous and have been told you were. Can’t bear people that jump up as soon as that light goes on. Don’t book such a tight connecting flight then! Yes you were rude

Mercurial123 · 21/04/2024 09:59

*Then those who do this are the first to board the terminal - plane bus (so to get one of the dozen seats) which means that they will be one of the last to leave it.

As mentioned in a pp - one of these idiots did this on my flight. I had Muttley’s snigger in my head when I turned around and saw him about 70 people behind me!*

In my experience, the best spot is at the front of the bus, standing up opposite the side of the driver by the door. You will get off the bus first in most cases.

CrispieCake · 21/04/2024 09:16

Totally beside the point of this thread but I like to remain in my seat reading until every other passenger has disembarked and then stroll off the plane in a leisurely fashion. My husband likes to leap into the aisles as soon as the seatbelt sign is off and accounts it a personal failure if he is not amongst the first 10 passengers off the plane.

It is actually a real source of friction in our marriage especially since having DC. Once he apparently "forgot" that we had two small children with us (baby and pre school child) and leapt into the aisle, retrieved his case and out the door without waiting for us. I was left to struggle with the baby in a sling, the travel buggy, the baby bag, older child, older child's bag and my own bag. We just sat and waited until the plane was empty and then a lovely retired couple who were also waiting helped us off. I think they thought I was a single parent, but I took great pleasure in disabusing them of that notion when we eventually caught up with a red-faced DH waiting for us. I thanked them very politely and then let rip. Older child was none too pleased with daddy either and wasn't quiet about it.

Eastcoastie · 21/04/2024 08:33

Its a total pain when your case ends up half way down the plane. I think Y were completely U blocking her trying to get it quickly. What if she had a connection too? Although everyone stands up. Iv always found the etiquette to be if you are in a row infront of people coming down the isle then you can shove out infront of them. If you have been unlucky to have your case shunted half way down the plane then i think its fair fellow passengers should do what they could to help get it up to you or allow you to pass by. Id have sat quietly but next time im going to get up and stand my ground like that lady.

NeverEnoughPants · 21/04/2024 07:35

What an odd thing to get worked up about.

Surely if you had let her go behind you too get her stuff, you could have taken her place, not allowed her back in front, and got off the plane faster?

Auburngal · 21/04/2024 07:35

VestibuleVirgin · 21/04/2024 07:03

Anyone who stands up on a plane as soon as it stops is just pathetic. No point even attempting to get your stuff until the steps/whatever have arrived and the doors opened, otherwise, you stand around in aisle and people barge past trying to get to their case.
People have no idea how to behave; they want to be first off, first to baggage reclaim, etc.
Ignorant behaviour abounds on flights. Especially package holiday ones

Then those who do this are the first to board the terminal - plane bus (so to get one of the dozen seats) which means that they will be one of the last to leave it.

As mentioned in a pp - one of these idiots did this on my flight. I had Muttley’s snigger in my head when I turned around and saw him about 70 people behind me!

dontbelievewhatyousee · 21/04/2024 07:09

I have definitely moved in with my hand luggage to let someone get theirs against the flow before back when I had to fly economy or when the plane was small and had no choice for seating.

OP I think not doing so shows quite low empathy, your choice but that’s what I would perceive if I saw someone declining.

notimagain · 21/04/2024 07:03

@Onthehuntstill

Airlines should let passengers with a connection off first.

For info back when I was working on Longhaul flights into/out of a couple of the London airports we’d routinely have something like 30% of passengers (so sometimes 100 plus in numbers per flight ) connecting onwards with us or a code-share partner.

It could be a similar percentage on the same company’s shorthaul services so selectively trying to let all connecting pax off ahead of all the non connectors wasn’t really practical.

We did however know if connections were running tight due to delays (there was actually a department at base that kept an eye on all this) and if possible tried to expedite the disembarkation of those who really were at risk at missing the onwards flight.

VestibuleVirgin · 21/04/2024 07:03

Anyone who stands up on a plane as soon as it stops is just pathetic. No point even attempting to get your stuff until the steps/whatever have arrived and the doors opened, otherwise, you stand around in aisle and people barge past trying to get to their case.
People have no idea how to behave; they want to be first off, first to baggage reclaim, etc.
Ignorant behaviour abounds on flights. Especially package holiday ones

VestibuleVirgin · 21/04/2024 06:59

Weighnow · 19/04/2024 14:46

Come on, connecting flights aren't so tight that the last person off the plane would miss it.

How the fuck do you know? Are you in charge of plane timetables across the world?
What a silly thing to say

Noyesnoyes · 21/04/2024 06:39

I think OP has disembarked this thread!

ClemenceD · 21/04/2024 06:26

I'm American and in that situation it's usual to allow the person whose bags are way in the back to go past you back to where their bags are. But it would not have been normal for that woman to then push her way all the way back to her seat with her bags. Once she went to the back she should have exited with the people in the back.
I am one of those people who pops up as soon as I can and gets my bag from the bin, but I then get back in my seat with my bag out of people's way until just before my row gets to exit.

Onthehuntstill · 20/04/2024 23:55

The people commenting on connecting flights clearly have not done them or have been lucky. The only two times we have had a connecting flight, we've ended up close to missing it. One time we and others were literally running through the airport. So yes I'd want to get off ASAP if I had another flight to get. Airlines should let passengers with a connection off first.

Amy1117 · 20/04/2024 22:48

planeetiquette · 19/04/2024 14:52

See my other post, my luggage would still have been blocking the aisle.

I don't believe it was mean, because I believed at the time I had right of way. I was in the queue first and had my luggage ready to go.

What if the lady in front of you also had a connecting flight? Should she miss it because her luggage happened to be at the back of the aircraft and you have "right of way" ? I think you were unreasonable

OnHerSolidFoundations · 20/04/2024 22:17

JennyBeanR · 19/04/2024 14:42

YABU, you caused unnecessary grief by not allowing her to get her luggage. Why is it ok for you to grab yours and stand in the aisle blocking the way?

Where is she supposed to go?

OnHerSolidFoundations · 20/04/2024 22:17

Whateveer · 19/04/2024 14:37

If people like you hadn't blocked the aisle there would be no problem in people grabbing their luggage.

But why shouldn't the op grab her luggage? How is she supposed to know where everyone's luggage is?
I'm with you op. They were being dicks.

Majesticalling · 20/04/2024 22:03

Sorry OP I think you're a little bit unreasonable here - but to be fair long haul economy flights make the most reasonable people VVU!!!

I reckon you could have squeezed back into your spot with your carry on luggage BUT,.really, cabin crew should have sorted the luggage for the lady and other people after the plane had landed.

I can 100% understand your anxiety about making your connection, though. LAX is a flippin nightmare isn't it?!?! Immigration (even in transit) takes ages and the airport itself is like the twilight zone. Shuddering thinking about it!

AndOnAndOnItGoes · 20/04/2024 22:01

notimagain · 20/04/2024 21:13

TBH most flights I’ve been a passenger on over the years that’s pretty much what I’ve seen happen almost automatically….it’s usually reasonably orderly….

Yes there’s a bit of a faff if timings have resulted in tight connections and/or bags have gone been separated from owners but most people seem to be able to cope without any drama, many using the technique described by @Anxiouslump.

You're lucky, I've not seen anywhere near such good manners on a flight!

Bubblesoffun · 20/04/2024 21:35

I think everyone is missing the most crucial piece of information. The person in question was “an American lady” which automatically means rude, bad and wrong. yes you were unreasonable and entitled.